Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Mapping => Topic started by: BurroDiablo on June 27, 2011, 04:16:15 AM
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Historically, the Central Station of Stalingrad was a scene of intense fighting, changing hands at least 14 times during the 5 months the battle raged, at one point it changed hands 4 times in a single day.
This map is loosely based on the campaign level from Call of Duty 2 of the same name.
It's still a WIP, I have some OOB stuff to shove down and some extra detailing to do, but it should be ready tomorrow ;D
(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Elburro/CoH/maps/RRStation1/overhead.jpg)
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Download is here -
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20501003/4p_railroad_station_one.rar (http://www.gamefront.com/files/20501003/4p_railroad_station_one.rar)
To install, place the SGA in the 'company of heroes\Eastern_Front\Archives' directory
Open the Eastern_Front module file in notepad (find it in the root CoH directory)
Where you see the line [data:common:01], add to the bottom of the list underneath it - archive.27 = Eastern_Front\Archives\4p_railroad_station_one.sga... replace '27' with whatever the next number is in the sequence.
Save the module file and play!
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Great work Burro! :D
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Great job! :D
P.S. I love you're signature, and "I pity the fool" who doesn't. ;)
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Thumbs up *2,
its very nice!, but I hope you can also add a not snowing weather setting. Its sorta distracting :P
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I have no idea how to add in pickable or variable Weather conditions, but i'll give it a shot... maybe Walki can help me out...? ;D
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sure you need to create a .options file but I think Mystic-Car can do this as the Head Mapper :P. If you want a example unzip the .options file of Leningrad.
Here is a tutorial:
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=298638&mode=linearplus (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=298638&mode=linearplus)
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Nice!
do i spot the Wolga in the last picture?
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awww shit, again snow >:(
... just kidding :P
map is great Burro, I've noticed that you are making Stalingrad maps recently....
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Wow, that looks like a real shithole...
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Looks great and well balanced, I just hope you'll remove that snowing ;)
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What would you prefer? A bright sunny day? I like the snow...
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Just some fog, really. It's sometimes quite annoying seeing loads of snow falling down in front of your ingame cam. I'd like some variety in winter maps, everyone who does them things "hell yeah, there has to be snow, otherwise it's not complete". You know what I mean.
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I just think snow would be better on this map, because it helps the feeling that it is, indeed, a shithole.
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Agreed. I'd just like variety in EFs winter maps. Maybe Mystic can take a look at that.
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Nice map, moreover a COD2 based map!
Great work from what I see!
:D
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What an awesome map! You devs really are muti talented. great work.
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Map is done... it has been for a few days, just didn't get round to packing an SGA :P
One problem... for whatever reason, the Victory Point ticker doesn't budge at all... I was hoping somebody might be able to take a look and fix/reupload as I'm going to be away for a few days and don't have time to look into the problem myself.
Download is here -
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20501003/4p_railroad_station_one.rar (http://www.gamefront.com/files/20501003/4p_railroad_station_one.rar)
Also added to my first post.
To install, place the SGA in the 'company of heroes\Eastern_Front\Archives' directory
Open the Eastern_Front module file in notepad (find it in the root CoH directory)
Where you see the line [data:common:01], add to the bottom of the list underneath it - archive.27 = Eastern_Front\Archives\4p_railroad_station_one.sga... replace '27' with whatever the next number in the sequence is.
Save the module file and play!
Oh, and as an added incentive to download... I made a special loading screen that you'll only see by downloading :P
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lol! nice loading screen!! ;D
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OOOOOHHHH O.O NICE!!!
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Eh Burro did you place sp_victorypoints? Probably
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Don't think so, I used the Victory Point at the bottom of the Gameplay list. They only stopped working when I packed the SGA.
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One file has the wrong filename...
It should be called "4p_railroad_station_one_ID.scar" instead of "4p_railroad_station_one.scar" ;-)
Mystic
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Ah, thanks Mystic ;D
Can somebody change this and re-upload? Away from home for a week, so I can't do it.
