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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Mapping => Topic started by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 03:28:16 PM

Title: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
Hello community!

A while ago, I spent my time converting SP maps to make them playable in MP. My conversions include all maps from Invasion of Normandy, Operation Market Garden, Liberation of Caen, Tiger Ace, La Fiere Causeway and Trun.
Every map has its loading screen, map preview and KI works in most cases.
If you are interested, feel free to post. I'll also upload single maps because I don't think someone actually wants e.g. Omaha Beach for MP (though the poll makes me believe that I'm wrong in this point).


1.) Operation Market Garden SP conversion map pack

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6350/omgcomplete.jpg)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2602/arnhem4.png)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3218/oosterbeek4.png)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1635/valkenswaard6.png)

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7679/wolfheze6.png)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3007/best8.png)


(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6623/downloadov.png) (http://www.mediafire.com/?69rj97jrr2a9kj5)


Have fun!  :D

Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 10, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
That sounds great! There are some good maps in the Normandy Campaign that were never made MP :/ (Though I don't know about the others  ::))

Would love to see those conversions! And no, I don't think a Omaha Beach MP Map would look so good xD Gives whichever team is on top of the cliff a huge advantage.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 04:17:19 PM
What are your concrete wishes then?  :)
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Post by: BurroDiablo on April 10, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
Arnhem?  ;)
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Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 10, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Did you asked the "real" mapper of the maps already that you are allowed to publish them for MP?
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Post by: cephalos on April 10, 2011, 06:10:19 PM
many people uses campaign maps. Like in BK mod.
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Post by: Desert_Fox on April 10, 2011, 06:19:30 PM
Great work Maxi!  :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 06:40:45 PM
Okay Arnhem is on my list and I will upload it tomorrow.

Also I'll create a poll where everyone can state his/her (:P) favourite map that he/she wishes to be uploaded.

@walki1: Like cephalos said, there are many conversions already that are also used by mods officially. If Relic would disagree with the release of these conversions, I would have recognised it. I see no point why I shouldn't be allowed to change the maps a little. I take no credits for making them, just for converting.

@Moonwalker: Thank you, though you didn't actually see any of the maps yet :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 10, 2011, 07:00:11 PM
Some of these have already been done. ;)

And i agree with BurroDiablo that Arnhem would be great. Do you think you could make it so Panzer Elite start with the same units, and the Brits still surrender? ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 07:08:40 PM
I know that many of them are already done, I did them in mid-late 2009, so some of the already existing ones are younger than mine.

Making them able to surrender will need SCAR code; the problem is that when you use SCAR in MP maps, you can't win the game, even if you destroyed all enemy buildings so there's an eternal camping in the end.

If you still wish to have surrender in MP, check  this (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?223776-Surrender-MOD...-Ready-for-Use!).

About the PE starting units (I think you mean the King Tiger and the Panzer IV here :P):
I can make it for you personally, but not for the official MP version, because it f***s balance.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 10, 2011, 07:14:21 PM
That was sarcasm, man...

But, yeah, it seems pretty redundant to add your own multiplayer maps from the campaign when they have already been done by relic.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 10, 2011, 07:24:36 PM
Just a note, you might want to put that up to 3 or 4 choices for each person, It's hard to vote for just 1!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
For this I'd need a new poll in a completely new topic because there is not an option for this when I just add the poll to the topic. I'll create the new topic then.

@pariah: The maps done by Relic are not the complete SP maps, mostly just a part of them.
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Post by: pariah on April 10, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
Oh, O.K., so you're just slightly modifying the maps for multiplayer, rather than the essential reimagining that some are?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 07:44:16 PM
This is correct. I just add territory if not there already, I add the bases for the players (at locations where I think it fits best for both optic and gameplay) and remove the SP objects (e.g. invisible control structures, ralley points, SCAR markers and wntity groups). Then I open Photoshop and create the preview pics.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 10, 2011, 07:51:22 PM
Is it not possible to have more than 3?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 10, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
It is, but I thought 3 is a good number. Not too many maps to upload, because I have only 60kb/s upload speed.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Blackbishop on April 11, 2011, 12:43:18 AM
Done. Have fun ;D!!
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Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 12:43:47 AM
Cool, thanks for the merge blackbishop.
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Post by: Cranialwizard on April 11, 2011, 02:25:30 AM
I really hope Chambois prevails, I love that map!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 07:07:14 AM
@blackbishop: Thank you very much :D

@Cranialwizard: Looks like, eh? :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: cyhyryiys on April 11, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
hmm, i have all of them already from somewhere else. What is the difference?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
These maps are non altered maps from the single player missions converted to work in mp by me. If you have them already, fine.

EDIT: At those who voted for Arnhem, how many players would you like the map to have? Looks like it'll be the first one to upload.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: kitler on April 11, 2011, 04:53:20 PM
3v3
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
Anyone disagreeing/agreeing with him?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
I'm cool with 3v3 Arnhem right now, but it'll be easier to tell once we know where you are going to put the start locations.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 11, 2011, 09:41:13 PM
For Chambois, I think a 2v2 would be appropriate, 3v3 at the max. It's not large enough for a 4v4.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
@ pariah: Take a look at this:

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3608/arnhemstartingpos.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/arnhemstartingpos.jpg/)

Blue is 2p or 4p, red is 6p. The points in the middle represent the victory points assigned to the version with same colour.

