Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Topic started by: mikronim on December 19, 2010, 08:26:09 PM

Title: T-34 upgrade
Post by: mikronim on December 19, 2010, 08:26:09 PM
I thought of this while watchingthe A.I. playing...it uses the t-34 alot without upgrading it while i use it almost only ugraded and sometimes not....so i thought it would be useful if the upgrade just added the better t-34 instead of discarding the old one because the 1st version is cheaper and can be also useful....+ in reality both were present on the battlefield the same time
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: cephalos on December 19, 2010, 08:29:53 PM
the T-34/85 mm upgrade works same as sherman 76mm barrel. And T-34 with upgraded 85nn barrel works far more better than with 76mm. I really don't know what's the point of having 76mm version if you can have better T-34/85
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: mikronim on December 19, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
because it's not that bad and it comes in cheaper
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: IJoe on December 19, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
@cephalos
pop upkeep, production speed, general cost for example.
I agree that it would be better if armoury upgrades, the ones that actually replace units, would simply give an option of building these better units, instead of just replacing the previous\obsolete. However, it appears to be a massive change ('though, on the other hand, I am not sure it is that much of a massive change), and I'm not sure the mod needs to get yet more complicated at this point. I mean, there are so many unsolved issues and unpolished aspects (reward units, lack of animations\animators, new Brits, Ostheer coming etc.). Probably, it would be better to concentrate all the efforts elsewhere.
Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: mikronim on December 19, 2010, 08:53:55 PM
i should agree there  :P
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: GodlikeDennis on December 20, 2010, 05:36:05 AM
This is already happening and applies to the tank riders as well. Both will become available after researching T-34/85. The other units don't need it seeing as they are about the same in cost and are just an overall improvement. The T-34 gets markedly better but costs quite a bit more so it makes sense to only allow that unit to have both upgraded and unupgraded to be built.
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: Paciat on December 21, 2010, 08:10:28 AM
Will any of you build T-34/76 after its upgraded?
Do you want 2 extra hotkeys to confuse you?
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: Versedhorison on December 23, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
Will any of you build T-34/76 after its upgraded?
Do you want 2 extra hotkeys to confuse you?

I might, its all situational really.
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: Tampio on January 17, 2011, 11:40:57 PM
I find it a good idea to possibly have some ''extra wiremesh armor''. Red Army used ones in Berlin as a cover against Anti-tank weapons like the Panzerfaust
(http://panzer.wdfiles.com/local--files/t-34-76/t34berlin.jpg)
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: Paciat on January 18, 2011, 06:45:24 AM
I find it a good idea to possibly have some ''extra wiremesh armor''. Red Army used ones in Berlin as a cover against Anti-tank weapons like the Panzerfaust
SU have it.
T-34s with their high HP, speed and powerfull anti infantry guns dont need upgrades. Also I dont think that devs have 2 extra skins for T-34/76 and T-34/85.
Title: Re: T-34 upgrade
Post by: Zerstörer on January 18, 2011, 09:13:06 PM
Actually we had the wire mesh originally on the T34/85 for the call in tank. But we couldn't fit the tank riders around it  :P
So, we put it on the SU100 to make it visibly more recognizable from distance instead