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Title: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 07:30:40 PM
hey guys, the idea of this just popped into my head this morning. I really respect Canada's involvement in the second world war and I thought I could put them into CoH and make it compatible with EF too. You guys interested??

Current idea's

Command truck replaced by HQ building
can build: Engineers (4 man squad with Enfields can be upgraded with Bren gun, minesweeper or PIAT, they construct all buildings and call in Infantry truck)
can also Upgrade engineers with demolitions

Infantry support truck will use the same model as HQ truck
Can build: Infantry squad (6 man squad can be upgraded with Bren gun or rifle grenades)
Lieutenant
Command squad (4 man, 1 captain with pistol and three infantry guys with Thompson's)
Infantry truck will have same abilities as the other trucks allowing fast deployment of infantry (only moveable building though)

Weapons support center will use same model as American one
Can Build: Vickers team (3 man squad with vickers MG)
Bren support vehicle (upgraded British Bren with no transport ability)
Sniper (will try and make him look native American ;D )

Tank Support building
Can build: Sherman Firefly command tank (no AT ability but required to build other tanks)
Halftrack (transport)
Sherman Firefly

Other buildings include: Triage center (you know what it does :P) and Supply depot (required to build weapons support and tank support buildings)

If you have any idea's please post them and I will try and make it a future project  if I do not have enough time hopefully someone will carry out my idea (doing my exams next month and this time next year) ;)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Desert_Fox on April 11, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
Canadian Army is already reprensented by the Artillery Command Tree in Commonwealth Faction.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 08:17:09 PM
yeah but its really only the priest guns and 17 pounders that have canadian voices  :(  I thought of this because the Canadians had a very large part to play in the falaise pocket most of their missions being vital to its success and memories from CoD 3 :P So I might not do it as a faction but maybe a reward faction or skin/voice pack  ;)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: cephalos on April 11, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Canadian Army is already reprensented by the Artillery Command Tree in Commonwealth Faction.

well not exactly. There's no "canadian" written anywhere exept of campaign.
Canadians could cooperate with Polish Army or French one ( if there was any during D-Day, not sure though  :-\ )
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 08:21:11 PM
Canadians in D-day actually had their own beach to take and You my friend have given me some idea's ;D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: cephalos on April 11, 2011, 08:22:35 PM
Personally I like the Canadian army idea. they could have Wasp Universal Carriers ( with flamethrowes, mwaahahahaha!), use sherman M4, Ram tank...
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 08:30:10 PM
I LIKE IT!  ;D replace sherman firefly with M4 and you could have the gun carrier, will have to do a little research into the Wasp though 8)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 11, 2011, 08:32:53 PM
Appreciate the post mate! As a Canadian it brings a smile to my face when others recognize the Canadian's during WW2. We were there from beginning to end. In alot of countries, the British, Americans and French are usually the focus on the allied war effort but neglect to study the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and even the Soviets (who are pretty much the reason the war in Europe was won).

Adding an entire Canadian faction would no doubt be hard and meet some criticism since they are represented in the British faction as the Artillery branch, and to a lesser extent infantry (in SP). 

Though my knowledge in balancing units in RTS games is limited, from a historical viewpoint your ideas look cool. At the beginning of the war, most of the equipment was British in origin, but as the war went on some units got some American equipment.

As with most armies at the time and now, combat engineers were a big part of front line operations. Their was one instance at the Battle of Ortona (nicknamed little Stalingrad) where combat engineers utilized tactics used by the Soviets. They'd used PIAT's to make mouseholes in walls, then assault with grenades and rush in. Their was one instance when a German paratrooper destroyed an entire building with a Canadian squad inside, killing all but one. The Canadians retaliated by destroying a building occupied by two german squads.

The native american sniper gave me a chuckle. You must be referring to Tommy Prince. He was a member of the First Special Service Force or Devil's Brigade. I wouldn't know how to balance them but that could be a special unit that can be called into battle. It was a special forces unit mixed with Americans and Canadians. They were originally trained for operations in Norway but mostly fought in Italy (Anzio) and southern France until it was disbanded. The US Special Forces (Green Berets and SFOD) and Canadian CSOR/JTF2 share historical lineage with this unit.