@Cranialwizard: Did I state it as 8p ? If, then I will have to change it because it's actually 6p version I did ;)

EDIT: It's listed as 3v3, so everything's allright I hope. :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 09:56:52 PM
Wow, that's a fair bit smaller than i remembered from the campaign. :-[ Maybe 2v2 would be best? :-\
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
Whatever you say, I want to finish it this evening (it's 10pm in Germany right now)  :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 10:00:39 PM
Haha, yeah, i have both Berlin and Moscow times on secondary clocks in my computer. ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 10:04:47 PM
Cold war time is over, my friend ;)

If noone has anything to add, I will finish it now. Uploaded in app. one hour (because I have to eat too).
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 10:07:16 PM
Not according to DefCon! ;D

And, no, i have nothing more to add. :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 11, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
Sorry, f***ing WB crashed as usual, don't finish it this evening. You'll have to wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
Actually, i'll have to wait until i get my computer upgraded to something that fucking WORKS, so i'll have to wait 'til next year sometime...
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: cephalos on April 11, 2011, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: pariah on April 11, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
Actually, i'll have to wait until i get my computer upgraded to something that fucking WORKS, so i'll have to wait 'til next year sometime...
You should donate 250$ than 500$, mate  ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 11, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
Nah, it's alright, mate; Eastern Front is so much more important than my computer, so it takes priority. And when it comes to P.C. upgrades, there is little difference between $250 and $500 anyway...
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Post by: cephalos on April 11, 2011, 11:46:13 PM
haha I can't agree more, but in my case 250$ could do miracles  ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 12, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
Let's start a donating event for pariahs PC :P

I am now redoing Arnhem and Oosterbeek, should be online this evening.
Also I am working on an EF map that I create myself. :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 12, 2011, 04:28:39 PM
Haha, that would be nice. ;D But i would rather wait 'til next year anyway, so the hardware will be much better, since my specs now are still good.

Just wondering, why is it no longer possible to view the results of the poll? ???

Looking forward to seeing your maps, Maxi. :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 13, 2011, 11:13:01 PM
Ooops, I changed the option that the poll results are viewable for everyone (thought it meant that you can see them before you even voted, I wanted to prevent users from voting for maps because others vote for 'em and make it pay off to vote because you can just see the results after voting)

The map I'm working on is just in the beginning phase and needs a lot of work. It's gonna be named "The beginning of the end" or something else if the community suggests other names. I'm gonna make it for EF and an other mod whose mod leader I promised one further map after my first one released (Road to Carentan, see my signature). :)

Arnhem (4) and Oosterbeek (4) are available now! Look at first post.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 13, 2011, 11:17:03 PM
Thanks a lot for this, Maxi.  :)

Looking forward to any screenshots/videos anybody does on these maps. ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 13, 2011, 11:19:29 PM
Tomorrow, if I have nothing to do, but I fear school and rl business won't let me do this until weekend. Maybe I'm going for shooting some screens now.  :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 14, 2011, 04:22:31 AM
Maxi! Amazing work! I played both maps (And your road to carentan  :D) and I must say I'm very pleased! I haven't noticed any major bugs, the only one I see is that you can't capture the north most point (The one on the bridge entry) from your tactical map. You have to return to the battle and manually order that to happen, but it's so minor I wouldn't mind it so much.

Excellent :) I'm going to love these, they should be inputted into EF so we can use them in regular matches, these maps are quite well balanced.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 14, 2011, 07:10:56 AM
Thanks for your estimate, this is what keeps me working :D

If you tell me again, which one of the maps is affected by the bug described by you, I'll fix it as soon I'm at home again.

I feel honour if you say that my maps should be included in EF, but I think that won't be possible due to the different theaters (Normandy/Holland maps don't really fit Eastern Front, do they?).

For this purpose I will as I said before, create a map exclusively for EF and see if it will be taken. :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 14, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Oh, my apologies, never mentioned the map in excitement xD.

It happens on Arnhem. Though I'm not sure if it's a bug or just me, but when I highlighted units, separate and in groups on the tactical map the capture command wasn't possible.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 14, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
I'll test it in some minutes and maybe work on Vierville Paradrop (4).

Edit: It worked fine for me, has to be you ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 14, 2011, 09:28:44 PM
Aw, no Chambois?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 15, 2011, 02:24:18 AM
That will be the next one after Vierville. I just added the poll to get some sort of priority :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 15, 2011, 02:29:22 AM
Please, do the Carentan after that. It would be almost a perfect map, if not for the bridges, IMO.
Post Merge: April 15, 2011, 02:34:24 AM
4 player would fit it better, I think.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: RedGuard on April 15, 2011, 09:40:47 AM
I think the bridge maps should get lowest priority! the commissar has spoken :D
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Post by: IJoe on April 15, 2011, 09:45:33 AM
^^ I'd really make the water passable, and this map in all its glory.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 15, 2011, 11:14:03 AM
I'll see what I can do. Now finishing Vierville, then Chambois or Carentan. :)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 15, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
Hey, i just noticed that Cherbourg isn't an option. Why is that?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 16, 2011, 12:00:55 AM
Uhlalala I forgot I have to say  :-[
Adding to the poll.
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Post by: Killar on April 16, 2011, 12:33:05 PM
The AI on Arnhem and Oosterbeck isnt working properly. Most times they are sitting around and doing nothing.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 16, 2011, 01:00:43 PM
On Oosterbeek the AI should perform properly (it did when I tested the map), on Arnhem I can comfirm
this issue. It's not my mistake, this is because of problems the AI has with pathfinding. If you want to play the maps and have your fun, we could arrenge a MP match on one of them.
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Post by: Killar on April 16, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
on Oosterbeck the AI does cap but most times is standing around even in its base. Same goes for Arnhem. If you compare it to a map like Angoville you will recognize the difference. Its playable but boring.

A MP match would be cool
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 16, 2011, 03:37:12 PM
Ok then suggest one of the maps (doesn't matter if they have been done yet or not) :)
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Post by: Killar on April 16, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
Oosterbeck looks nice! Good choice to try out urban if you play as soviet.

