Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: AbhMkh on July 10, 2010, 04:40:03 AM

Title: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 10, 2010, 04:40:03 AM
I was wondering which faction had the best starting unit!!!!

the evaluation parameters are

hp,capping speed,building speed,damage vs infantry,damage vs light vehicles,moving speed,repairing speed

Feel free to post why you think so???
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: delmar77 on July 10, 2010, 05:18:41 AM
Grenadier.... One single Word: V E R S A T I L I TY . PE  best starting unil poll  8)
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on July 10, 2010, 06:42:39 AM
PE start with a ketty not a PG squad.

I would vote recon squad for sure. I would've thought that would be pretty obvious that it's the best.
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Blackbishop on July 10, 2010, 06:55:43 AM
British Recon Section is the best start unit:

Recon squad is weaker than infantry section, but they fill they role well :D.

EDIT: This isn't gonna change my opinion but, Do you know the capture rate value of a ketten/schwim?
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on July 10, 2010, 08:51:24 AM
1.5 capture rate
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 10, 2010, 11:38:23 AM
Same opinion here guys,the recon section is fast moving large 1.5 capping speed and takes care of those pioneers or pe squads

P.S: By starting units i mean units which you start with or you can produce immediately without any further investment
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Seeme on July 10, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
Brit, definaly.

BTW Abhmkh, why you doing so much polls?
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 10, 2010, 08:39:36 PM
Seeme i expalined that in the TD post
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Paciat on July 10, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
Same opinion here guys,the recon section is fast moving large 1.5 capping speed and takes care of those pioneers or pe squads
Tommies capture rate is 1.0.

Nothing been said about the MP cost so I have to say that Tommies are the best (Just like Ostwind is better than a T-90). They also are cheap to reinforce and have defensive bonuses in buildings.
They need to be that way to defend their base untill a Stuart/Staghound/Cromwell (and maybe a BREN carrier vs a Piospam) shows up.

If counting MP cost I would say PGs are better becouse they are build in late game too (Tommies cost as much MP as a Firefly!), can repair, can be upgraded with the best weapons ingame. Even an upgrade for their capping speed and mine detection can be researched.
Both MP44 PGs and vet 2 grens cost less and will win a firefight with Tommies (even if Tommies have upgrades).
Tommies (and the whole British fraction) are the only starting unit that cant fight units in trenches so building them is a BIG risk. If a shreck team jumps inside a trench near youre HQ the game is over.
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Blackbishop on July 10, 2010, 11:00:43 PM
@Paciat
Wrong quote pal ;D! It's a paragraph below ;).
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Seeme on July 11, 2010, 12:56:16 AM
No one should pick pe because its not a starting unit!
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 11, 2010, 05:15:58 AM
PE starts with ketts and pg's who can be upgraded with g43 and thats it any infantry or upgrades are out of scope
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Paciat on July 11, 2010, 06:27:25 PM
No point of making a most versatile infantry poll if PGs won this pool.
A most versatile tank is T-34/85.
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 11, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
yeah but pg's can be turned only into specialist squads like mp44(ai) and shreck(at) , however a versatile infantry should be a combine package in one for instance rangers or stormtroopers or airborne, here the british commandos can be included but only if they pick up some at weapon like a bazooka or a shreck etc
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Paciat on July 11, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
yeah but pg's can be turned only into specialist squads like mp44(ai) and shreck(at) , however a versatile infantry should be a combine package in one for instance rangers or stormtroopers or airborne, here the british commandos can be included but only if they pick up some at weapon like a bazooka or a shreck etc
Every unupgraded unit can pick up weapons. :P

Commandos get raped by MP44 and FG42. Theyre only good vs infantry targets (not vet 2 Grens and not PGs) and weapon crews.
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Griptonix on July 12, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
When you give a PE panzer grenadier squad the g43 upgrade at the beginning of the game, they just sit back and drop any faction's infantry. Get them offensive vetted up and they're unbeatable!
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Chancellor on July 12, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
I voted pioneers, because they are the best infantry in the game.  Forget rangers, forget falls, forget knights cross.  Piospam is the way to go!


....unless of course...you get instant-gibbed by those invisible commando demo charges... ::)
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: Seeme on July 12, 2010, 09:15:38 PM
Akinghts cross holder can probaly take on 5 unvetted pioneers...
Title: Re: Best Starting Unit Poll !!!!!!!!
Post by: AbhMkh on July 18, 2010, 06:28:04 PM
So here are the poll results

No one likes the engineers it seems..

Infantry section and Panzer Grenadiers have a tie..

followed by pioneers and ingenery....

"When one eliminates the impossible, what remains behind is vastly stranger than the possible"

Sherlock Holmes