Again I appreciate the post, but am not getting my hopes up. And I apologize if my post got off topic with the historical viewpoints.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 08:39:58 PM
dude that is awesome I have heard the name tommy prince will do alot of research on him now thanks to you  ;) the Devil's brigade sounds really awesome too, I'm thinking of giving some of the models kilts as many scotsmen moved to canada during the 1800's - 1900's and we have similarities in regiments (we both have black watch regiments and highlanders  ;D )
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 11, 2011, 08:45:02 PM
PM me if you have need any help or questions.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 11, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
will do  :)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Sommarkatze on April 11, 2011, 10:10:20 PM
I know the whole concept about kilts being weared by soldiers its kind of awesome no doubt about it. I dont know how many times I have been writing comics/ movie scripts with scottish soldiers wearing kilts just because its so cool ^^.

However. They did wear it in WW1 . The germans was really impressed by that ^^. But during ww2 they didnt because they experiance during the first war that it aint practical in field XD.
 For exampel.

It would be cold as the ice queens heart from Narnia during winter campaignes ( Battle of the bulge for example.) I actually read about some brave man wearing his kilt during the war and he actually got killed thanks by it XD

They were retreating and had to swim over a river or something and he tangled himself up in the kilt in the cold cold river so he drowned XD Also on the backside of the kilt you got these creases you know? If these freeze they become like razorblades XD ( Not sure about that one. But I heard it from my scottish grandma lol :P)

So in the end. It would be like the SS troops running around in their old black uniforms, totally awesome but kind of unrealistic XD ( Yeah, I know its COH XD)

However. I like the idea :D In my opinion I would like to have so many differant factions as possible! :D But each faction have to be uniqe and I dont know how to make the Canadians that :C

However goodluck and dont see this post like :OMG LOL NOOB I HATE YOU XD Just something to think about ^^

Keep up the goodwork! ! :D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: cephalos on April 11, 2011, 11:32:02 PM
Kilts.... they were Scots (???, guys from Scotland), I guess...
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea\'s :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 12, 2011, 12:14:57 AM
Canada has its own regiments of highlanders and has a black watch regiment who wear kilts formed by scottish chieftains when they were forced to canada (search up the highland clearances) so it's okay for them to have kilts  :P and I'll try and make it so that one unit has kilts and not the army (perhaps the command squad) ;)

Post Merge: April 12, 2011, 12:20:10 AM
@ Sommarkatze
not gonna take the post as an insult but I have taken some advice from it  ;) and don't worry I have tigerclawstyle (who is a canadian and knows a way more about me in canadian military history) to help me with unique units  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: RedGuard on April 12, 2011, 12:20:39 AM


On the battlefield I dont think a kilt was an allowed uniform accessory for the troops?
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 12, 2011, 12:26:34 AM


On the battlefield I dont think a kilt was an allowed uniform accessory for the troops?

was just an idea to make the army unique but I'm only thinking about giving them to the officers  :P
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: cephalos on April 12, 2011, 12:54:49 AM
Make command squad with one kilt officer and dude playing on pipes xD
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 12, 2011, 12:59:58 AM
Many Scottish Regiments wore kilts in battle during WW1. During WW2 they were seen as impractical, and weren't worn after Dunkirk. However during D-Day Lord Lovat of the Special Service Brigade was followed by his piper who was wearing a kilt, onto Sword Beach (as seen in the movie The Longest Day).

Today though, they are part of the ceremonial uniforms for the Scottish Regiments of the British Army, and many of the primary reserve regiments in Canada.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 12, 2011, 05:27:37 AM
Many Scottish Regiments wore kilts in battle during WW1. During WW2 they were seen as impractical, and weren't worn after Dunkirk. However during D-Day Lord Lovat of the Special Service Brigade was followed by his piper onto Sword Beach (as seen in the movie The Longest Day).

Today though, they are part of the ceremonial uniforms for the Scottish Regiments of the British Army, and many of the primary reserve regiments in Canada.

The name of the piper on sword beach was Bill Millin.

I recall seeing pictures of Kilt clad warriors in the western Desert.
Not surprising however as 30th Corps and 8th Army were issued khaki shorts for the desert. In his memoir The General Danced at Dawn, George McDonald Fraser, (widely known for The Flashman Papers), speaks of kilts in Iraq, but I don't know if that was before or after the capture of Mosul.

