Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Ostheer Suggestions => Topic started by: Newbie. on July 17, 2010, 01:00:28 PM

Title: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 17, 2010, 01:00:28 PM
Quick poll to see what weapons YOU'd want, and Why YOU@d want, inside the ostheer.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 17, 2010, 05:00:14 PM
I reallly really really dont not care at all. Besides the fact that I dont know all of the weapons, if its obsteer and fits the game, put it in.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Blackbishop on July 17, 2010, 05:12:18 PM
I reallly really really dont not care at all. Besides the fact that I dont know all of the weapons, if its obsteer and fits the game, put it in.
+1
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on July 17, 2010, 06:32:16 PM
Hey dont make so loooooooooooooooong polls atleast leave people with choices they would even bother to seeee :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: vonhaggon on July 17, 2010, 09:01:08 PM
 From an amature historians point of veiw, I thought this was a significant list of very usefull weapons. I enjoyed this poll
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Toorstain on July 18, 2010, 01:16:16 AM
Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Paciat on July 19, 2010, 01:03:03 PM
Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.
+1
I dont want to see a whole army equiped with some kind of experimental or uber weapons.
Becouse of the no recrew bug I also dont want to see towed guns and infantry heavy weapons.

Shrecks should not be in a 3rd fraction. AT riflenade is a good alternative.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Desert_Fox on July 19, 2010, 01:46:15 PM
AT riflenade is a good alternative.

I agree.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Werwolf on July 19, 2010, 01:58:27 PM
Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.
Becouse of the no recrew bug I also dont want to see towed guns and infantry heavy weapons.
I've also noticed that the "No-Recrew" bug would discourage the use of crewed units such as HMGs, PaKs and Nebelwerfers/Granatewerfers. Therefore, a possible solution could come in the form of self-propelled units. Some ideas:

1.) Schwere Wermachtschlepper "sWS" mit MG34 - T1. replaces heavy MG team; upgradeable with either 3.7 cm FlaK 43 (AP/AM/AA) or 15 cm Panzerwerfer (rocket artillery/fire-support).

2.) 3.7cm PaK 35/36 auf Krupp Protze - T1-T2. Light AM/AT.

3.) Schwere Panzerspähwagen (7.5cm PaK 40) Sd.Kfz.234/4 (8-Rad) - T2-T3. Heavy AM/AT.

4.) PzKpfw. II Ausf. L "Luchs" - T2. Recon/AP/AM.
That said, there should be more LMG34s and MP40s to go around...the Ostfront had a higher concentration of units armed with automatic weapons (both issued and captured) on all sides, compared to the Western Front. Especially in mid-late war. Ditto for 'Shrecks and 'Fausts. They won't be OP since the re-crewing bug would prevent the inclusion of infantry HMGs and other fire-support teams anyway.  ;D

Btw...you forgot the Eintossflammenwerfer 46 disposable long-range flamethrower.  8)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: -STC- on July 21, 2010, 04:05:02 PM
Wish for mp40 emphasize however on one condition


Give it a decent sound  ;) The current sounds like popcorn popping 5 miles away
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Griptonix on July 21, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
Celebrate diversity, read about the many different weapons used by the Germans. Great poll, but I really don't care. I just want to see the finished Ostheer soon. Whatever they are equipped with will be just fine with me.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: PetikeHUN1984 on July 21, 2010, 11:30:09 PM
Captured russian weapons like ppsh41 or something?
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Akalonor on July 22, 2010, 01:46:21 AM
Id like to see the MG34 as a squad weapon, it was hard to maintain and more fragile meaning it would be good as an elite squad weapon along with the G43 :).
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 22, 2010, 02:12:06 AM
When Obsteer comes out, its going to be sooooo unbalenced ::)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: javy52 on July 25, 2010, 04:06:20 AM
poll was awesome!

mg-42, mp-40, and grewhr 41s for the win!
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: TheReaper on July 26, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
Wespe, wespe, weape...! It's in the Battle of Boulge mod too!

(http://kepkezelo.com/images/q4hkipz68sdrkl05ooqv_thumb.jpg) (http://kepkezelo.com/viewer/q4hkipz68sdrkl05ooqv.jpg)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 26, 2010, 11:42:16 PM
Whats a wespe?
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Tico_1990 on July 27, 2010, 12:53:26 AM
A wespe is a mobile self propelled artillery gun.
Basically, it's the Hummel's little brother.

Cheers
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on July 27, 2010, 06:51:03 AM
loooooooool  , the wespe in the BOTB mod looks like a marder firing into air, looooooool ;D ;D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 27, 2010, 12:04:18 PM
Don't get us started into what the Grille in BOTB look slike ;P
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on July 27, 2010, 02:25:08 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: kitekatus on July 28, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
low angle field artilery for infantry support would be nice!
i think some thing like 15 cm sIG 33(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33))
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Venoxxis on July 28, 2010, 03:45:02 PM
low angle field artilery for infantry support would be nice!
i think some thing like 15 cm sIG 33(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33))

yea this is a very cool idea. It had been brought up serveral times here in the forum, but now - the modder team finally seems to know how to animate "shove weapons" like paks etc.- so its a really good suggestion now ;) !