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I'll do, wait a moment..
Edit: Here http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69 (http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69)
In order to play, just place the file in C:\Users\%username%\Documents\My Games\Company of Heroes\WW2\Scenarios
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And no other alterations have to be made to any files? Just plonk into the Scenarios folder?
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I did it different, the normal way. Burro included the Map in the EF folder and .module file to be loaded.
Nothing special to add then. Mine is also playable with vCOH then, otherwise just with EF ;)
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Ah coolio. I did see it when i went on vCoH, so thats awesome
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so tested the map and it looks pretty good
but i think its a bit to big for 2vs2
i think it would be better 3vs3
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so i tested the map now a couple of times
a few things
1st) i think this map should replace the old stalingrad map :D
2nd) cpu has massiv problems to capture points
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so i tested the map now a couple of times
a few things
1st) i think this map should replace the old stalingrad map :D
2nd) cpu has massiv problems to capture points
QFT. I think this is a good idea.
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1st) i think this map should replace the old stalingrad map :D
+1. I suggest to change it's name to Stalingrad, player count to 6.
The old Stalingrad map is not needed anymore..
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1st) i think this map should replace the old stalingrad map :D
+1. I suggest to change it's name to Stalingrad, player count to 6.
The old Stalingrad map is not needed anymore..
somehow the map isnt displayed ingame. I downloaded your link.
Sadly the mapper of the old stlaingrad map put so much work in it. If he focused more on the gameplay that map would be awesome. I hope parts of it can be used in the campaign.
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Then try Burros way to implement it. I checked the archive and everything is as it should be.
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Hey Maxi, if you have the time would you be able to change this map to a 3v3 and maybe run some beta tests like with Kalach? I would do it myself but I'm not around my PC for the next couple of days.
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Too many objects on this map for me, sorry I'll have to sit testing out on this one.
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Hey Maxi, if you have the time would you be able to change this map to a 3v3 and maybe run some beta tests like with Kalach? I would do it myself but I'm not around my PC for the next couple of days.
Ah I see, you're refering to my personal text :P
It would be an honour to do so. If you have any concrete wishes for me of how to put the two additional HQs or any other stuff that you want me to do, just tell me in a PM.
I'm looking forward to some nice beta testing games. Should be done by tomorrow.
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so like the other beta test games i would also test this map with you :D
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Ditto
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I took a closer look at Railroad Station One again. The map looks perfect, everything fits. The Action Marker placement is just great and I think it hits the Stalingrad atmosphere best.
Furthermore, I don't think that it should be made 3v3, it has just the perfect size for a good and balanced 2v2.
Good work, Burro.
I'm also in for testing.
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of course i wont let you down either ;)
So should we test it today?
Teams are:
Maxi & Dennis
vs.
Ape & me
06:00 forum time? thats about 3 hours from now
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Sure, why not. I think though that Burro has deserved a place rather than me because I'm neither a balancer nor did I do this map plus Dennis deserves a better player at his side than me :P
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but can you take a look at the sectors? ai has mass problems to capture pionts. this must be fixed
human players has no real problem
but the ai starts capping and stops. starts and stops... its a bit funny the need ~3min to capture a vp :D
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Investigations shall be done! Thanks for heads up, a new version (that for testing) should be there in 30 minutes.
Edit: http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69 (http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69)
I had to move several points a little to make the AI act better and make the Soviets able to build outposts on them (one point was surrounded by wooden benches, I had to move them to the side) and the middle VP was blocked by brick rubble.
Additionally, I made the stairs to the train station in the middle walkable and adjusted the position of the arnhem_posts, because they blocked a big area in front of the stairs (now they just take space of 1*1.
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about 6pm forum time
im not sure if im back home then
i will come online asap
if it will be too late for you dennis we need a replacement player for me :(
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I have to go at 6:30 forum time, so I'd be in for a game that starts not later than 5:30 forum time.