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Posted by: Dapperdawg                                                       Canada has its own regiments of highlanders  and has a black watch regiment who wear kilts formed by scottish  chieftains when they were forced to canada (search up the highland  clearances) so it's okay for them to have kilts  (http://Smileys/classic/tongue.gif) and I'll try and make it so that one unit has kilts and not the army (perhaps the command squad) (http://Smileys/classic/wink.gif)

How about adding a piper using the Red Flag Strelky as a model

The 42nd Highlanders "Black Watch" attacked Fort Ticonderoga (AKA Ft. Carrillion) 1n 1756 or1757. They were repulsed by Les Voyageurs du Bois and Algonguin Indians  at the abatis. The Black watch wore kilts.

Sommerkatze You should be aware of the "Devils Brigade" 1SSF? They were an Elite assembly of American and Canadian loggers, roughnecks and Ne'rdowells trained for Airborne Ranger service. They landed at Anzio and paradropped into The South of France. They didn't wear kilts though.  ;)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 12, 2011, 06:05:49 AM
Cool, didn't know about soldiers wearing kilts in the African campaign. I suppose it makes sense though that they would bring them, either just through pride or for ceremonial purposes and the fact it was hot. Kind of off subject from the kilts, but every once in awhile I'll come across pictures of soldiers wearing their regiment/branch berets in combat situations, not necessarily the smartest thing but still brave.

Also you reminded me about how the devil's brigade used all American equipment but still answered to the Canadian Army(Canadian soldiers anyways). In game, that might be interesting, a mixed unit of Canadians/Americans with upgradeable equipment that's good at defense but even better at offensive actions.

That's something I noticed the new SAS unit in the new patch lacked. Good for assault but didn't have any special abilities.

Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 12, 2011, 06:38:26 AM
I think the 1SSF was independent of both the Canadians and USA armies. Thet Probably reported to SHAEF, if they reported to anybody: they were an unruly lot. Many Armies used American equipment during WWII, Thats what Lend Lease was all about. In Ef even the Sovs have a LL Sherman. Although mostly the US sent the Russians Trucks. This allowed the Sovs to concentrate on tank production. 1000 T34s a month!

1ssf: give 'em fire-up and call-in infiltration ability.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 12, 2011, 06:54:43 AM
Most definitely as a unit but the Canadian soldiers themselves answered and followed the Canadian Army's code of regulations as I'm sure the American's did as well. It was definitely a unique unit. The British and Germans organized units/special forces with mixed nationalities but 1SSF definitely had a different identity.

But your post definitely brings up the fact that SHAEF was in charge. The reason I brought up the equipment issue was the Canadian soldiers in 1SSF were the only ones that were using American equipment (even uniforms) completely at a battalion or divisional level.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 12, 2011, 09:18:32 AM
I'm really liking the stuff that you guys are coming up with ;D . anyway I'm gonna try and get a few sketches of them done today and hopefully uploaded  ;) .
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :use ofGUI's make sense to y'all?
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 12, 2011, 03:58:19 PM
I am a game designer. I joined the EF_community in January 2011. It took me until March to get a handle on how the DevTeam is approaching EF_Ostheer. I came on board too late to participate in the  Ostheer project, (you don't change horses in the middle of a stream), Many of my game design ideas are good but not consistent with the concepts Dragon93 is working on  for Ostheer. I don't wish to "rock the boat".

 WTF is this guy talking about?

Y'all want to make a faction. how are you going to implement your unit ideas into a CoH style game? The answer is to design a series of GUI's, (Graphic User Interface(s)). What's a gui you say? In the lower right hand side of your game screen are two matrices,  a 1x6 matrix to allow you to access the different HQ's and a 3x4 matrix to give you access to: units (=game pieces), strategies; (panzer assault, panzers support, switches); call-ins,(2 pz5 battle group), etc. the lower right corner of each gui is the staging point. it is common to all 3x4 gui's in the game, (except for the T5 auxiliary HQ. a special case)The location of the staging point is (3,4) or (3,D) in the 3x4 gui matrix; always!    capische?italian (=understanding).
If someone will assemble a list of proposed units using: the "insert list" function in the:  Post Reply page, (where you write your reply's), toolbar;  we can get started on Canadian_factionmod.