I will host a game with your map 10:00 forum time. Feel free to join


Btw a map with 6players is already done...
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 16, 2011, 05:02:45 PM
I know, but I'm sorry, I can't play this evening, sorry.
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Post by: Mystic-Car on April 16, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 16, 2011, 01:00:43 PM
On Oosterbeek the AI should perform properly (it did when I tested the map), on Arnhem I can comfirm
this issue. It's not my mistake, this is because of problems the AI has with pathfinding.
Two tips, which should improve the AI:
1. two free slots around resource points
2. some free space around the HQ

Mystic
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 16, 2011, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: Mystic-Car on April 16, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Two tips, which should improve the AI:
1. two free slots around resource points
2. some free space around the HQ

Mystic

Something like this was already in my mind, thanks for the hints, I will fix it as soon as I can access my computer again.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 19, 2011, 08:47:34 PM
Sorry for the missing number of updates, but this week I am working to earn a little amount of money :P

Next week you will see more, featuring Vierville Paradrop, Chambois and Carentan. I'm not only uploading the maps, I am completely redoing them because my conversions from more than a year ago weren't quite balanced. What's also coming: Updated versions of the two previously released maps, featuring a (hopefully) improved AI. See you then  ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 19, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 19, 2011, 08:47:34 PM
Sorry for the missing number of updates, but this week I am working to earn a little amount of money :P

Next week you will see more, featuring Vierville Paradrop, Chambois and Carentan. I'm not only uploading the maps, I am completely redoing them because my conversions from more than a year ago weren't quite balanced. What's also coming: Updated versions of the two previously released maps, featuring a (hopefully) improved AI. See you then  ;)

Take your time :)

But not too much time xD
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: HerrVoss on April 22, 2011, 06:17:08 AM
I would love to see an Arnhem map with the huge bridge separating the to sides. ;D I know this would need to be an independent project but still.....
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 22, 2011, 10:49:47 AM
The bridge is far to high for the camera to display the whole range of units. I even thought about deleting it from the map because it blocks some nices passages to/from the Allied base, but left it because of historical correctness and because it belongs to that map. Now there is one map entry point on the bridge (remember the Allied units coming from there?).
Today I'll continue with Vierville:

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5989/m02paradropmap.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/m02paradropmap.jpg/)

What do you think about it?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 23, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
Vierville is looking really nice. :)
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Post by: jealco on April 24, 2011, 11:23:26 AM
that is looking rather nice.  i'll have to download the other two and give them a shot as well.

keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
Thank you pariah and jealco. Vierville is done, next will be Carentan.  :)
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 26, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
Thank you pariah and jealco. Vierville is done, next will be Carentan.  :)
Great. I wonder, if you're going to make the water passable, so it won't be just another bridge map?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 08:57:05 PM
What, you want to turn the units into Jesus? ??? :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 08:57:05 PM
What, you want to turn the units into Jesus? ??? :D
Don't tell me, you haven't seen the maps with passable water. It would mean you've never played the first CoH campaign.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Yeah, i am fully aware that shallow water is passable, but i don't know how you intend to make the Carentan water passable. It's effectively blocked by the terrain.
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Yeah, i am fully aware that shallow water is passable, but i don't know how you intend to make the Carentan water passable. It's effectively blocked by the terrain.
Simple - just rise the bottom with leveling tool.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
I don't think that would let them cross the concrete, would it? :-\

But either way, i don't think it's a good idea to change that. Maxi and i want to keep the maps as close as possible to the original, so such a big change is too great.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 09:23:49 PM
I'm just suggesting, that some changes to eliminate "the bridge element" will only benefit the map, making it actually viable for proper multiplayer.
Surely, it's all up to MaxiKing6.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
Yes it is. Maybe if he feels like it, he can make 2 versions - 1 keeping to the original, and 1 leveling out the water.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
Chill out lads. Neither Hauptmann Berger nor any Ranger troop is able to walk the water Jesus-like :P
As IJoe said, I'd simply raise the terrain or make the edges a little more plain, just have to have a look at it to see what's possible. I'll tell you later. After Carentan, Chambois or Mortain is coming.

Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 09:36:18 PM
Yes it is. Maybe if he feels like it, he can make 2 versions - 1 keeping to the original, and 1 leveling out the water.
Exactly that was my plan.  ;)
An "IJoe special edition against chokepointing and noobing on bridgemaps".
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 10:24:16 PM
That's cool. I honestly like having to deal with whatever terrain there is. Makes it feel more real. 8)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
One more question: Do you want Carentan to be 2p or 4p?

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7863/tmpg.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/tmpg.jpg/)

Short screenshot as a help for you to decide.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 10:29:01 PM
Quote
An "IJoe special edition against chokepointing and noobing on bridgemaps".
Oh! That is so "unhumble" to place my name there, but after all, I deserve it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 10:30:23 PM
Perhaps display a Tactical Map shot of the map, so i can have a better idea of space and distance? ;)

P.S. Yes, you totally do, IJoe. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:32:00 PM
@pariah: Done (look up)

I can also make a compromise and add some of the undestructable bridges like on Lyon.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
I was thinking more like the Tactical Map, but that's cool too. I think 2v2 would be good. IJoe, what do you think?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Here you go pariah:

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9617/m03carentanmap.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/m03carentanmap.jpg/)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 10:37:32 PM
Haha, i meant with the resources and territory, like Vierville. ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
No indistructible bridges would be far less than enough, sadly.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:39:31 PM
Uhh, that's gonna take some time. Just opened Photoshop to do this (because all of my maps deserve a territory sector redistriction). Jusr waited for IJoe to tell me how many players he would like the map to have ;)

@IJoe: You'll have to pay me for your special edition :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 26, 2011, 10:39:31 PM
@IJoe: You'll have to pay me for your special edition :P
4 players
I pay you with my sincere sympathy (ain't that a reward?)  ;D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 10:42:23 PM
I pay you with my sincere sympathy (ain't that a reward?)  ;D

I'll see if that's enough to be satisfied lol.
(Honestly this map is gonna be total crap with just the normal bridges.. ;))
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 10:50:49 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 26, 2011, 10:44:43 PM
I'll see if that's enough to be satisfied lol.
(Honestly this map is gonna be total crap with just the normal bridges.. ;))
Remember the way the Beatles used to sing:
"...don't care too much for money - money can't buy ... love..."   :P
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 10:56:21 PM
Love isn't what I exspect of other forum members lol^^

I will make the balanced, bridgeless version, but the "original" that pariah suggested has priority.  :)
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 11:02:08 PM
You're the boss.  :)
But why remove bridges completely? They can serve as the fastest routes to cross the shallow water. Something like "Kursk" map, though it's not that good - just as an example of what I mean.
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Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
Does Kursk have water? ???
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 11:06:35 PM
He means Prokhorovka.

