Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Otto Halfhand on June 13, 2011, 05:20:16 PM

Title: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Otto Halfhand on June 13, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
Now that EF has a deployable MG, (M1910  8) ), available for all doctrines; My wish list is reduced to Armored Cars. The lack of Lt Rcce for the Soviets is deplorable. Both the Command squad and Sharpshooter team have limited rcce capabilities. Fast moving rcce is not available to the Sovs! Either a BA64 or BA10  8) , would be fine. Combat effectiveness is not so much an issue, equivalence to PE SC performance would be OK. "Forewarned is Forearmed" Is this a balance issue?
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: GodlikeDennis on June 13, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
No this is not a balance issue. Soviets get an awesome spotter unit that doubles as one of their most powerful squads from the start of the game. He has a ridiculously large detection radius for stealth as well. Sharpshooters in observer mode have a massive LoS. Urban will soon receive a recon ability. Partisans and the sniper ace are excellent spotters. The light tanks essentially fill the role of ACs.

Soviets have no shortage of recon.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Cranialwizard on June 13, 2011, 10:27:42 PM
No this is not a balance issue. Soviets get an awesome spotter unit that doubles as one of their most powerful squads from the start of the game. He has a ridiculously large detection radius for stealth as well. Sharpshooters in observer mode have a massive LoS. Urban will soon receive a recon ability. Partisans and the sniper ace are excellent spotters. The light tanks essentially fill the role of ACs.

Soviets have no shortage of recon.

Dennis covered it.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: SuperSoca on July 01, 2011, 08:16:02 AM
Totally agree with GodlikeDennis.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Paladin88 on July 01, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
I like armored cars but Soviet light tanks are great!!! A far better unit, look Brits use Stuart LIGHT TANK as an armored car :D
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: neosdark on July 01, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
Urban will soon receive a recon ability.

A recon ability? Is it for the Partisans or is it a Recon Plane type of thing?
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on July 01, 2011, 04:38:13 PM
It's of a different kind. Something new. You will see it in time.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: pariah on July 01, 2011, 04:51:38 PM
Similar to halftracks, i think armored cars are unnecessary.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: neosdark on July 01, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
It's of a different kind. Something new. You will see it in time.

Unless that time is within this coming week, then i won't cause I'm going to the deep mountains of Pennsylvania, where i have limited Internet and no CoH. Oh well, maybe when i get back then......
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: GodlikeDennis on July 01, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
I think it's kinda final at this point so I guess I can say what it is. It's an off-map flare ability like that of Blitz doctrine in CoH:O. It makes units within it take more damage and reveals the map (not stealth).
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: vonklaus on July 01, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
aww I was hoping Ostheer would get an ability like that, but I like it.


T-70 and T-90 are cheap enough that an AC would have to be cheaper than them that it would be so cheap it would have to suck at everything but sight. Although I hate both of these tanks and would rather have a AC instead of both of them I think its not that big a deal to worry about it. I only see a t-70 1 out of 75 games and the t-90 causes more fear and panic than actual damage and it looks kind of like something out of C&C.
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: neosdark on July 01, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
Hmm, I like it Dennis, its a really cool idea. But do just the opponent's units take more damage in it or yours as well?
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Seeme on July 04, 2011, 04:45:28 AM
Does it replace anything?
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: RedGuard on July 04, 2011, 05:00:43 AM
nothing is lost
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Cranialwizard on July 04, 2011, 05:14:23 AM
nothing is lost

Err... ::)
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Blackbishop on July 04, 2011, 05:25:23 AM
Don't go off-topic guys ;D... this is about soviet ACs :).
Title: Re: 1.4.0.0 Is the lack of Soviet AC's a balance issue?
Post by: Otto Halfhand on July 06, 2011, 03:23:11 AM
Hi guys! I've looked at your comments on balance. @neodark Have a good time on your holiday. If you will be in the vicinity of THe forks of the Juniata and Susquehanna Send me a PM. The bandwidth limitations in the boondocks of PA are an OBamanation. (one of his campaign promises was broadband in every home). Alas it will probably be a broken promise.

The illumination flares would be a great idea as an active mortar ability. Sorry BlackBishop.