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Anything 3pm forum time to about 10pm forum time is good for me. That's middle of the day here. Of course I'll be a day ahead of you guys so when you say tonight from your point of view you mean 14 odd hours away?
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no only 8 hours away from here
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Eight hours to Middle Europe (e.g. Killar, Ape, me), fourteen to Eastern Time Zone (e.g. Cranial).
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Wait what now I'm being roped into this?
Be warned of the elephant in the room... lag lag lag
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This map shouldt run fine on your PC ;)
We will do a couple of games i guess changing teammates. Somehow i dont like the stugIII model of the loading screen. Its not the common one
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so im finaly @home
but i have seen that maxi is now away^^
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I will host a game 7:30
If Maxi doesnt play another one can take his place. If Crani is on too we might do a beta game? ;D
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7:30 as in now? Or in 12hrs time? Now is no good but 12hrs from now is perfect.
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always forum time. In 12h from now i wake up ;D
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12 Hours from now is perfect.
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I would like to see if this map as a 3v3, but only if it works well.
I think there are some problems I encountered when testing that for some reasons didn't save when I editied the map last. Some of the objects should be moved to enable better pathing like the walls and large rail crash in the centre right being removed and maybe a few carriages being exchanged for flat-beds to provide heavy cover.
Also, if you feel the resources need moved around feel free to reorganise them.
I'm still away (visiting family again) so you'll have to test without me.
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Seeme!! Job opportunity :P.
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OK, I'm ready when you guys are. Are we testing in Sandy?
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Not if Maxi is testing...But be warned
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I thought it was the 4 balance testers going at it? You, Killar, Spike and myself?
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Neither Killar nor Evilspike appear to be online...
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That was 6:14 AM in Germany.. ;)
I'm in for testing this evening if you need me.
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yes im also in this evening
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Im there too if you need me. 10:00 forum time?
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I think we're in lack of communication ::)
Why don't we make a list of available times. I'm pretty flexible so I won't put mine down until I know other people's. (I'm practically available 24/7 but I'd prefer if games weren't at 4AM or 10AM-2PM but I can totally play then.)
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pls refer to forum times. I´m avaible 05:00 till 12:00 (i think its pm now in forum time). Or 01:00 pm to 10:00 pm GMT (because i´m +2 GMT this would be 3:00 - 12:00 pm for me ;) )
There is also a "Sign in" thread in the balance section
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True...^-^ But maxi can't see that.
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Best would be 05:00 pm forum time
thats 15:00 for me, ape and maxi; 10:00 am for you; 11:00 pm for dennis
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That would be right now. I think your calculation might be off lol
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That would be right now. I think your calculation might be off lol
I mean generally. I just wondered because Dennis played far later than that.
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So should I log in?
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I'm also there in case there is a place for me.
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You might want to take my place, I should be put on reserve due to the lag that is caused on some of those bigger maps
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Game is open.
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Be right there.
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back from work
and comes online now^^
so we had now some test games on this map
what do you say guys?
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Good addition to the 2vs2 map pack. To make it 3vs3 its a bit too little and to make it 2vs2 its a little to big, so ...
There is more Stalingrad feeling and gameplay than on the actual Stalingrad map. I would keep the old map but rename Railroad Station one into "Stalingrad Railroad station"
We have then a third Stalingrad map
Minor improvements:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1203/cheroef20110810202157.png)
Can you clear the entrance to the hall? Vehicles have a hard work to get through (especially hard for PE). My panthers got killed because they couldnt move.
The crater to the left might be removed too.
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1820/cheroef20110810202221.png)
Same goes for the opposite side. Pls delete those small hills and move the VP a little bit to the right
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8889/cheroef20110810202319.png)
Thats what i told you about today. If you straighten the tracks up the most right one would be next to the big crane. (there are 5 tracks to straighten i think)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8136/cheroef20110810202358.png)
I think you can delete that little building ;). Looks very robust but i didnt think the soviets did build like this.