I have an idea: Both teams start in the town in the south and there's only a victory point on the other side. Comments?
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
Does Kursk have water? ???
Yeah, sorry about that...  :-[
Comment: People will just go killing off each other - why bother going anywhere?
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Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:12:52 PM
I was thinking 3 Victory Points...

(See picture.)
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 11:16:37 PM
Lol you're going to be a great artist pariah :P

That was my first idea, but there's a problem. Players 1 and 2 have the advantage, that they have immediate acces to the VPs and 3 and 4 can be easily cut from that by blowing the bridges up. If you have moaaar ideas, just tell me - at the moment I'm the opposite of creative :P
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Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:36:14 PM
Haha, you liked my tank skin as well? ;D

I did think of that, but i couldn't think of any way around it. I thought of moving the highest V.P. up to the other island, but i wasn't sure if that would work or not... :-\
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
You did a tank skin? Now that's new to me..

I will think about the map layout tomorrow.
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Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
Don't you have access to the donors area? As a translator, i thought you were part of the team... :-\
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Post by: IJoe on April 26, 2011, 11:48:01 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 26, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
You did a tank skin? Now that's new to me..

I will think about the map layout tomorrow.
Oh! Come on, just publish a picture (or PM it to him). He shouldn't miss this masterpiece of yours.
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Post by: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:50:44 PM
Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 26, 2011, 11:52:44 PM
No, I haven't. I have just access to the Translation subforum. See here:

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Post by: IJoe on April 27, 2011, 12:03:59 AM
Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:50:44 PM
Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.
You're too cruel...
And I don't think the devs would care about any publication on donor boards, but their own.
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Post by: pariah on April 27, 2011, 12:05:52 AM
Cruel? How? ???

And it is sort of their publication, since it was theirs originally. I just edited it.
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Post by: Blackbishop on April 27, 2011, 12:11:25 AM
Quote from: pariah on April 26, 2011, 11:50:44 PM
Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.
He is a translator, he already read the line of that unit :P.
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
O.K., another attempt at Victory Point placement.

Not sure if you want to remove/move some or anything, but i think it's important that the town square have both a Victory Point and a Strategic Point, since it's the pivotal area of the map.

Also i think it's best that there's an odd number of Victory Points, to prevent a prolonged stalemate.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
Thank you for your idea pariah, but I think now I figured it out. I always search for a certain kind of symmetry on the maps to make them as balanced as possible.

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5518/m03carentanmapv1.jpg) (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/m03carentanmapv1.jpg/)

1,2,3 and 4 represent the bases. VP means victory point, IB indestructible bridge and DB the opposite (actually the should be changed, that DBs are in the middle). Medium fuel points (because I actually never place high fuel points) are represented by the MF.
To reach the symmetry stated above, I will add a fourth bridge. Then, it should work fine. I agree with your idea of the town aquare as the no. 1 chokepoint, that's why I placed one of the VPs there. Now IJoe isn't able to complain anymore (;)), because the players can't be seperated by blowing the bridges up. Maybe I'll also add a fourth and a fifth VP in the south to disburden the north with the bridges.
The map is actually quite symmetric, you only need to change a few details. :)
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 05:45:56 PM
Interesting idea. I would have tried to keep it more similar to the level with the starting positions, but this might just work.

1 Suggestion, though - Maybe either increase the level of the Fuel Point in the North, or decrease the level of the 1 in the South, to increase the value of that far away corner.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
Testing the map will give the answers ;)
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 05:54:36 PM
 :'(...Evidentally i am useless now, so don't worry about me. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 06:51:19 PM
You're never useless, as you proofed.. ;)
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 06:55:09 PM
What use am i for map testing? ;) :(
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Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on April 28, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
Make sure to replace the Chruch!!! Otherwise you will be able to build airbornes as wehrmacht if you upgrade it.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
Your suggestion made my mind spin and come to that idea ;)
And it's great to have someone that always responds on my posts in this topic, no matter how low-prioritized they are  :)

@walki: I did it already ;) Same goes for the townhall.
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: walki1 on April 28, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
Make sure to replace the Chruch!!! Otherwise you will be able to build airbornes as wehrmacht if you upgrade it.
Are you sure? I thought that would be tied to the level, like the Cherbourg Forward "Motorpool". :-\
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 07:06:55 PM
You can always edit the maps. If there are such sp buldings, where you can produce special units, there's always a "normal" counterparty to it, so you just need to replace it.
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
O.K... So would it be possible to have the Forward "Motorpool" in skirmish/multiplayer or not?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Sure, it is possible.
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
Cool. I thought you guys said it wasn't in the relevant topic. :-\ So maybe in the future, think you could make a map with that, just to try it out?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 07:20:10 PM
You could do one on your own, but I know, your Pc keeps crashing when you try it.
Maybe later. As said, I'm working on conversions AND an EF map.
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Yeah, that's cool. It's not in any way important; Just a thought.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 10:06:37 PM
An intensive testing with ceph of Vierville just told me to raise the sum of munition on this map. He was near 0 with the ammo upkeep.
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Post by: cephalos on April 28, 2011, 10:22:01 PM
just make 2x10mun instead of 2x5mun. And 2 IS-2 will kill any muni economy. At least I had enough to place some mines  ;D
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Post by: pariah on April 28, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
Looking at the picture again:
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on April 22, 2011, 10:49:47 AM
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5989/m02paradropmap.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/m02paradropmap.jpg/)
I think the middle Munitions point should be +15.