If Y'all would like my assistance in developing a Canadian Factionmod, It has to be a historical simulation. One Killer ZombieCanuck-lumberjack super-Sniper  suggestion and I'm done with the concept. I can do it using EFv1.3.1  game mechanics but I am not interested. Weird concept though.....Ehh![/]

BTW relative to kilts and the western desert; There is a famous picture of Churchill, A British commander, (Wavell, O'Connor)? and a group of Tommies frolicking in the Mediterranean Sea, on R&R. No swimming suits for Tommies or anyone else. They are all wearing Bonnetsbrit =headgear appropriate to their roles. Churchill is shown wearing only a bowler hat and a stogie of course......


Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Sommarkatze on April 12, 2011, 06:24:22 PM

Sommerkatze You should be aware of the "Devils Brigade" 1SSF? They were an Elite assembly of American and Canadian loggers, roughnecks and Ne'rdowells trained for Airborne Ranger service. They landed at Anzio and paradropped into The South of France. They didn't wear kilts though.  ;)

Yes sir Iam wery aware of the devils brigade :D There is even a whole movie about them! ( Well, it aint realistic for scheise XD)

I Think they would be an excellent call in unit ! With the abilety to upgrade to M1941 Johnson light machineguns! :D (A very fascinating weapon indeed,)

Canada is famous for having one of the greatest navys during the war also. I think they should have some abilety like that? Like Naval battery barrage or something? XD
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 12, 2011, 07:56:18 PM
Ok I have an idea, Command squad can be upgraded with:
battalion radio operator (gives squad arty barrage ability)
Piper (heroic Charge)
thats what I've thought of just now but I need one more  :-\
hope you like those 2 suggestions  8)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 13, 2011, 03:21:13 AM
Ok I have an idea, Command squad can be upgraded with:
battalion radio operator (gives squad arty barrage ability)
Piper (heroic Charge)
thats what I've thought of just now but I need one more  :-\
hope you like those 2 suggestions  8)

It would be easyier to give the ComSqd(3m sqd:2r1p): Upgrade: "The Piper"(4m Sqd:2r1p): (ability: morale, hold ground, fear, (have you ever been woken up by a nube piper at 5:30 AM? I have).

Ability: Artillery call-in  as a veterancy1 buff.  Ability: break suppression, vet2. buff.



Were Canadian commandos used during the St Nazaire Raid?

Guys I can see this as a Company Commander Doctrine choice sub-faction! for use with the RMC...... bonus faction allready in existance.

4CP call in Canadien Task force, 1 Com squad,2 inf squad, 1 M4 (didn't the Cdns have their own variant to the Sherman

2CP call in: 1SSF(5m sqd)...infiltration....upgrade: Johnson ;D .

3cp Dudlley Do Right, a boone crockett class sniper hunter .... this one might take some work, maybe just a sniper.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 13, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
from what I know there weren't any canadian commando's used in the St.Nazaire raid. But there probabaly was canadians there as well as poles, french, belgian and dutch servicemen who escaped from europe and volunteered for the commando's :) . But yeah I think we could use the RMC as a doctrine, the call in suggestions sound awesome ;D . I'm also thinking of making the 1st polish armoured division as a doctrine (like the US armoured one) as they supported the canadians during operation totalize  :)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: cephalos on April 13, 2011, 12:05:36 PM
 ;D :D :) ;D :D yeah! Gen. Maczek's 1st Armoured!
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Sommarkatze on April 13, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
Yay! The Johnson<3 :D

I think imo that the standard canadian infantry aint going to have the abilety to upgrade to Bren :o Because the British already have it so the differance between these two factions are going to be zero XD Make them Sten smgs instead :D

The riflegrenades are okey. Or maybe it could be an abilety? Like the british recon shot or what is called? XD
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 13, 2011, 06:40:37 PM
like deploy marksman? yeah that would be pretty awesome :). Done a little research and it turns out canadian infantry squads consisted of 7 privates with lee enfields led by a corporal with a sten gun (overall 8 man squad), the corporal also carried mills bombs (which shall be an upgrade ;) ) there was an LMG element in the platoon made up of 2 men (Lance corporal and private) the lance corporal had a mills bomb and a machete! :o and a big thanks to tigerclawstyle for providing me with information ;D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: GSmirlis on April 13, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
Who will do this job???
And guys how you bloody making this mods??? I have downloaded mod studio but I cant understand nothing!!! Its all Chinese to me! (not Greeks> I am a Greek :P )
Can you bloody help me??? I want to add some mods with EF mod :(
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Sommarkatze on April 13, 2011, 07:58:47 PM
Yeah! Deploy marksman! So was the name ^^ And all the men equipped with Enfields rifle is great. As a start. For the upgrade imo I think they should have stens. Its like the volksgrenadiers upgrade, everybody gets mp40 ! Wich is extremaly inaccurate because mp´s were given to nco or higher.


