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Eastern Front / Re: What is the code designation who got IS-3 first?
« on: August 27, 2011, 04:15:21 AM »
I found something more:
The Osprey published 《IS-2 Heavy Tank 1944-73》,page 15,the note said "Although it has long been claimed that IS-3 saw combat in the Berlin campaogn,recently declassified Russian accounts dispute this."
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From battlefield.ru I fond the code designation IS-3 tank regiment, 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment,
This document, page 28, show me its 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, under 2nd Guards Tank Army command
http://www.google.com.hk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=33&ved=0CCkQFjACOB4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternatehistory.com%2Fdiscussion%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D132947%26d%3D1299433745&rct=j&q=71th%20Independent%20Guard%20Heavy%20Tank%20Regiment%20IS-3&ei=EsxWToLqNq73mAXA3cihDA&usg=AFQjCNFsvub75MVMf6ipYes_BdEPRZvJUQ&cad=rjt
Then from the Soviet order in Berlin Battle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_order_of_battle_for_Battle_in_Berlin
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/battles_berlin.html#app1
I found 2nd Guards Tank Army, but no 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, only the 79th GHT Reg.,so now I think I can confirm this.
The Osprey published 《IS-2 Heavy Tank 1944-73》,page 15,the note said "Although it has long been claimed that IS-3 saw combat in the Berlin campaogn,recently declassified Russian accounts dispute this."
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It is a subject that has been discussed more than once, but without any conclusive evidence. They did not see combat in the European theatre, but they where according to some "deployed" at the victory-parade in Berlin.
You would think, as I do, that the Soviet Union would take the opportunity to battle-test them in Manchuria, but I've never found any evidence, one way or another. So if anybody can come up with any conclusive information, I, too, would be happy.
From battlefield.ru I fond the code designation IS-3 tank regiment, 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment,
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On September 7, 1945, a united Allied military parade was held in Berlin. The parade began with infantry columns: Soviet soldiers of the 9th Rifle Corps of the 5th Shock Army, then soldiers of the French 2nd Infantry Division, Alpine troops, and Zoaves. There was a brilliant display by the British 131st Infantry Brigade. Paratroopers of the US 82nd Airborne Division brought up the rear. After a short break, a continuous mechanized column started.
The first vehicles were 32 M24 «General Chaffe» tanks and sixteen M8 APC's from the US 705th Armored Battalion, and then tanks and armored cars from the French 1st Tank Division. After that, 24 «Comet» tanks and 30 armored cars from the British 7th Armored Division. And after that... rolled 52 of the newest JS-3's! That was a complete shock for all the Allies! A combined regiment of JS-3's was formed, based on the 71st Guards Heavy Tank Regiment (this unit is remembered as having fought with first King Tigers on the Eastern Front).
This document, page 28, show me its 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, under 2nd Guards Tank Army command
http://www.google.com.hk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=33&ved=0CCkQFjACOB4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternatehistory.com%2Fdiscussion%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D132947%26d%3D1299433745&rct=j&q=71th%20Independent%20Guard%20Heavy%20Tank%20Regiment%20IS-3&ei=EsxWToLqNq73mAXA3cihDA&usg=AFQjCNFsvub75MVMf6ipYes_BdEPRZvJUQ&cad=rjt
Then from the Soviet order in Berlin Battle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_order_of_battle_for_Battle_in_Berlin
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/battles_berlin.html#app1
I found 2nd Guards Tank Army, but no 71th Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, only the 79th GHT Reg.,so now I think I can confirm this.