Also, down the bottom, remove some hedgerow to allow more even access to the Munitions point with the enemy equivalent.
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Post by: cephalos on April 28, 2011, 10:28:20 PM
good idea pariah, also I'd suggest moviing this middle munitions point closer to the road.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 10:53:55 PM
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5118/relic00242.jpg) (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/relic00242.jpg/)

Actually, there were minoe changes to the res layout after I posted this picture (map needed more fuel). Also, there's a passage from the southern HQ to the munition sector at the bottom, which isn't displayed because I'd have to redo the tacmap completely then (a lot of work).
I made each and every path equivalent, don't worry. :)

I'll move the middle munition point further in the streets direction and make it a munition point (high).
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Post by: cephalos on April 28, 2011, 11:07:10 PM
good. more munitions means more mines. more mines means we can get more kills  ;D
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 28, 2011, 11:13:43 PM
Lol

Another question: I'm slightly annoyed by the plainsounds. Should I remove them, so there are just the frog- and insectsounds?
Here a sample of both variants:

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Post by: cephalos on April 29, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
leave it. I love climatic maps  ;)
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 29, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
Ok, thanks for voting, but I wait for others opinion, too. :)
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Post by: pariah on April 29, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
...So how are we supposed to play a .rar file?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 29, 2011, 09:20:28 PM
It's an archive mate, simply use WinRar or WinZip or whatever you like to extract the two files. I wasn't able to attach the streamed .mp3 files, so you have to extract them. ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on April 29, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
I don't think i have WinRar nor WinZip... ??? If i do, i've never used them, so i'm not sure what to do... :-\
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on April 29, 2011, 09:25:56 PM
I'll send you a PM for solving this problem. ;)
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 03, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
Again, sorry for the missing number of updates, but I'm very busy in RL atm so I don't have that much time to waste on mapping  ;)
Expect something.. possibly Carentan.. at the weekend. :)
Stay tuned!
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Post by: pariah on May 03, 2011, 10:04:01 PM
Looking forward to it. :) And as always, no hurry. ;)
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:02:31 AM
Update for Vierville:


I know that Arnhem and Oosterbeek are down, I'll reupload them after reworking the maps.
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Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 12:05:36 AM
Air raid? Where did you get that sound from?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
There are billions of sounds in the ambient folder of the WW2Sound.sga.
One of them was the ambience of mission 2 where you play as Airbornes on Vierville, including plainsounds and airraid sounds.
There are also sounds for barking dogs, loads of sirens and many different wind sounds.
Using the action markers in the WB, you can listen to all that stuff (nah, but nearly every file). You're also able to listen to the unit comments and some jokes, oh yeah, and all the weapon- and vehicle sounds too. Yeahh, V1-loop FTW  ;D
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Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 12:20:49 AM
What about the line "They're out there. Can you see?"? I'm pretty sure it was in this level. Is that in your conversion?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:23:19 AM
No, this is a unit comment and was removed by me when I deleted the m02_vierville_paradrop.scar and all the .lua and .nis files. My map is now just a normal skirmish map. :)
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Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 12:41:36 AM
Oh. I always enjoyed that line. :( I guess for realism it's good to have it gone with it being converted to multiplayer, but oh well.

Man, i really want to play that level again now. See if i can listen to the line again. :'(
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:44:19 AM
Maybe later, I'll send it as a .mp3 file to you ;)
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Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 12:47:39 AM
You're such a nice guy, Maxi. ;D

I was just thinking if i can remember how to trigger it. I think it's just when you look around the map in the fog of war, isn't it?

By the way, wouldn't it be in German for your version?
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Post by: Blackbishop on May 08, 2011, 12:48:46 AM
From now on, this topic will be stickied ;D!
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:52:03 AM
@blackbishop: Ohhwww man, this is such an incredible honour to me, what have I done that I deserve it?  :D

@pariah: Oh yeah, darn. if you still want it (though it's German, what also sounds pretty badass xD), just send a PM to me ;)
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Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 01:19:10 AM
1) Some great map conversions. ;)

2) It really doesn't matter. I have such major cravings right now, i'll totally be playing through all the campaigns again when i can. ;D :'(
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Post by: Cranialwizard on May 08, 2011, 04:22:58 AM
Have you ever heard the US comment: "WE'VE GOT CRICKETS!" In a really, panicy, frantic way? They scream it, but quietly.

I hear that every once in a blue moon, and when I do it's always something different. I sent a Volks squad in and they screamed it, on the other hand I sent a Tiger in and they did the same thing. It's got me pondering what "crickets" are and why they are so friggin dangerous you have to shout it.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 09:27:10 AM
Which unit does that say? And does it do that also in skimishes?
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Post by: cephalos on May 08, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
"Crickets"? I think those were "Krauts" - "We've got Krauts here"
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
Hello fans!  ;D

From now on, there will be a change in the way I release the maps. You will get to see the ingame maps as before, but I won't provide download links anymore because, due to the low popularity, the files are down, faster than I can upload the next map.
Instead of doing that, I will create kind of a map pack that I'll release when it's done (to ensure everyone has the same version of the maps and make it more comfortable to download/play.
I'll disable the download links for Arnhem and Oosterbeek, Vierville stays downloadable because it's final and it's a long way until I can release the "Invasion of Normandy Conversion Pack".

