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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Loupblanc on December 02, 2009, 10:49:20 PM

Title: Famous last words
Post by: Loupblanc on December 02, 2009, 10:49:20 PM

 Meh. Read on.

 Some say Joseph Stalin was fearful of war with Germany or just did not expect Germany to start a two-front war, and was reluctant to do anything to provoke Hitler. Others say that Stalin was eager for Germany to be at war with other capitalist countries. Another viewpoint is that Stalin expected war in 1942 (the time when all his preparations would be complete) and stubbornly refused to believe its early arrival.[15]
British historians Alan S. Milward and W. Medlicott show that Nazi Germany—unlike Imperial Germany—was prepared for only a short-term war (Blitzkrieg).[16] According to Edward Ericson, although Germany's own resources were sufficient for 1940 victories in the West, massive Soviet shipments obtained during a short period of Nazi-Soviet economic collaboration were critical for Germany to launch Operation Barbarossa.[17]
Even though Germany had been assembling very large numbers of troops in eastern Poland and making repeated reconnaissance flights over the border, Stalin ignored the warnings of his own as well as foreign intelligence. Moreover, on the very night of the invasion, Soviet troops received a directive undersigned by Marshal Semyon Timoshenko and General of the Army Georgy Zhukov that ordered (as demanded by Stalin): "do not answer to any provocations" and "do not undertake any actions without specific orders". The German invasion therefore caught the Soviet military and leadership largely by surprise, even though Stalin did receive a message from his intelligence detailing information on the attack.
For Soviet preparations, see Operation Barbarossa: Soviet preparations.
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: Voop_Bakon on December 02, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
What and why did you copy paste and put here?
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: Loupblanc on December 02, 2009, 11:51:32 PM

 Moreover, on the very night of the invasion, Soviet troops received a directive undersigned by Marshal Semyon Timoshenko and General of the Army Georgy Zhukov that ordered (as demanded by Stalin): "do not answer to any provocations" and "do not undertake any actions without specific orders".

 Famous last words. I was reading this, and went... duh.
 
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: bastex on December 04, 2009, 12:02:25 AM
the russians have just 1 tacktic: scrotched eurth they retreat retreat retreat (and burn everything ore take it whit em no supplies for the germans =] ) until the enemies line is to thin and then hit it whit the russian fist
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: ford_prefect on December 04, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
the russians have just 1 tacktic: scrotched eurth they retreat retreat retreat (and burn everything ore take it whit em no supplies for the germans =] ) until the enemies line is to thin and then hit it whit the russian fist
right............you also have to think politically you know. They weren't like France in Algeria 
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: Loupblanc on December 05, 2009, 04:45:20 AM

 I was talking about Stalin's order not to fight back as the
 Germans wiped out 80% of the Soviet army in the first week...
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: ford_prefect on December 05, 2009, 05:25:22 AM

 I was talking about Stalin's order not to fight back as the
 Germans wiped out 80% of the Soviet army in the first week...
I was talking to bastex his theory of Russian "simplicity" in war didn't go that far
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: Loupblanc on December 05, 2009, 06:05:13 AM

 Oh, yea. Overly simplistic isn't fun :p
 Boring, yes?
Title: Re: Famous last words
Post by: Crezth on December 15, 2009, 01:04:14 PM

 I was talking about Stalin's order not to fight back as the
 Germans wiped out 80% of the Soviet army in the first week...

It's because Stalin thought it was a rogue general and he didn't want to piss off his (at the time) best buddy Hitler.