Its COH. It doesnt have to be 100% correct ^^ The most importent thing is balance :D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea\'s :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 13, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
I suppose so  :P

Post Merge: April 13, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Who will do this job???
And guys how you bloody making this mods??? I have downloaded mod studio but I cant understand nothing!!! Its all Chinese to me! (not Greeks> I am a Greek :P )
Can you bloody help me??? I want to add some mods with EF mod :(

to be honest mate I'm not sure how I'm gonna do this seeing as it's my first mod  :-\
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 14, 2011, 01:09:47 AM
like deploy marksman? yeah that would be pretty awesome :) . Done a little research and it turns out Canadian infantry squads consisted of 7 privates with lee en fields led by a corporal with a Stein gun (overall 8 man squad), the corporal also carried mills bombs (which shall be an upgrade ;) ) there was an LMG element in the platoon made up of 2 men (Lance corporal and private) the lance corporal had a mills bomb and a machete! :o and a big thanks to tigerclawstyle for providing me with information ;D

Don't think about 7-8 man squads:

Amis Rifle Sqdm30G(6M6R)
or
Brits Rifle Sqdenfield(5M5R)

take your pick. Its a matter of scaling and compatiblity.

I suppose so  :P

Post Merge: April 13, 2011, 09:21:36 PM

Who will do this job???
And guys how you bloody making this mods??? I have downloaded mod studio but I cant understand nothing!!! Its all Chinese to me! (not Greeks> I am a Greek :P )
Can you bloody help me??? I want to add some mods with EF mod :(

to be honest mate I'm not sure how I'm gonna do this seeing as it's my first mod  :-\

I am a game designer. I joined the EF_community in January 2011. It took me until March to get a handle on how the DevTeam is approaching EF_Ostheer. I came on board too late to participate in the  Ostheer project, (you don't change horses in the middle of a stream), Many of my game design ideas are good but not consistent with the concepts Dragon93 is working on  for Ostheer. I don't wish to "rock the boat".

 WTF is this guy talking about?

Y'all want to make a faction. how are you going to implement your unit ideas into a CoH style game? The answer is to design a series of GUI's, (Graphic User Interface(s)). What's a gui you say? In the lower right hand side of your game screen are two matrices,  a 1x6 matrix to allow you to access the different HQ's and a 3x4 matrix to give you access to: units (=game pieces), strategies; (panzer assault, panzers support, switches); call-ins,(2 pz5 battle group), etc. the lower right corner of each gui is the staging point. it is common to all 3x4 gui's in the game, (except for the T5 auxiliary HQ. a special case)The location of the staging point is (3,4) or (3,D) in the 3x4 gui matrix; always!    capische?italian (=understanding).
If someone will assemble a list of proposed units using: the "insert list" function in the:  Post Reply page, (where you write your reply's), toolbar;  we can get started on Canadian_factionmod.

If Y'all would like my assistance in developing a Canadian Factionmod, It has to be a historical simulation.

If You want to do your own mod you need to put together a development team. You can design a mod on your own but it is a bitch. I've done it. The worst part of doing a mod on your own is you lose your sense of perspective, you get blindsided and things don't turn out like you planned. You need BetaTesters, That's us for EF BTW. You Need coders,artists .model makers etc. 

So you want to do a mod
Step One: Write down a Mission Statement: Clearly state what you want to accomplish with your mod.
Step Two:.......................................to be continued,

Go to The EF DevTeam page and see how this project is organized
EF_Barbarossa will probably be complete and ready for sale in a year or two. That's right a year or two! Its all ready taken about a year and a half to get this far. "On to Berlin"


USCW day 2: The siege of Fort Sumter continues.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: RedGuard on April 14, 2011, 02:39:16 AM
after canadians how about italians?  ;D
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 14, 2011, 04:39:50 AM
after canadians how about italians?  ;D

+1
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 14, 2011, 05:23:45 AM
What Relic needs to do is make another expansion with a North African campaign and Sicily/Italy campaign. And hire the Eastern Front developers as well  :)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: RedGuard on April 14, 2011, 06:08:16 AM
I think the necessary addition of factions is almost complete.