The first mappack will be the "Operation Market Garden Conversion Pack" and you can exspect it to be released at the end of this month, including Arnhem (4p), Oosterbeek(4p), Valkenswaard(4p/6p), Best (8p) and Wolfheze (6p).

I hope you understand this step.
Regards,

Maxi
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Post by: cephalos on May 09, 2011, 10:06:29 AM
+1 good idea
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Blackbishop on May 09, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
Use MediaFire ;)... those links don't expire.
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 09, 2011, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: cephalos on May 09, 2011, 10:06:29 AM
+1 good idea
You have to thank IJoe for that idea. :)

Quote from: blackbishop on May 09, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
Use MediaFire ;)... those links don't expire.
It's not only because they expire - it's more of a big cake instead of many little cookies. ;)
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Post by: RedGuard on May 20, 2011, 10:32:26 AM
cake? ;D  :D
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 20, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Currently, I have to say I am out of ingredients..  :-\
I got stuck doing Carentan because I had a lot to do and yes I wasn't in the mood to do it :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 29, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/954/carentanb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/carentanb.jpg/)

 ;)
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Post by: pariah on May 29, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
Nice, although the middle Strategic Point up on the smaller island doesn't seem to serve much purpose.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 29, 2011, 10:18:53 PM
Not everything has to make sense :P
What would your suggestion be to make this sector of a higher priority?#
Just take out paint and make one of your fabulous and fanstastic paintings, please. It's not too late yet.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 29, 2011, 10:27:51 PM
I would suggest stretching the territory of that Point to surround the nearby Munitions and Fuel Points.
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Post by: cephalos on May 30, 2011, 01:06:19 AM
What I would do:
switch this +16 mun nearby Hall with this +5 mun on island. Then use this strategic point to surround this +16 mun point, so if players want to have munitons income they will be forced to defend both points.
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Post by: Cranialwizard on May 30, 2011, 01:12:34 AM
Quote from: cephalos on May 30, 2011, 01:06:19 AM
What I would do:
switch this +16 mun nearby Hall with this +5 mun on island. Then use this strategic point to surround this +16 mun point, so if players want to have munitons income they will be forced to defend both points.

I think that's placing it a bit too close to one of the HQ's. Putting that muni in the middle makes the players compete and struggle for it.
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Post by: pariah on May 30, 2011, 01:53:09 AM
Maybe put it in the destroyed house, if troops can get in there?
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 30, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
If I understood you correctly, this is what it should look like:

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3600/carentan2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/carentan2.jpg/)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 30, 2011, 06:19:46 PM
Sure, that's alright.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on May 30, 2011, 06:28:25 PM
Well Balanced my friend.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Blackbishop on May 30, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Excellent job MaxiKing! :D
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Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 30, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Thank you, thank you all! *effusively throwing rose petals around*

:)

But please, remember the cake and stop thinking of the cookies. This evening I will work on Valkenswaard or Best, so I can release OMG pack soon. Carentan was just to be finished because I want to finish work I begin.

...and...
Quote from: blackbishop on May 30, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Excellent job MaxiKing! :D

...please, just call me Maxi  ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 30, 2011, 08:29:43 PM
O.k., well, be sure to post the Tactical Map again when you're done updating it again, so we can tell you you're doing it wrong again.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 30, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9746/carentan3.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/carentan3.png/)

Hope that fits.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 30, 2011, 09:40:07 PM
This is what i had in mind:

Move Ammo to destroyed building.
Extend Strategic territory.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 30, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
Ok that's also a nice idea but are you ok with the current one?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 30, 2011, 10:08:22 PM
Eh, i think the town hall should have high Munitions. to increase the value of the area. It's not bad, though.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 30, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
Yeah I misunderstood you or someone else when I did this. Will be corrected, I swear :D
I like your version better though. It makes the north more equal to the south.
Now, I will go to bed but tomorrow you can exspect the final version (although it won't be uploaded ;D)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on May 31, 2011, 04:23:24 AM
What happened to Chambois? D:
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Raider217 on May 31, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
(Going of Maxi's Map in reply #172)

Umm if im understanding pariahs suggestion correctly your going to have three strategic points next to each other which isnt really ideal instead you should change the left and right, top strat points (the ones with the VP's) into low fuel. As for the top, middle muni keep it where it is, extend it upward and remove the medium fuel at the top.

As for the values of the muni at the Manor if that was to go up you'd probably want to lower the value of the north muni to 10, as you currently have 51 muni on the map which is enough.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 31, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
@Raider217:

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7893/carentan4.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/carentan4.png/)

@Cranialwizard:

Chambois has no priority ATM, it will be released with Invasion of Normandy SP conversion map pack. But don't worry, it WILL be done.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Raider217 on May 31, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
I was imagining the strat points area in more of a U shape cutting off that top muni from the two fuel points either side, whilst the muni was able to mantain its original position.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 31, 2011, 02:29:39 PM
Could you just make a little sketch of that map on your own and post it here?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on May 31, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Raider217 on May 31, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
Umm if im understanding pariahs suggestion correctly your going to have three strategic points next to each other which isnt really ideal
What's wrong with having 3 connected Strategic territories? ???
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Raider217 on June 01, 2011, 01:39:35 AM
Quote from: pariah on May 31, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Raider217 on May 31, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
Umm if im understanding pariahs suggestion correctly your going to have three strategic points next to each other which isnt really ideal
What's wrong with having 3 connected Strategic territories? ???

