Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Ghost on March 22, 2010, 11:26:09 PM
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[last update: 16.05.2011]
This is a list of the major balance topics.
Before you start a new topic please make sure the issue isn't already being discussed. And please name topics like this:
[Version of Eastern Front] "Issue to discuss"
If you want your topic being added to the list, just reply and I'll add it.
CoH:EF Stats thread 1.03 (partially) WIP[Unofficial]
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2295.0)
[1.3.1.0]:
Infantry
Conscripts
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5673.0)
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5862.0)
Soviet Abilities
IL-2
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5840.0)
Sniperteam Artillery Strike
Thread locked (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5827.0)
General Suggestions
Various
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5790.0)
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5734.0)
Red Army & CW combination
Link (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5845.0)
[1.2] - [1.3.0.2]:
Infantry suggestions
Sharpshooter team
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4299.0)
PTRD Tankhunters
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4329.0)
Vehicle suggestions
ISU-152
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4840.0)
Katyusha
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4321.0)
Zis-2 AT Gun
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4356.0)
T-34/85
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5249.0)
Ability suggestions
IL-2 Sturmovik
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4387.0)
Building suggestions
Upgrade suggestions
Tweaks, general suggestions
Defensive Game
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4980.0)
Non Soviet abilities / units
AI issues
Map balance
Re-balancing
General
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3995.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4135.0)
Wehrmacht
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4142.0)
Brits
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4162.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4357.0)
Panzer Elite
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4130.0)
Americans
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4148.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=4142.0)
[1.10] - [1.11]:
Infantry suggestions
Infantry
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3896.0)
Conscripts
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3492.0)
Strelky
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3516.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3589.0)
Mortars
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3597.0)
Sniper Team
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3617.0)
Tankhunters
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3617.0)
Vehicle suggestions
Lend/Lease Sherman
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3506.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3589.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3663.0)
AT guns
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3600.0)
Building suggestions
Outpost
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3599.0)
Ability suggestions
Command Squad -> artillery barrage
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3598.0)
"God of War" ability
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3646.0)
Upgrade suggestions
Tweaks, general suggestions
Limit on units
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3678.0)
Various Suggestions
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3705.0)
Non Soviet abilities / units
Kangaroo
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3995.0)
AI issues
Katyusha spamming
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3802.0)
Map balance
[1.04]:
Infantry suggestions
Mortars
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2689.0)
Sharpshooter Team
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2633.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2614.0)
Command Squad
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2752.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
Strelky
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
Conscripts
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2809.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2752.0)
Ingenery
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3167.0)
Tankbusters
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3167.0)
Vehicle suggestions
Katyushas
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3146.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3167.0)
T34
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2323.0)
T90
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
SU 85/100
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3349.0)
IS-2
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
Tanks
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2845.0)
Building suggestions
MG Dugout
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2932.0)
Firebases
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3167.0)
Ability suggestions
IL-2
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3032.0)
"Recover wrecks" ability
the problem doesn't exist anymore since the ability is no longer part of the doctrine (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2677.15)
"God of War" ability
Topic locked (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3278.0)
Upgrade suggestions
Upgrades
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3186.0)
Tweaks, general suggestions
Tier system suggestions
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2436.0)
General tweaks
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2744.0)
Ammo management
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2644.0)
Strategy suggestions / problems
Soviet rushing/spamming
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3156.0)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3117.0)
Non Soviet abilities / units
German "Force retreat" / "Propaganda War" abilities
according to dragon93 the problem is solved (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3049.0)
PE Fallschirmjäger vs. Soviets
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2790.0)
Limits to non soviet call-ins
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2682.0)
AI issues
AI resource "cheats"
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3153.0)
Map balance
Prokhorovka (6)
outdated (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2678.0)
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this is stick worthey
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this is stick worthey
+1
Nice Work
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We sould ketp this toic in the top of the page, so here it goes befor it goes to pag 2 and none reads it.
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Thanks for this, will sticky.
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Update
The Wehrmacht Terror Propaganda doctrine ability is now working properly against the Russians - forcing a retreat.[...]
one less problem
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can we have a source for this? just for comformation.
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Dragon93 is the Lead Programmer. What better a source?
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Its not entirely working properly, AI Soviet can retreat as normal even though there is no option to retreat for Human Soviet players.
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Where is the balance? Something I do not see! ???
playback:
http://depositfiles.com/files/8xigrig4j (http://depositfiles.com/files/8xigrig4j)
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well, maybe you can start by telling us, which player you were and what your problem is. i watched the replay and i just don't get it ::)
no offense, but:
soviet used lots of arty and mortar while wehr players looked a bit stubborn and noobish trying to defend with bunkers being bombed without even trying to rush the mortars with infantry... and then in the middle of the game the replay ends...
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All expensive. Infantry, engineers are weak. Still don't have guns, mortars, etc.
It became better, but on former there is no capture of guns and mortars. >:(
The infantry in comparison with the first version became weak.
Manual machine guns aren't effective. All is expensive.
Models of guardsmen the bad.
playback
http://depositfiles.com/files/bi767vfuh (http://depositfiles.com/files/bi767vfuh)
In the first version EF of an arrow cost cheaper and were more effective.
Light tanks (T-70, T-90) must be cheaper or more affordable.
Improvements to produce (Headquarters).
RD Tank Hunter-the ability of a horse with horseshoes medium tank.
