Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Red Army Suggestions => Topic started by: Toorstain on January 21, 2010, 11:06:57 PM

Title: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Toorstain on January 21, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
I think the Red banner strelky is kinda too much. You should consider making a choice between smgs and lmgs. They just weren't that cool with all that firepower, You know, they should still be riflemen. But that is my opinion. ;D
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: WartyX on January 21, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
Just drive a halftrack into them, or use an MG. They won't be much at all, then.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: South3rs on January 21, 2010, 11:47:03 PM
Agreed, could you change this slightly. Or have 2 ppsh or 1 LMG but not both, and the rest rifles.

And can you make the banner slighly bigger and cooler, it seems abit flat, and non wavy, it would just look awesome. The banner should dominate the battelfield, put fear in the enemy when they see that banner, it would just be cool if it actually waved more and was bigger, maybe with a more detailed ragged and war torn look :p

They should get a commisar asell, like conscripts do, just for astetics really. I mean all sqauds have a leader, and i know theres is a seargent probably, but could this be shown :p

Remember when in enemy at the gates they charge, and theres lots of different size flags, and they wave :P

but other than that, strelky are solid, and kl.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Someone on January 22, 2010, 06:30:17 AM
How does the Red banner not put fear in the enemy? It just screams "I'M COMING YOUR WAY WITH DP28S AND PPSHS MOTHER F***ER."

Also, I think a waving banner would need to be animated and well, let's face it, it's not something too far up the list of things to do.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Shadowmetroid on January 22, 2010, 09:48:14 AM
No. I payed 200 munis for pa-pa-shas, dps, and a glorious Red flag. And I'm gonna get 'em.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: South3rs on January 22, 2010, 10:00:36 PM
yer, just slightly bigger though??? thats surely quite simple, i just found it was very small, like not even the size of the flag carrier :/ oo well
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Shadowmetroid on January 23, 2010, 03:14:52 AM
It wouldn't hurt if the Red Flag was bigger, but that would mean more work for the team. Think about the new model and anims. They are busy enough with the Ostheer as it is, so I'm willing to wait for it, If it is going to come.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: stufu on January 23, 2010, 01:15:11 PM
agree maybe u wanna add one more drummer?  ::) ;D :D


i understand this mod in traditions "enemy at the gates" movie !
 i mean red flag bearers and conscripts with half men without rifles (((((( and very big squads numbers cause
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Artillerist on January 23, 2010, 02:15:13 PM
(http://www.battlefield.ru/images/phocagallery/articles/enemy/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_005.jpg)
Quote
Annaud hads a hard opinion about Soviet officers: all of them are equipped with a Red Banner and a megaphone!
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: stufu on January 23, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
and what? every battalion has its own battalion flag (standard) but they not fighting with it like this troops in the mod! =)
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: szaman on January 24, 2010, 12:45:04 AM
So?

That's the reason why playing with them brings so much fun!

Some stats needs to be fixed, but in general this mod is superb!

Stop complaining -> start to play and give some more constructive tips.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Shadowmetroid on January 24, 2010, 06:26:59 AM
and what? every battalion has its own battalion flag (standard) but they not fighting with it like this troops in the mod! =)

Company of Heroes is not a realism rts. This mod is meant to be an addon mod to the Company of Heroes game. If you want a realism rts, go get Men of War. Or you can download N44 mod.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: stufu on January 24, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
u misunderstanding me , i know this not realism mod.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Artillerist on January 24, 2010, 10:16:43 PM
Generally, it is only in Annaud film soviet soldiers are all surrounded with red banners :)

An really, every regiment (not batallion) had only 1 Banner, wich was a holy relic to soldiers of its regiment, and was always places an a Staff of regiment (not with frontline squads). If it would lost or captured by enemy - regiment would be disbanded and ashamed.

(http://www.amyat.narod.ru/bio/chechneva_mp2/20.jpg)
(http://www.ozerny.ru/pages/photo/rockets/007b.jpg)

Also, You see th original style and size of Banner. "Ingame" Red Banner is a copy from "EatG" film, wich is totally incorrect.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Capt. Malashenko on January 25, 2010, 05:01:37 AM
I think the Red banner strelky is kinda too much. You should consider making a choice between smgs and lmgs. They just weren't that cool with all that firepower, You know, they should still be riflemen.