The Soviets were a must and I think the japanese are a must as well. the possibilitys are endless
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tpcoughlin on April 14, 2011, 06:43:21 AM
What Relic needs to do is make another expansion with a North African campaign and Sicily/Italy campaign. And hire the Eastern Front developers as well  :)

I am with you 100% on North Africa.

Graziani in HQ with the Italians,Rommel with one of those bedford Mammoths As T4  from OF and a Vampire HT for a T3.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: tigerclawstyle on April 14, 2011, 07:26:16 AM
Well Relic has been knee deep in Dawn of War/Space Marine franchise for awhile now, we can only hope that they plan on diving back into COH in the future.

Bringing the Afrika Korps would definitely bring alot to the game. Not just faction wise, but map wise. Alot of focus is on what type of units we would like in factions and maps are often overlooked. Desert maps might seem boring, but alot of big and interesting battles happened in North Africa. Same goes for Sicily and Italy. Fighting and adapting in mountain ranges and valleys would be a very cool change to gameplay.

COH 2 anyone?
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Seeme on April 14, 2011, 12:57:04 PM
Giant tank battles are always fun!
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 14, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
hey guys, the idea of this just popped into my head this morning. I really respect Canada's involvement in the second world war and I thought I could put them into CoH and make it compatible with EF too. You guys interested??

Current idea's

Command truck replaced by HQ building
can build: Engineers (4 man squad with Enfields can be upgraded with Bren gun, minesweeper or PIAT, they construct all buildings and call in Infantry truck)
can also Upgrade engineers with demolitions

Infantry support truck,T1 will use the same model as HQ truck
Can build: Infantry squad (6 man squad can be upgraded with Bren gun or rifle grenades)
Lieutenant
Command squad (4 man, 1 captain with pistol and three infantry guys with Thompson's)
Infantry truck will have same abilities as the other trucks allowing fast deployment of infantry (only moveable building though)

Weapons support center T3 will use same model as American one
Can Build: Vickers team (3 man squad with vickers MG)
Bren support vehicle (upgraded British Bren with no transport ability)
Sniper (will try and make him look native American ;D )

Tank Support building T2
Can build: Sherman Firefly command tank (no AT ability but required to build other tanks)
Halftrack (transport)
Sherman Firefly

Other buildings include: Triage center (you know what it does :P) and Supply depot (required to build weapons support and tank support buildings)

If you have any idea's please post them and I will try and make it a future project  if I do not have enough time hopefully someone will carry out my idea (doing my exams next month and this time next year) ;)

I am impressed Dapperdawg, your starting to think like a game designer  8) . I took the liberty of modifying your quote a little. for my own clarity, I dont know how the link  to your post works.

1. You didn't Mention The T3 or T5 HQs. I think the HQ, T1HQ, infantry and T2HQ weapons support should be deployed from buildings, Rather then Command trucks. The T3HQ vCS and T4HQ Armor Command Trucks are very Cdn/Amis.

During the Bulge my Father in law, Dead Ed, FO 30_USNG/3 arty; came in from the North to help fortify the "Goose Egg" around St Vith. Pattons 3rd Armor division Attacked from the South to break the siege around Bastogne. Bastogne was defefended by 101st airbourne. They arrived by truck. Montgomery facilitated the coordination of the Northern flank.

Were we talking about 1SSFCdn/Amis Devils Bde earlier, this is a historical simulation right, not RomeTotalRealism_7.2.

BTW 1.Talking of North and South and Sieges. April 14, 1861 Day Three of the siege of Fort Sumter.
2. The Battle cry of the 101/506 airbourne "Currahee" is Cherokee. It means "We Stand Alone Together" When the 506 dropped into Normandy, 6/5/1944 they sported Indian warpaint and wore Mohawks, however instead of Bow and Arrow and Tomahawk they carried ......Tommyguns and Hand grenades!

I Like the Algonguin Sniper Idea  8) forget about old Dudley.