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9746/carentan3.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/carentan3.png/)

@pariah it's not ideal generally you want them seperated otherwise whats the point they might as well be one area not three 2 is fine bt not 3 is a bit much :\
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 01, 2011, 01:44:12 AM
The points are separated enough, and they cover different points, so i think it's fine. And there are actually 5 connected, when you look down past the bridges. I see no problem with this.
Post Merge: June 01, 2011, 02:06:56 AM
Just for the hell of it, i decided to draw some arrows leading back to the players base. I think it's fine the way it is.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 02, 2011, 04:07:31 PM
Could you please come to a solution where both of you agree with? If not, I will search the result that I like best and make it how I want. :P

Edit: Solution:
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 12, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Wolfheze (6)

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4205/6pwolfheze.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/6pwolfheze.png/)


Furthermore, I need a beta tester for my conversion map packs.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 12, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on June 12, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Furthermore, I need a beta tester for my conversion map packs.
I'LL DO IT! Erm... oh... :'(
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on June 12, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: pariah on June 12, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on June 12, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Furthermore, I need a beta tester for my conversion map packs.
I'LL DO IT! Erm... oh... :'(

I'll take a chip at it.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 12, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
Thanks, Cranial. I'll upload Wolfheze now and send you its link via PM when it's ready.

EDIT: Another beta tester is needed!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 14, 2011, 05:01:06 PM

Best (8 )

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8024/bestuk.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/bestuk.png/)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 14, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
Real nice, but don't you think that Fuel Point right near the players base is too close?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Goober on June 14, 2011, 05:16:32 PM
Lol, that map "Best" looks a bit like "Hochwald Gap 8p". Was that from the PE campaign?
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 14, 2011, 05:19:40 PM
Yeah. There's also a 2-player Best, which looks remarkably like that island with +16 Munitions. ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 14, 2011, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: pariah on June 14, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
Real nice, but don't you think that Fuel Point right near the players base is too close?
It is. I forgot to move it after I placed it in the nearest players base to create a new territory around it.

Quote from: Goober on June 14, 2011, 05:16:32 PM
Lol, that map "Best" looks a bit like "Hochwald Gap 8p". Was that from the PE campaign?
Actually, Relic made its map "Hochwald Gap" out of the campaign map. It's altered though, so I made a new, original, direct conversion of it.

If you kept watching the poll, you may have recognised that I only need to finish Valkenswaard to release the first map pack! :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 14, 2011, 05:23:59 PM
Hmm... I don't remember the Hochwald Gap being in the campaign... :-\
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 14, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
Best was in the campaign. Hochwald Gap is the MP version, Relic just changed few details and the maps name. Also the aforementioned map Best (2) is a little stamped area from the maps center.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Goober on June 15, 2011, 05:11:57 AM
I actually was asking if Best was in the campaign. (I never played the TOV campaigns) Sorry for the mix-up.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on June 15, 2011, 02:34:43 PM
Quote
Zitat einfügen
I actually was asking if Best was in the campaign. (I never played the TOV campaigns) Sorry for the mix-up.
+

It's from the Opposting Fronts campagin
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 03:21:31 PM
It's that level where you have to defend against Paratroopers, and then blow the bridge with Pioneers. Forget what it was called.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Goober on June 15, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
LOL. I just realized I said "TOV". I meant "OF". Sorry, again.

I could just scream!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
Valkenswaard (6)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7878/valkenswaard.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/valkenswaard.png/)

All conversions of Operation Market Garden are done for now, I tested every single map and except of some AI failures (sometimes slightly stupid) everything works fine. Keep your eyes open, I'll edit the first post when the upload is done. Thank you all for critics and improvement suggestions. Especially Cranialwizard who tested some of these maps.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 04:50:25 PM
Those H.Q. sectors look tiny...
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
They're actually big enough to build every building of each faction in, I tested it, don't worry. If there are complaints about it's size from players who experienced an issue ingame, I'll change it immedeately.
May be the size of the map, it's pretty big.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
My problem was with the hedgerow and buildings that looked like they would be in the way, but now i remember that the Tactical Map probably isn't updated yet, so nevermind...
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 06:44:12 PM
Ok fine then, It will take me some time to create some images for the release.. stay tuned :P

First post updated! (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5606.0)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 06:49:41 PM
This work you have done is so professional. It's fantastic! Can't wait to try aaaall of your creations!
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 06:56:23 PM
Thank you very much, pariah. You just made me smile like a child on christmas eve. And yeah and I just saw that you even downloaded it :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 07:33:26 PM
Ummm... Nope. I didn't download anything... ???
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 07:35:05 PM
Must have been someone else then. I just thought it was you because you were the first one (and I think you will be the last one  :-[) to comment on my upload..
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Cranialwizard on June 15, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
He will not :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 09:24:08 PM
Ok thanks now I feel well again.  :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Goober on June 15, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
Great job on the conversions!  :D They're excellent! (Y)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
Thank you Goober. I wish I had your endurance when it comes to doing my own maps..  :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: HerrVoss on June 15, 2011, 10:12:19 PM
LoC - Carpiquet Airport (6p)
this is the one I would like converted. it would be very interesting to keep the heschels taking off and the defensive line in the middle.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 10:15:42 PM
I don't think the planes will be moving. ;)
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 10:23:43 PM
Quote from: pariah on June 15, 2011, 10:15:42 PM
I don't think the planes will be moving. ;)

Pariah is right. Even if there will be Henschels, they'll just be static. Otherwise you'd need Scar code which messes up MP maps so that you are unable to win the game.
Liberation of Caen (LoC) will be the next map pack. Give me just three weeks.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Blackbishop on June 15, 2011, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: HerrVoss on June 15, 2011, 10:12:19 PM
LoC - Carpiquet Airport (6p)
this is the one I would like converted. it would be very interesting to keep the heschels taking off and the defensive line in the middle.
There wasn't a carpiquet map on CoH 2.602 ????
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 15, 2011, 10:38:35 PM
Come to think of it, yeah, wasn't there a 2-player version added recently? :-\
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 15, 2011, 10:51:44 PM
Yip, you're right. However, Relic isn't able to release their full scaled campaign maps in a that balanced way like me :p
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Goober on June 15, 2011, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on June 15, 2011, 10:51:44 PM
Yip, you're right. However, Relic isn't able to release their full scaled campaign maps in a that balanced way like me :p

 :D
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 16, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
Added new poll, it's messed up though because I couldn't change the number of votes members have. Please select JUST ONE.
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on June 21, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Come on guys, vote vote vote!! Before a certain count of votes isn't reached, I can't continue mapping!  :P
Title: Re: Poll for SP map conversions [new]
Post by: pariah on June 21, 2011, 06:37:04 PM
Meh. I really don't care.
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on July 08, 2011, 07:24:43 PM
Okay, Liberation of Caen is next. Locked poll.
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on August 11, 2011, 02:11:54 AM
Authie (4)

Operation Overlord. June 7th, 1944. British 2nd Army’s D-Day objective was to take Caen, they are a day behind schedule. 3rd Battalion must secure Authie and establish a base of operations from which to assault Caen.

