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Title: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 02, 2011, 08:58:46 PM
Heres a rare historical reenactment of an Il-2 attack. Dont mind actors talking in Polish.
German convoy attacked by IL-2 Shturmviks 1945 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLKzj7Tvzp4#)
If you know some rare youtube videos of WWII battlescenes please post them here.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: pariah on May 02, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
They can't be that rare if they are on Youtube, can they? :D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 02, 2011, 09:24:38 PM
They can't be that rare if they are on Youtube, can they? :D
But this one must be hard to find outside Poland.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 02, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
This is actually nice. To see all the military equipment of back in the days in action (more or less :P).
Can you provide more links of those high quality WW2-action vids? Iw ould be very interested in it. :D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Dann88 on May 08, 2011, 08:29:40 AM
Luckily, the ATank HT and and car was not destroyed, we can still use them in next scenes.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: SnappingTurtle on May 08, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
Pretty cool. I always wonder how WW2 shows get their WW2 tanks and whatnot. Like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Yz5zVaVew#). Where the hell do you get a Cromwell?
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 12:52:28 PM
Mostly, replicas or vehicles of museums are used.
Btw: You just posted my favourite scene of BoB :D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Killar on May 08, 2011, 01:38:17 PM
Most of the german vehicles that are used in movies after the 50´are either reproductions or allied equipment with german crosses.

If you are interested in original vehicles of WWII follow the links:

1. List of original equipment survived still today:

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Panzers.html (http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Panzers.html)

2. Website of a known tank collector in uk:

http://www.wheatcroftcollection.com/home.html (http://www.wheatcroftcollection.com/home.html)

3. Website of a known tank collector in us:

http://www.mvtf.org/col_categor.php?vehicle=defaultimage (http://www.mvtf.org/col_categor.php?vehicle=defaultimage)

Movie with original german equipment!!!

World War II Film "TANK BRIGADE" Combat Scenes-Eastern Front-MG42 T34 Pz.IV PPSh41 Panther DP27 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwxUZwUz7Y#)

And here is the bad example:

Band of Brothers: Carentan counterattack (Super High Quality) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYFU4hXDg4#ws)

Heres a rare historical reenactment of an Il-2 attack.

This is a reenactment  :D

panzerfaust vs T 34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikT4LrUgzYE#)

Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
Nice movie, Killar! :D

You're right about the bad example.. when I watched it the first time, I saw that one of these German tanks should be a StuG, but it was build on the chassis of a Panzer 38 (t). Just crappy.
Look at this picture - it's just ugly and has actually never existed.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Killar on May 08, 2011, 02:39:54 PM
I saw that one of these German tanks should be a StuG, but it was build on the chassis of a Panzer 38 (t).

Actually it should represent a marder III which was indeed build on a Czech tank. The same vehicle was used in the movie saving privat ryan. Its on the right chassis but a reproduction from a former swedish tank (sweden did build Czech tanks under license during WWII)

The stugs you see in the scene are reproductions. 2 Stugs were build for this movie using 3 FV432 chassis. 1 was build by 2 cut chassis to represent the 6th idle wheele of a stug3.

(http://www.imcdb.org/i056758.jpg)

the other one had only 5 wheeles (like the original FV432 chassis). The original chassis:

(http://www.dbrooke.org.uk/offroad/fv432a.jpg)

The Jagdpanther in the scene (the same vehicle like in the post above by snappingturtle at 6:50) is build on a t54 or t55 tank:

(http://www.imcdb.org/i056757.jpg)

(http://m136.de/wp-content/gallery/ulrich_wrede/t55/t55mitminenpflug04.jpg)


Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
Respect, where do you know that from?

..and it's Czech, not szech ;)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Killar on May 08, 2011, 02:50:27 PM
Respect, where do you know that from?

..and it's Czech, not szech ;)
Hobby, searching different forums and sites

thx, updated ;)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 08, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
This is a reenactment  :D

panzerfaust vs T 34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikT4LrUgzYE#)
I have a friend that knows someone who participated in that reenactment.
The guy in the tank got burned becouse the turret hatch was open.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Killar on May 08, 2011, 04:01:01 PM
This is a reenactment  :D

panzerfaust vs T 34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikT4LrUgzYE#)
I have a friend that knows someone who participated in that reenactment.
The guy in the tank got burned becouse the turret hatch was open.

 :o Hope not so bad injured! What did they use for the fire?
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 08, 2011, 04:12:06 PM
:o Hope not so bad injured! What did they use for the fire?
A Molotov. ;D
And after the reenactment they all got drunk.
And the guy is fine, just minor burns.


Heres a great movie about the 1939 Winter War (and molotovs).
The end is... suprising. :D
Talvisota - Molotov Cocktail Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M8_hS0gqU8#)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 04:36:58 PM
Why the hell is he alive??
Anyway, nice little movie ;D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: IJoe on May 08, 2011, 04:40:27 PM
Why the hell is he alive??
Anyway, nice little movie ;D
Because it's a film, I think - I see no way, how a man directly sprayed from a flamethrower would live on to smoke another cigarette...  :-\
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 08, 2011, 04:56:37 PM
Why the hell is he alive??
Anyway, nice little movie ;D
Warm clothes (lots of them) and snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 08, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
I'd agree with IJoe here.. it's a film. It's kind of unrealistic that this guy burns for more than 30secs and is still alive.. His clothes would have been burned, even if there are many many layers of them :P
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: IJoe on May 08, 2011, 06:16:11 PM
I'd agree with IJoe here.. it's a film. It's kind of unrealistic that this guy burns for more than 30secs and is still alive.. His clothes would have been burned, even if there are many many layers of them :P
As I happen to know a bit about fire, his unprotected parts (open skin) would be definitely burned to the bone in a matter of seconds, so it is just a crappy movie, in that particular aspect, at least.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 08, 2011, 06:27:41 PM
I'd agree with IJoe here.. it's a film. It's kind of unrealistic that this guy burns for more than 30secs and is still alive.. His clothes would have been burned, even if there are many many layers of them :P
Less than 15secs is what I saw, and his clotes were burned.
How cold is it in Finland in january again? He had a hood could (I know I would) turn his face away when flames (was napalm invented by the US in WWII? I belive that late war flamethrowers were more dealdly) hit him.