What Relic needs to do is make another expansion with a North African campaign and Sicily/Italy campaign. And hire the Eastern Front developers as well  :)

I am with you 100% on North Africa.

Graziani in HQ with the Italians,Rommel with one of those bedford Mammoths As T4  from OF and a Vampire HT for a T3.
I think EF would do a much better job Though'
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 15, 2011, 12:56:24 AM
@otto 213 thanks for the compliment :) Being a games designer/concept artist is something I kinda want to do after I've left school and done service in the armed forces (that is if I get into them ::) )
Well Relic has been knee deep in Dawn of War/Space Marine franchise for awhile now, we can only hope that they plan on diving back into COH in the future.

Bringing the Afrika Korps would definitely bring alot to the game. Not just faction wise, but map wise. Alot of focus is on what type of units we would like in factions and maps are often overlooked. Desert maps might seem boring, but alot of big and interesting battles happened in North Africa. Same goes for Sicily and Italy. Fighting and adapting in mountain ranges and valleys would be a very cool change to gameplay.

COH 2 anyone?
+1 to that  ;)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Dapperdawg on April 19, 2011, 05:08:02 PM
Right guys I have decided to make this a future project for me as I don't have the time atm :( my exams are only a couple of weeks away and I really need to start revising but after that hopefully I'll get started on puting together a dev team and all that shizz  8)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Paladin88 on April 27, 2011, 09:03:13 AM
How you thought about the doctrine trees, yet?
It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this. I just hope it's not a copy of the rather annoying Brit doctrine tree...

(5 second fuses last 3 seconds...)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: vonklaus on May 06, 2011, 07:27:49 PM
I always thought that there was plenty of British and American equipment left over for a Canadian faction. They produced there own version of American tanks M4 (Grizzly) M3 (Ram) although I dont think either saw combat because the Americans made enough Shermans for everybody. 1 Cool unit that did see combat was a converted Grizzly that they put a 20 mm quad AA gun on which they called Skink (a type of lizard) which would be cool because that would give them a unique unit in that it would have more armor than any other mobile AA. They also called their flamethrower converted tanks Skinks also though so that could be confusing.

I know that one mod is working on both French and Italian factions. Im pretty sure there is a chinese mod that has China and Japan. So besides them I would love to see Canada and I think it is the only other faction not be worked on that I know about.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: RedGuard on May 20, 2011, 10:31:25 AM
so what about the canadian arty doct?

canadians if anything should be a reward like RMC
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Tankbuster on July 13, 2011, 11:16:50 AM
Wow a Canadian Faction. Sounds awesome. Hope there will be no trenches for them. Also it would be epic to add some flamethrowers for their pioneers Burn Them.
I see that people would make a Chinese faction, a Japanese faction, even a Brazilian/Burmese faction like Australians & Americans did all the fighting in the Pacific. Seriously did everyone forget that Indians played an important part in WW2. Most people would think that before the Americans entered WW2 British soldiers fought in the Pacific. Dead wrong. All they did was send Indian soldiers to fight their fight led by a few British officers who ran away just before surrendering leaving Indians to be captured and maltreated and killed by the Japanese in POW camps. Fighting for freedom my ***.
Wow blowing steam off really is refreshing.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Otto Halfhand on July 13, 2011, 02:05:16 PM
Who can forget Hellfire Pass, Keren, Imphal, El Alamein, Monte Cassino. THe Indians arguably had the best mountain troops in the War.

Not to mention the Aryan Tiger Legion and  Subhas Chandra Bose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose)s INA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/BattleofKerenMap1941-en.svg/800px-BattleofKerenMap1941-en.svg.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/BattleofKerenMap1941-en.svg/800px-BattleofKerenMap1941-en.svg.png)
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Tankbuster on July 13, 2011, 03:47:57 PM
Otto 213 the Indische Legion is not as well known in India as the INA is. Despite what the students in Indian schools are taught about how Indian independence was singlehandedly won by Mahatma Gandhi, The Indian flag was first raised for the 1st time by the INA.
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: Otto Halfhand on July 13, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
When was the Indian flag first raised. I'd guess it was first raised in Singapore?
Title: Re: Canadian faction idea's :P
Post by: PekeT on July 13, 2011, 10:54:21 PM
Just as an idea for canadian doctrines, you could replace m7priest by sexton :)