Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Balance Discussion => Topic started by: undead on June 02, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
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Soviet Sherman Skill needs 3 CP, 400~500 Manpower (i dont exactly know), 8 pop.
But Compared Churchill, Skill Unit Of British Engineering Support, Sherman Timing is Too fast. Because Churchill needs same CP. But manpower cost is 600, and pop is 14.
Besides Churchill is good vs infantry, but no good vs Tank.
Now... Sherman is good vs infantry. Also if This tank fights against Axis Tank, This Tank will be not bad. Compared Timing, I Think that Ability of Sherman is too High, and Cost is too low.
I think that in right tree of BreakThrough , Sherman skill must be second. in other words, Mechanics skill is first, and Sherman skill must be next.
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Sounds like you may not be fully updated, 1.11.1 is the latest version. The sherman costs 620 mp to call in and is fixed against tanks so it is not ridiculously overpowered. It is quite balanced at the moment.
Like the churchill, this thing isn't that great against infantry but unlike it, has bad armour and terrible health. It is slightly better against enemy vehicles and faster to compensate. All in all, it is actually not worth it in my opinion and it is better to go the other side of the doctrine or another altogether. If you can't counter it by 3cp you are doing something wrong because it is far easier to kill than the churchill. By the time it comes out you should easily have a pak and shrek, enough to make it scrap.
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You forgot to post the version tag. (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2657.0)
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ya the Sherman costing 640 or so makes it so not worth it your better off spending that on Russian tanks or any thing for that matter it needs to be cheaper to be affective and i also think the tank riders need to be a 100 cheaper but that's a different discussion.
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You forgot to post the version tag. (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2657.0)
+1
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You forgot to post the version tag. (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2657.0)
+1
XD +2
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Dumb version tags...we can all tell if he has the right patch!
Anyway, you cant compare the Sherman to anything. And ever think of balance? What happens if the Soviets need a slightly powerful tank? A tank that could beat a churchill? The Brits need a tank like the churchill, and the Soviets need that Sherman. The cost to adapt. Its hard to compare tanks, you know.
Besides, why did you even use the churchill for a example?
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Dumb version tags...we can all tell if he has the right patch!
oh, can we? some people seem to play older version of EF cause they continue to talk about some issues that have already been resolved...
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the sherman is still too easy/early to have ... even brit would like that one as they suffer in early AT in stead of the churchill
i use churchill against too early puma or to defend my brit base ...
t-28 would be ... more sov
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And ever think of balance? What happens if the Soviets need a slightly powerful tank? A tank that could beat a churchill? The Brits need a tank like the churchill, and the Soviets need that Sherman. The cost to adapt. Its hard to compare tanks, you know.
Besides, why did you even use the churchill for a example?
Churchill is an example becouse it costs 3CP. Simple.
Soviets can get both tank hunters and AT guns before US can get AT guns only and British can get Stuarts/build static guns.
Thats why US need Rangers or RR Airborne and British need Churchills.
"What happens if the Soviets need a slightly powerful tank? A tank that could beat a churchill?" - you asc?
They just need to build a SU. It will defeat a Churchill, StugIV, StuH, PzIV and will be a match for a Hetzer.
If they have no fuel they should get 3 Tank Hunter squads.
If they didnt upgrade to TH or build tank hull what did they spend their fuel on?
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Don't agree, but please everyone keep going on and on about some topic that problay already been solved.
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Agreed with Paciat, +1.
If you don't have any fuel to buy Tank Hunter upgrades or T-34/85|SU-100, Where did you put the fuel, the MG bunkers? Maybe you used it on unlocking all of the units, I can understand, but just going for the light tankovy would be more sensible to start because you have light tanks AND a SU-85/100.
T-34 can wait a little bit.