Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Topic started by: Roland on February 02, 2010, 06:22:44 AM

Title: Snipers
Post by: Roland on February 02, 2010, 06:22:44 AM
Snipers, especially the Ruskies, are entirely too powerful.  They have far too much influence on a battle in too small a time.  They somehow need to be reduced in effectiveness.  Maybe just make them more expensive.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: thebomb on February 02, 2010, 06:25:14 AM
Can you give a specific example? Your post doesn't give your readers a lot to work with.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Roland on February 02, 2010, 06:29:29 AM
They simply kill off entire units much too quickly.  Especially with the Russian ai building them so fast.  Their effects are far too devastating in the game.  They in no way reflect anything close to the stealthy, time consuming methods of real snipers.  Anyway, in general, they should be reigned in in the game.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Loupblanc on February 02, 2010, 06:35:35 AM

 Which patch you talking about?
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: WhiteFlash on February 02, 2010, 06:54:12 AM
wow, first of all, your playing comps...they get more resources than people do so that throws everything your saying about cost into the trash.

The snipers cost in 1.04 is good, it might even need to be lowered just a little bit because of its inability to cloak, but its way to early to tell.

People need to stop posting their opinions based off playing games against comps.  Its very uninformative.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Loupblanc on February 02, 2010, 07:04:11 AM

 I play soviet vs expert Wehr/PE AI.
 I always lose.
 Conclusions : Axis players cheat.
 Solution : Prevent players from playing Axis. Yup

 Going to bed now... :)
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Roland on February 03, 2010, 06:31:24 AM
I am truly amazed by the utter nonsense in all these posts.  Unbelievable. 
Patch?? huh?
Like playing ai is illegitimate?
Give example?  the question is self defining.
Wow, what imbeciles.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Cartoon Boy on February 03, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
I am truly amazed by the utter nonsense in all these posts.  Unbelievable. 
Patch?? huh?
Like playing AI is illegitimate?
Give example?  the question is self defining.
Wow, what imbeciles.

Hello Mr pot, have you met Mr Kettle?

Just kidding, but seriously snipers aren't cheap and get owned by anything with 4 or more guy in the squad if not properly supported.
Close ground with the sniper and keep your guys with him until he eventually dies.
Sure sniper's controlled by a comp can be a little op because they're micro intense but it doesn't matter for the comp because he can micro 10,000 things at the same time. But snipers are really weak if you just rush them.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: BurroDiablo on February 03, 2010, 01:13:12 PM
I am truly amazed by the utter nonsense in all these posts.  Unbelievable. 

Possibly in response to an utter nonsense opinion?

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Patch?? huh?

You don't know what a Patch is? Or you didn't know we had patches out? It's very hard to understand your balance 'issue' if you have a different mod version to everybody else. Current patch has the Sniper build time brought up to that of a Wehr Sniper.

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Like playing ai is illegitimate?

AI can easily control multiple units at once, resource cheats and doesn't complain about balance.

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Give example?  the question is self defining

Give people a situation to work with, when did you discover the Soviet sniper needed 'Reigned in'? It could be that your just not countering them properly.

Also, what you gave was an Opinion, not a Question.

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Wow, what imbeciles.

Getting angry at people who simply disagree with your opinion makes you less of one?

...

I would suggest you go and make sure you have the latest version before you complain about balance.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Tarkka-ampuja on February 03, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
I agree with Diablo.. Go sit in the naughty corner and think about what you've done..

And Snipers, FYI, are meant to change the tide of battles, "imbecile".

They are also fragile, anyone can beat Snipers which is why no one complains about them, well, anyone except from you apparently.
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Ghost on February 03, 2010, 07:42:05 PM

 I play soviet vs expert Wehr/PE AI.
 I always lose.
 Conclusions : Axis players cheat.
 Solution : Prevent players from playing Axis. Yup

 Going to bed now... :)
;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Roland on February 04, 2010, 03:53:17 AM
OK, I'm in the naughty corner.
But, still, the AI snipes are all powerful, especially if you're defending and can't attack by closing proximity.  I suppose I just need to play more, but the ruskie ai seems a bit much.  Is there some basic difference between it and the original game ai?
Title: Re: Snipers
Post by: Tarkka-ampuja on February 04, 2010, 05:39:29 AM
The enemy Sniper's are just as powerful as yours... And equally fragile... : )