Regards,

-V-
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Blackbishop on July 28, 2010, 05:09:35 PM
In a second thought, I would like to see MP40, FG42, Eintossflammenwefer 46 and de 8cm mortar, between the units of the ostheer.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 28, 2010, 05:34:42 PM
Appears everythings winning edsept that Dreaded MG30, Austrain Vintage-WWI Era junk. :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on July 28, 2010, 07:25:07 PM
I'd like to see a flying hippopotamus :)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: vonhaggon on July 29, 2010, 01:48:45 AM
Mg34 would be a great idea for squads. And the whole wespe idea i love.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: 2LTAndeh on July 29, 2010, 02:05:04 AM
the modder team finally seems to know how to animate "shove weapons" like paks etc.

 :) Awesome. I've been looking forward to seeing some infantry support guns, I hope they put some in.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Akalonor on July 29, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: TheReaper on July 29, 2010, 11:10:59 AM
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 29, 2010, 01:06:19 PM
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.

Still, the Grille in BotB looks like a Hummel/MarderIII/FlaK88/Schewerer Gustav siege gun..
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on July 29, 2010, 03:12:29 PM
Guys; this isnt the BotB mod thread and not the vehicle suggestion thread ;)
So: please back to topic! Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 29, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
Ok, first Comes in the poll the Marvelous Karbiner 98 Kurz.. This will Probably come in the Ostheer anyway.. On draw with that, we can see the MP-40 SMG, also at 26

At 21, the Panzershrek Rocket laucher!

Then, at 20, we see the Gewehr 43 Semi-Automatic Rifle.

At 19, the StG44 Assault rifle.

At 17, the Mg34 LMG.

At 14, the Panzerfaust RPG and the Flammenwerfer 35!

At 13, the MG42, FG42 and PaK44 AT Gun.

At 12, the PaK40 AT Gun, and the Panzerwurfmine,

At 11, the Panzerbüchse 39 AT Rifle.

At 10, the StG45, 50mm Mortar!

At 9, 12cm Mortar and the Luger P08 Handgun,.

At 8, G41 SA Rifle, and the MP-38 SMG,

At 7! Both greandes,

At 6, PaK36 AT Gun,

At 5, Eintossflammenwerfer 36, Luftwaffe-Fliegerfaust, Walther PPK, and the Steyr-Mannchlinner 1895 Rifle, 

At 4, Finnish-Russain Weapons, S-18/100, PaK43 88mm AT gun, Walther P38,

At 3, 8cm/81mm Mortar, PaK38 50mm AT Gun, Püppchen 88mm Laucher, Volksturmm VG 1-3, Mauser HSc Handgun, Italian Made Weapons, Mp18

At 2, PArtisan Hunting rifles, Slavack Weapons, Faustpatrone, M30 Luftwaffe Drilling Shotgun/Rifle, Volksturmm Volkspistole,

Almost last, at 1... VMG-27, IMG-28, MG.M.07, MG35A, MG13, MG08,MP35, Mp3008, Mp34, Spz-Kr Rifle, M1907 Pistol, and the Sauer 38H Handgun,

and Last, at 0,... DUH DUH DUH, the MG30 MG!



Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: TheReaper on July 29, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.

Still, the Grille in BotB looks like a Hummel/MarderIII/FlaK88/Schewerer Gustav siege gun..

Yes, it looks like the Marder III, becouse it's using the same chasiss (Pz38(t).
To on topic: I'd like to see the Pz38 in the game. :) It's like an off-map call in unit or something like the Land-Lease Sherman.

This is the vehicle thread?  ???
Lord Rommel.


Oh, I see. In a point of view, a tank is weapon.  ;) :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Ltevanlee on July 30, 2010, 07:39:40 AM
I just want to see more of what I didn't see in CoH Mp40s, FG42's, G43s, MG42s/MG34s and NOStG44s (used by too many units).
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 30, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
WHY?
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: javy52 on July 30, 2010, 02:30:39 PM
because he wants to see something different.....
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 30, 2010, 02:33:36 PM
OK
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 30, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
NO NEED TO SHOUT

I also agree that NO StG44's should appear in the EF. (Maybe StG45's for a volksturmm unit, NOT STG44's!)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on July 30, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
Loooooool , the shouting syndrome :D :D :D :
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: maxi1991 on July 30, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
all in all i don't care which weapons
it should be only somewhere near reality
1-3 experimental things as call in or heavy expensive unit would be ok. But a Ostheer only equipped with such little produced/experimental things would kill the game.