  • Player count: 4
  • Resources: 6x munition low + 2x munition high = 62 munition; 4x fuel low + 2x fuel medium = 40 fuel; 7x manpower resource point
  • AI specifics: No known problems

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6633/relic00400b.png)


Loading Screen:
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/232/relic00399.jpg)


Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: cephalos on August 12, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
Authie -one of my favourite maps, but in campaign it takes 20 mins to finish it. Finally, I can play all over again on it :) thanks Maxi!
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on August 12, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
You'll see that this conversion is very fun to play! Just wait for the Liberation of Caen mappack. ;)
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Eric_the_Red on September 22, 2011, 06:52:57 AM
I don't mean to throw off the discussion here, but thought Maxi - or someone else - might be able to help with this...

I found this thread...

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?235017-NEW-Map-Pack-5-COH-SP-Conversions (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?235017-NEW-Map-Pack-5-COH-SP-Conversions)

Tried downloading the maps. Apparently, only "Trun" works. The other maps just take me to a "File Not Found" page of doom. So, I couldn't get "Miss Drop", "LaFiere", or "Hill 112".

Anyone have any idea where I could download these three maps?

Thanks in advance.

-Eric
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on September 22, 2011, 02:38:26 PM
Either you ask the author to re-upload the maps or you wait for my conversions ;)
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: keelan85 on December 14, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
Are you still getting time to work on these Maxi?

Are you going to be able to release some more soon?
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on December 14, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Other projects have higher priority at the moment, but yes, I didn't give my SP map conversions up yet. You can exspect the next package around Christmas ;)
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Tankbuster on December 15, 2011, 08:03:42 AM
The Miss drop map didn't have too many fuel/munition points, it could be hard to balance.
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on December 15, 2011, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tankbuster on December 15, 2011, 08:03:42 AM
The Miss drop map didn't have too many fuel/munition points, it could be hard to balance.

That's why I always change the resource layout ;)
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Eric_the_Red on December 31, 2011, 12:20:46 AM
Finally, after countless searches online, I've found the Caen SP conversion map.

It plays very nicely, but there is one problem that I can't figure out:

From time to time, I like to save a skirmish game so that I can come back to play it later. With the Caen map, the skirmish saves properly. However, when I go to load it from the list, I see the game begin loading and then it goes back to the Main Menu screen a few moments later, before I'm able to begin playing the map.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on December 31, 2011, 01:14:51 AM
Saved games and replays don't work on custom sga maps. Either you extract the sgb and the other files and place it in "C:\Users\%username%\Documents\My Games\Company of Heroes\WW2\Data\Scenarios\MP" or you list the sga file in your COH/EF module file, however then you can't play online anymore. So I'd recommend you to extact the files from the archive, if you wish to load a saved game.
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Eric_the_Red on January 25, 2012, 03:31:31 AM
Quote
Saved games and replays don't work on custom sga maps. Either you extract the sgb and the other files and place it in "C:\Users\%username%\Documents\My Games\Company of Heroes\WW2\Data\Scenarios\MP" or you list the sga file in your COH/EF module file, however then you can't play online anymore. So I'd recommend you to extact the files from the archive, if you wish to load a saved game.

Hi Maxi,

I'm bringing this topic back to life again!

I must be missing something here...

As you suggested, I copied the following files to this folder:

6p_caen.info
6p_caen.sgb
6p_caen.tga
6p_caen_id
6p_caen_map.tga
6p_caen_map_base.tga
6p_caen_map_slots.tga
6p_caen_mm.tga
6p_caen_tml.tga

"C:\Users\Eric\Documents\My Games\Company of Heroes\ww2\Data\Scenarios\MP"

Isn't this everything that I need for a saved game to load properly?

As I said before, I sometimes play against AI and like to save my games once in a while. I don't really understand why this particular map isn't allowing me to load the games that I've saved while playing with this map.

Any thoughts?

Your advice is appreciated!

-Eric
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 25, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Hi Eric,

that should actually do it. Anyway, if it still doesn't work like you said I will take a closer look at it when I have the time for it.

Make sure to check this topic once in a while!
Thank you for your interest,

Maxi
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Eric_the_Red on January 25, 2012, 11:50:55 PM
Maxi, I think you've figured it out...

I placed the files in the MP folder as I explained above, but I still couldn't load my saved games.

Well, I looked in my EF folder for the .sga file and it wasn't there. So, I also placed the 6p_caen.sga file in the same location as the standard Eastern Front maps:

"C:\Users\Eric\Documents\My Games\Company of Heroes\ww2\scenarios

Now everything works perfectly and I'm able to load all of my saved games.

Thanks for the advice, Maxi. It solved a problem that I would never have figured out on my own.
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 26, 2012, 09:29:31 PM
Great that you were able to solve that problem on your own :D
Title: Re: SP map conversions by MaxiKing6
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on February 22, 2012, 08:11:02 PM
Just for the records - didn't forget about this, there's just so much else to do and the priority of my SP map conversions is very low.