Hmm, NOO! They are the only damn Soviet infantry that can stand their ground,  and are not OP at all. Live them alone or NKVD will get your name ... or nick
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Toorstain on January 25, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
I don't think that they are OP, but just that strelkys look cooler with rifles than SMGs ;D. And why change their main rifleman unit into close combat units when you can make ingenerys become sturmovie and awesome in CQC. :-\ I love the red banner, but I feel that you just don't have LMG AND SMGs. Maybe a choise between thees two. Free, of course.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Capt. Malashenko on January 25, 2010, 04:29:18 PM
Don`t upgrade them then ;D
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Artillerist on January 25, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
(http://www.euroflag.ru/img_r/2005-11-2-1-02.gif)
Quote
Знамя части представляло собой квадратное полотнище с изображением на лицевой стороне золотых серпа и молота и надписи: "За нашу советскую Родину!", а на оборотной стороне изображение красной звезды с золотой лучистой каймой и названием части.

В Красной Армии в 1941 году была создана Гвардия - почётное наименование отборных, проявивших особый героизм войсковых частей.

Знамя гвардейской части имело на лицевой стороне портрет Ленина, девиз "За нашу советскую Родину" и "СССР".
Размер Знамени: 145 см х 115 см.
Оно украшено золотой бахромой.
Древко имеет длину 250 см и диаметр 4 см.
Знамя снабжалось двумя кистями на витых шнурах (в каждой конкретной части к древку прикрепляли орденские ленты, а к полотнищу знаки орденов).

На обороте размещалась малая красная звезда с серпом и молотом в середине, название и номер части и девиз (например, "Смерть немецким оккупантам!").

Quote
Banner is a square of cloth with the image on the front side of the gold hammer and sickle and inscription: "For Our Soviet Motherland!", and on the reverse side of the image of a red star with a gold radiant border and the title part.

In the Red Army in 1941, was created Guards -- honorary title selected, with special heroism troops.

Banner Guards unit was on the obverse portrait Lenin's motto "For Our Soviet Motherland" and "USSR". Banner

Size: 145 cm x 115 cm. It is decorated with gold fringe.

Wooden flagstuff has a length of 250 cm and a diameter of 4 cm.

Banner supplied with two tassels on the twisted cords (each specific part of the shaft attached to the medal ribbons, and to the flag signs of orders).

On the back was placed a small red star with sickle and
hammer in the middle, the name and part number and the slogan (eg, "Death to the German invaders!").
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Jozz on January 26, 2010, 11:24:47 PM

I would prefer the flag moved to the major, maybe with an upgrade that would allow them to be upgraded with better weaponry aswell as some sort of bonus, like a reduction in ability timers or let them throw a grenade, then replace the red banner strelky upgrade with this and have strelky get some weaponry with the upgrade /or by default.

I would name the upgrade to be something like "Guards status title" or some guards medal name  (Heroes of our Soviet Motherland???) which then means you get the guards flag and priorities in weaponry and supplies.

 :)
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Artillerist on January 27, 2010, 12:03:35 AM
Also, I would suggest to exchange two abilityes:

-"Za Rodinu!" - attack rush of Command Squad
-"Red Banner rush"  of Strelki.

Logically, there must be only 1 Red Banner per player, wich supposed to be a Banner of Company. And it is more really and logically to give that "man with banner" to Command squad (wich supposed to be "curfew platoon" - "Banner Guard Platoon").

And with Strelki - instead of "man with banner" after upgrade, Officer could be added, with ability "Za Rodinu" - "attack rush".

It need just exchange those two abilityes.

Strelky (upgraded) will have their own officer (may be Warrant officer - "Veteran of front"), and ability "Attack rush"

Major with his Command Squad will have Red Banner of Company at the begin (and actual task to save it and take care of it :) ), and ability "Red Banner rush".

Would be again - more logical.
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Soul.j on January 29, 2010, 12:12:09 PM
I was born in a communist country and all the movies I see all soldiers respect more then any thing will be s red banner . If the banner is fallen. Some one else takes his place. So cammabder squard should have a red banner
Title: Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"
Post by: Toorstain on January 31, 2010, 12:06:37 AM
Well it looks like they fixed the strelkys (WOOHOO! ;D). I guess you moderators can lock this topic or something and the banner-guys can start their own topic.