So go flame me.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: GamblerSK on July 31, 2010, 12:34:06 AM
three weapons that i like to see in ostheer armament is MG34,  Gewehr 41 and scoped FG42
i can imagine a squad of 5 men with G41 something like a rifleman squad... :)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Paciat on July 31, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
three weapons that i like to see in ostheer armament is MG34,  Gewehr 41 and scoped FG42
i can imagine a squad of 5 men with G41 something like a rifleman squad... :)
Do you want G41 to suck as bad as COH M1 Garand?  :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: GamblerSK on July 31, 2010, 12:54:47 AM
heh yea something like that ;D
anyway G41 better fits to a role of a weapon that sucks then a M1... :)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Seeme on July 31, 2010, 02:39:01 AM
As some US soldier said in COH:

"Give me 1 round, one rifle and point me towards Berlin!"
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on July 31, 2010, 01:01:51 PM
As some US soldier said in COH:

"Give me 1 round, one rifle and point me towards Berlin!"

" Perfebly the way that DOESN'T include Volksgrenadiers!"
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Akalonor on August 05, 2010, 07:47:28 AM
What , I didnt hear you!
I think that the MG42 is a little over used , and the STG 44 is hardly used at all for Axis (Pe has alot though)
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: 250.Inf. Div. on August 06, 2010, 11:21:31 PM
I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: PanzerWilly on August 07, 2010, 05:27:52 AM
I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods
Jagdpanzer is already included! ts for the PE replacing Hetzer! The Pakwagen is cool, hey Panzer III should work along with it!

Wait? This is the weapon thread. Please display all these to the vehicle thead. They will wanted to see your stuff. I suggest that the 75mm Paks to be excluded, unless your making it expensive it will be a game breaker as other faction lack such weapon or as an emplacement. Battle of the Bulge both faction have the 75mm, something the Eastern Front mod avoided. Yes, Pak is important in Ostheer, but that size is crazy! :o

My suggestion of weapon is the MG34, very classic & original as German 1942 machine gun. Which all vehicles used it over the simpler but handicapped MG42. ;D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Blackbishop on August 07, 2010, 05:40:56 AM
I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods
Jagdpanzer is already included! ts for the PE replacing Hetzer! The Pakwagen is cool, hey Panzer III should work along with it!

Wait? This is the weapon thread. Please display all these to the vehicle thead. They will wanted to see your stuff. I suggest that the 75mm Paks to be excluded, unless your making it expensive it will be a game breaker as other faction lack such weapon or as an emplacement. Battle of the Bulge both faction have the 75mm, something the Eastern Front mod avoided. Yes, Pak is important in Ostheer, but that size is crazy! :o

My suggestion of weapon is the MG34, very classic & original as German 1942 machine gun. Which all vehicles used it over the simpler but handicapped MG42. ;D

If in RL the pak40 was a beast, but this is CoH, if it's needed it could do the same damage than pak38; Devs already said that in other thread, I wouldn't mind if it's part of the ostheer ::).
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Fementedbeancurd on August 07, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
Throwing in some italian or hungarian weapons would be cool , but apart from that it doesnt really matter!
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Newbie. on August 07, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
If Russains have the 7.62mm ZiS3, damn well we get a PaK40 :P
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: 250.Inf. Div. on August 07, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
here three jewels more.please add this to the mod.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Akalonor on August 08, 2010, 01:00:27 AM
many of these are in BK mod already
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on August 09, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
The russians had 100 mm At guns too , whose shell entered a tiger through the front and exited at the back!!
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Akalonor on August 09, 2010, 04:44:20 PM
you are aware though that the ferdinand > Isu 152 ?
and that the flak 88 could do the same to many vehicles :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: TheReaper on August 09, 2010, 05:32:06 PM
here three jewels more.please add this to the mod.

Awesome models. Where it is from? :D
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: AbhMkh on August 09, 2010, 05:37:32 PM
The Ferdinand was another unsuccessful design from the germans to put a gun on a thick tin can , Ferdinand was nothing more than that , no service , no reliability,as to the flak 88 , good gun , but it couldn't produce the same effect on the late war tanks , the soviet late war tanks like is 3 would cut a panther or tiger into two pieces , like a hot knife through buttter.
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Ryousan on August 09, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
Quote
The Ferdinand was another unsuccessful design from the germans to put a gun on a thick tin can

True, but It wasnt beacause it was outclassed by soviet tanks, it was because very vulnerable to infantery and had a lot a mechanical problems. The  "upgraded" Fernidinand (aka Elephant) in the other hand was a hell a machine with the best kill ratio of all tank destroyers. It was even useful for taking out Pak postions
Title: Re: What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on August 09, 2010, 06:07:41 PM
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The Ferdinand was another unsuccessful design from the germans to put a gun on a thick tin can

True, but It wasnt beacause it was outclassed by soviet tanks, it was because very vulnerable to infantery and had a lot a mechanical problems. The  "upgraded" Fernidinand (aka Elephant) in the other hand was a hell a machine with the best kill ratio of all tank destroyers. It was even useful for taking out Pak postions

For the fact that Ferdinand was such a worse tank the both Ferdinand-Abtleilungen had destroyed too much enemy tanks. 1000 and more destruction for 80 and less Ferdinands are a high number...

And IS-III and its effect on german tanks;
Well...IS-III is from 1944-1945 and Tiger is from
1941-1942. Hugh time period for the tank development 
of the 2ww.

And now back to topic!
Vehicles arent subject of this thread ;)