"It is good against light vehicles and the sides and rear of medium tanks" :)
well, maybe you can start by telling us, which player you were and what your problem is. i watched the replay and i just don't get it ::)
no offense, but:
soviet used lots of arty and mortar while wehr players looked a bit stubborn and noobish trying to defend with bunkers being bombed without even trying to rush the mortars with infantry... and then in the middle of the game the replay ends...
The impact OF THE ML-20 which bombed and impossible Firebase to capture. :)
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the unit costs were increased for balance reasons.
soviet units cannot capture heavy weapons because of a bug that can only be solved by relic not the EF team.
models have nothing to do with balance, post something like that in here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=64.0 (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=64.0)
In the first version EF of an arrow cost cheaper and were more effective.[...]RD Tank Hunter-the ability of a horse with horseshoes medium tank. (make the possibility of a horse with horseshoes Medium Tank).
??? ??? ???
i think we have a language problem here ;D maybe write it in your own language and then we will find someone who can translate.
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No one plays.
Я говорил, что надо дать возможность бронебойщикам (RD Tank Hunter) подбивать средние танки.
Пока вы наконец не сделаете захват пушек, минометов и т.д. - не о каком балансе речи быть не может. Тем более что на первых порах отрядам не хватает станкового пулемета (DS-39 machine gun).
Альтернативой может быть ba
http://www.battlefield.ru/content/view/22/lang,en/ (http://www.battlefield.ru/content/view/22/lang,en/)
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/ba3/ba3.html (http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/ba3/ba3.html)
http://forum.bestway.com.ua/showthread.php?t=3995 (http://forum.bestway.com.ua/showthread.php?t=3995)
http://operation-barbarossa.narod.ru/bronevik/index.htm (http://operation-barbarossa.narod.ru/bronevik/index.htm)
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He said that Tank Hunter should be able to tamp medium tanks, we need capturing of heavy weapons for the real balance, and we need ДС-39 machine gun at early game (or БА-3).
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... Tank Hunter should be able to tamp medium tanks, we need capturing of heavy weapons for the real balance, and we need ДС-39 machine gun at early game (or БА-3).
Tank Hunters serves well while you deploy soviet armor. IMO they're fine without MG, also seems that you don't understand that the recrew bug (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3397.0) is out of Dev hands.
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Breakthrough Strategy
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1009/76/7e4207e3ce88t.jpg) (http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1009/76/7e4207e3ce88.jpg)
Instead of M4 Sherman - KW-85
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/kv85/kv85.html (http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/kv85/kv85.html)
or KW-1
http://www.battlefield.ru/en/tank-development/28-heavy-tanks/46-kv1.html (http://www.battlefield.ru/en/tank-development/28-heavy-tanks/46-kv1.html)
http://easyget.narod.ru/tank/kv_1.html (http://easyget.narod.ru/tank/kv_1.html)
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@Chasovnikov :
post reward unit suggestions in here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3161.120 (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3161.120)
or other red army suggestions in here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=64.0 (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=64.0)
this thread is meant as a balanace summary...
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@Chasovnikov
I suggest to go on those threads to post your respective units or make a new thread if don't belong there.
This thread isn't for discussion, any further message of that type will be deleted.
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Help the most epic balance issue has rised again a simple Volks squad can pick my Shock guard squad off 1 by 1. I saw my SGuards firing DP and SVT rapidly at those Volks but it seem that none was hit ( their HP bar still remain unchange when being fired) and they magically took down my Guards hit after another in front of my shocking eyes :o
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Help the most epic balance issue has rised again a simple Volks squad can pick my Shock guard squad off 1 by 1. I saw my SGuards firing DP and SVT rapidly at those Volks but it seem that none was hit ( their HP bar still remain unchange when being fired) and they magically took down my Guards hit after another in front of my shocking eyes :o
Omg
you didn´t even follow the simple rules of posting.
1.: providing replay
2.: more exact: Where the volks or the Guards vetted? Were they fighting 1 on 1? In which cover did the Guards stand?
3.: Did the volks have MP40 upgrade and were in close range vs. the Guards?
4.: Are you sure?
EDIT: just noticed you did post it in the wrong thread aswell
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Help the most epic balance issue has rised again a simple Volks squad can pick my Shock guard squad off 1 by 1. I saw my SGuards firing DP and SVT rapidly at those Volks but it seem that none was hit ( their HP bar still remain unchange when being fired) and they magically took down my Guards hit after another in front of my shocking eyes :o
Omg
you didn´t even follow the simple rules of posting.
1.: providing replay
2.: more exact: Where the volks or the Guards vetted? Were they fighting 1 on 1? In which cover did the Guards stand?
3.: Did the volks have MP40 upgrade and were in close range vs. the Guards?
4.: Are you sure?
EDIT: just noticed you did post it in the wrong thread aswell
He also did not mention if one of the units were moving.
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Worst case scenario^^:
Guards were running around in the middle of the road while vet 3 volks had MP40 and were behind sanbags with assault nade :o Mr.Q blinked and they were kiilled :P
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i was hoping that some one fix the Americans the m4105 sould shot the same distisn as the prisit. forgive me on my spelling i am not good at it...and i was thinking tha the m8 sp howitzer 75mm should be in the game an the pack 75+++m36 jackson and the m24 chaffce and the m22 locust for the airbounei have a lot more that i would add but this is anouth for now... if you can!!! thanks
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no changing vcoh units sry
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what is vcoh??..plz
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what is vcoh??..plz
it's fresh, unmodded version of Company of Heroes that Relic made. Also called 'vanilla' COH, so vCoH ;)
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what is vcoh??..plz
The original game that not have soviets on it :).
What he meant is, we don't make changes on CoH units, unless are bugged and we can fix them.