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/624/cheroef20110810202503.png)
There can actually drive vehicles through. Very irritating for the comp. If you made it a bit more narrow only Infantry can enter it. Like it was intended i think.
Who has spotted the little guy i painted? ;)
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Don't read this if you don't want the answer:
Last picture top left corner on the rails
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Too obvious ;D
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It's Burro working on the map :P
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The door of the tower building in the middle is favoured to one side and imba.
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Does it point to the north?
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in the minimap it points to the south.
Reduce fuel and mun in the middle to medium.
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in the minimap it points to the south.
Reduce fuel and mun in the middle to medium.
yes i think after these changes we can add it into our map pool
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Shall I do it or do you want to wait for Burro to do this? I mean it's his map..
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Shall I do it or do you want to wait for Burro to do this? I mean it's his map..
He already asked you if you could change his map to a 3vs3. So i think improvements can be done.
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Could you create kind of a list for me? I don't remember everything that has to be changed.
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Here we go:
- Pls reduce high fuel and high mun in the middle to medium fuel and medium mun
- The tower building in the middle has a door that faces south. Pls change it to face east
- Pls change name to "Stalingrad Railroad station" ;D
The other changes are in my post above with pictures
In short:
- Psl change the entrance to the hall. Delete the crater to the left and make the entrance to the left passable for vehicles
- On the opposite site there are two little hills that can be removed
- The tracks near the crane can be straighten (5 tracks)
- The building inside the hall can be deleted
- trenches are too big
Thx Maxi!
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Here we go:
- Pls reduce high fuel and high mun in the middle to medium fuel and medium mun
- The tower building in the middle has a door that faces south. Pls change it to face east
- Pls change name to "Stalingrad Railroad station" ;D
The other changes are in my post above with pictures
In short:
- Psl change the entrance to the hall. Delete the crater to the left and make the entrance to the left passable for vehicles
- On the opposite site there are two little hills that can be removed
- The tracks near the crane can be straighten (5 tracks)
- The building inside the hall can be deleted
- trenches are too big
Thx Maxi!
Everything done except of this
The tracks near the crane can be straighten (5 tracks)
because it would change too much of the maps structure and it isn't necessary for gameplay.
Download! (http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69)
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All is perfect now except the tower in the middle. I would replace that building by another one that has 2 doors facing north and south like the one on the other end in the middle. The tower building has a door that faces more to the south.
Thx Maxi :)
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Can someone post an up to date tacmap please? I think a +5FU needs to be close to the bases on each side otherwise it's too US/Sov favoured because of harassment ability.
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All is perfect now except the tower in the middle. I would replace that building by another one that has 2 doors facing north and south like the one on the other end in the middle. The tower building has a door that faces more to the south.
No, that would scratch to much on the maps design. The tower belongs to the train station, I could replace the big building by a second tower though.
/done.
Can someone post an up to date tacmap please? I think a +5FU needs to be close to the bases on each side otherwise it's too US/Sov favoured because of harassment ability.
Wait a moment.
Edit:
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2660/fuelpoint.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/fuelpoint.jpg/)
There is already a +5 fuel point next to both teams bases.
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Maxi has my permission to change whatever the map needs to make it better, although I would like to keep the tower building in the middle as it most reflects the CoD2 map it's loosely based on. This isn't concrete though... another tower or equally tall building can be used if it effects the balance too much.
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I replaced the big town house by another tower and rotated it so that it is balanced.. Doesn't look too bad, I sent it to Mystic 10 minutes ago. Download link will be updated in a few mins too.
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Great! I'll hopefully be able to play it sometime in the week ;)
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FINAL
http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69 (http://www.mediafire.com/?6o60unrqkffde69)
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Will this map be included in the next patch?
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Will this map be included in the next patch?
Yes.
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Great map. Its very balanced. When the tourney comes out, I think I may use it ;D
Like the CoD2 element in it.