Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Strayker on June 06, 2011, 10:45:35 PM

Title: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Strayker on June 06, 2011, 10:45:35 PM
So i was testing some new strats and new maps and etc against the AI. Ive overhelmed him several times on several maps in first few minutes, but then miraculously he recovered and pushed me back to my base and i was almost beaten (Hard AI), until my armor came for the rescue. This has happened to me both as playing as a Axis and as Allies. So i wonder does this new AI cheat? Does he get some +1000 manpower income when hes desperate or am i just dreaming?  ???
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Killar on June 06, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
Look at the ressource income at the game stats. Ai gets double MP income ;) (at least for expert)
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on June 07, 2011, 12:14:22 AM
Hard and Expert AIs get resource bonus with the new AI. Before normal got it as well.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: CrimsonDragoon on June 07, 2011, 12:16:04 AM
How big is bonuses? Some numbers to share?
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on June 07, 2011, 12:19:30 AM
25% on hard, 50% on expert IIRC
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on June 07, 2011, 11:01:29 AM
Also the cpu always knows where you got a hole in your defense and right there it attacks.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Caen44 on June 10, 2011, 02:40:19 PM
Also the cpu always knows where you got a hole in your defense and right there it attacks.

Hi there,

don´t got that feeling that the AI is really doing that. Playing a lot of games Wehr 1:1 against sowiet AI on Hard and Expert Level and it spams wave on wave of naval soldiers at the point of the map where I got my hardest defence. No russian tanks were built in this games, no mortars, no Anti Tank infanty, no snipers...just normal infantry and commando troup and than for the rest of the game only naval soldiers. In the meantime it was easy for me to capture the other side of the map. Happened on Kotelnikovo.
Also playing americans or soviets against Wehr AI, it spams stugs till the end of game. For me it was never so easy to win a game against the AI on level hard since this last update.

Regards, Caen44.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on June 10, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
Like I've said somewhere else, AI has a hardcoded bug where it spams off-map units when it gets them.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Caen44 on June 10, 2011, 04:11:04 PM
Like I've said somewhere else, AI has a hardcoded bug where it spams off-map units when it gets them.

Hi Rizz,

what about the old THQ bug that AI is spaming Katyushas and Priests till the end of game not producing any other unit. Also that this mobile artillery is driving to enemy lines till it will be destroyed. Can you guys do anything against that?

Best regards,

Caen44.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on June 10, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Is it possible to look it or disable it for the AI at all?
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Jeff 'Robotnik' W. on June 10, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
there are methodes of doing it, im just having trouble implementing them at the moment though. dont worry, sooner or later ai off map spam should be under control
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on June 10, 2011, 10:48:17 PM
there are methodes of doing it, im just having trouble implementing them at the moment though. dont worry, sooner or later ai off map spam should be under control
yay :)
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: HyperSniper999 on June 11, 2011, 05:35:39 AM
I find the issue to be Stug spam for Wehr when BK isn't used.
Title: Re: [1.40]Does the new AI cheat?
Post by: Otto Halfhand on June 12, 2011, 02:58:08 AM
Quote from: Strayker on June 06, 2011, 04:45:35 PM (http://index.php?topic=6069.msg72941#msg72941)So  i was testing some new strats and new maps and etc against the AI. Ive  overhelmed him several times on several maps in first few minutes, but  then miraculously he recovered and pushed me back to my base and i was  almost beaten (Hard AI), until my armor came for the rescue. This has  happened to me both as playing as a Axis and as Allies. So i wonder does  this new AI cheat?
I have had the same experience with  map control changing back and forth radically 2,3 times during a game. I  think it is really refreshing and an improvement to AI in general.  (Still OP for me at expert level though).

Quote from: Caen44 on June 10, 2011, 08:40:19 AM (http://index.php?topic=6069.msg73522#msg73522)Quote from: walki1 on June 07, 2011, 05:01:29 AM (http://index.php?topic=6069.msg73026#msg73026)Also the cpu always knows where you got a hole in your defense and right there it attacks.

Hi there,

don´t  got that feeling that the AI is really doing that. Playing a lot of  games Wehr 1:1 against sowiet AI on Hard and Expert Level and it spams  wave on wave of naval soldiers at the point of the map where I got my  hardest defence. No russian tanks were built in this games, no mortars,  no Anti Tank infanty, no snipers...just normal infantry and commando  troup and than for the rest of the game only naval soldiers.
Regards, Caen44.
 
I  had the same thing happen two consecutive games on same map.  Boring,  boring ... BUT.... it gave me the opportunity to play with my mortar HT.  Every machine has sweet spots where it operates better or in the case  of CPUs optimizes the numbers effectively; (consider it as fine tuning  an old radio). If you use ranging shots with ground attack on indirect  fire weapons and observe the shot fall or craters you will discover an  epicenter around which the CPU impacts your shots. This is the sweet  spot. It is not usually the aiming point but I think there is a  relationship between your aim point and the sweet spot. I now aim mortar  ground attacks not at the target spot but offset so the sweet spot is  the target area.  When I use this AI or pvp I target choke points then  allow the mortar to free fire. My mortars vet faster. I hope I haven't  bored you to tears. If the AI cheats, then when life gives you lemons  make Daqueries