Just remember: Stop drop and roll. ;)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: pariah on May 08, 2011, 06:31:26 PM
And dial 911. ;D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: IJoe on May 08, 2011, 06:43:35 PM
I'd agree with IJoe here.. it's a film. It's kind of unrealistic that this guy burns for more than 30secs and is still alive.. His clothes would have been burned, even if there are many many layers of them :P
Less than 15secs is what I saw, and his clotes were burned.
How cold is it in Finland in january again? He had a hood could (I know I would) turn his face away when flames (was napalm invented by the US in WWII? I belive that late war flamethrowers were more dealdly) hit him.

Just remember: Stop drop and roll. ;)
Man, did you take the basic physics course at school? You can't just "turn away" your face from the fire!
Besides, take an interest, google the temperature of the flame. And in Finland that particular year was up to -30 (some say -35) degrees celsius. Believe me, that's far from saving you from the open flame - on the contrary. But that's another basic course - anatomy.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: RedGuard on May 08, 2011, 09:54:03 PM
that guy shoulda cooked like a thanksgiving turkey!  :o
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: snailcommando on May 08, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
OT

WWII tank to leave refuge in Neva River

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[.... This is not the first tank to be found in the Neva River near the Nevsky Pyatachok. Another machine was pulled up from the depths of the river in 2003. After spending more than 60 years in water, the tank remained in excellent condition and was later restored to its full glory and was even able to run after its original engine was reassembled.

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[....The KV-1 battle tank, named after Soviet defense commissar and politician Kliment Voroshilov, was widely used during World War II. The KV-1 tanks were known for their extremely heavy armor, which was completely immune to the shells fired from the Panzer III and Panzer IV German tanks.

http://rt.com/news/tank-found-neva-river/ (http://rt.com/news/tank-found-neva-river/)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 08, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
Man, did you take the basic physics course at school? You can't just "turn away" your face from the fire!
Besides, take an interest, google the temperature of the flame. And in Finland that particular year was up to -30 (some say -35) degrees celsius. Believe me, that's far from saving you from the open flame - on the contrary. But that's another basic course - anatomy.
Stop drop and roll. Thats all. Dont try to eat the flaming gasoline, drop youre face in the snow. ::)
Basic psysics? Fire goes upwards, water is a great coolant.
You know that was a real man (stuntman) burning there with some clotes on and some antiflame gel on his face. With some luck that Finish soldier would only need new epidermis and some eyebrows.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: RedGuard on May 20, 2011, 10:28:46 AM
burn baby burn 8)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Sommarkatze on May 20, 2011, 05:08:34 PM
Just for the lolz of it and the fanboys will go crazy. I give you.

LAH Waffen-SS Reenactor team from Japan(WWII) Schwarz image video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdcN4w2NDno#)

Japanese Leibstandarte reenactors! <3

(imo this are the best guys ever)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: pariah on May 20, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
Oh my fucking god man, that was so awesome! Perhaps the most inaccurate re-enactment ever! I'm still not even sure if they were actually serious with this or not...
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 20, 2011, 05:35:47 PM
Crappy reenactment. Lazy asses didnt even park their cars few meters away behind the bushes.
Stalingrad - Part 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kb44SUcSd0#)
Those guys pulled the gun by themselves.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: IJoe on May 20, 2011, 06:09:38 PM
^^Molotovs don't make tanks explode   ::)
There were no T-34/85 in Stalingrad.
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on May 20, 2011, 06:28:23 PM
Stalingrad is a rather crappy movie in terms of historical correctnes.
Though the dialoges are sometimes quite funny (examples from the vid postet by Paciat):

"I look like my grandma!"

A:"We workers have to hold together!" B:"I passed the A-levels.."

A:"Where the heck is our artillery?!?!" B:"You are the artillery!"

About Sommarkatzes post: No comment.. it's just an opinion of Germans that is, sadly, so wide-spread.. People associate something like the Swastika, Deutschland über alles, Hitler and so on with Germany.. get this out of your head, people!

 ;)
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Paciat on May 20, 2011, 07:59:41 PM
Stalingrad is a rather crappy movie in terms of historical correctnes.
Though the dialoges are sometimes quite funny
I posted that battle only as a joke-example. Im suprised how people spend insane amount of money and then are afraid to get a little dirty or sweaty.
IMO historical reenactments are all about blood sweat and... fun. :D
Title: Re: Rare historical reenactment
Post by: Sommarkatze on May 21, 2011, 02:47:21 PM
Nawh come on XD I love it. Just a bunch of japanese guys doing what they love. Well, they are japanese but I like to pretend they are some fictional japanese voluenteer unit hehe ^^ (Their is actually a really great manga about that subject .)

Like Paciat said. Reenactments are all about blood, sweat and fun and they seem to have a lot of it ^^ They aint hurting anybody XD

So for the lulz of it. Here is another one! :D

The last day of the Third Reich 1945 Berlin part-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILK8JYm-dak#)