PzIV. No other good tank saw action thruout the whole WWII.
If you are asking about the best tank that was designed in WWII it would be the Centurion.
PzIV. No other good tank saw action thruout the whole WWII.
If you are asking about the best tank that was designed in WWII it would be the Centurion.
Lol nope just ones that saw action, note I didnt add assault guns or Tank Destroyers even though some are on Medium tank Chassis. And Technically Cromwells and Comets are considered Cruisers which seems to be a British tank only Classification so I added them as well
Im really suprised no one has voted for the M4 Sherman, historians make such a huge deal about it being a good tank.
That poll is stupid. There is no "best" tank.Before 1943 it WAS the best tank
f.e. t34 is considered the best tank in ww2. It was a crappy tank. primitive constructed, loud, not comfortable, realiability ::), ...
but in mass numbers (easy to produce) it could dominate. So its the best tank because it was of most success?
No it wasnt. Even the soviets said the panzerIII was the better tank BEFORE the war began because of the things i mentioned before. 50mm gun could destroy a t34That poll is stupid. There is no "best" tank.Before 1943 it WAS the best tank
f.e. t34 is considered the best tank in ww2. It was a crappy tank. primitive constructed, loud, not comfortable, realiability ::), ...
but in mass numbers (easy to produce) it could dominate. So its the best tank because it was of most success?
I am surprized that T34 has just 1 point. Mine :-XI voted t34, but im not suprised at all. this is axis front forums :P
I am surprized that T34 has just 1 point. Mine :-XThats probably becouse 3 T34 were destroyed for every StugIII lost...
Thats probably becouse 3 T34 were destroyed for every StugIII lost...thats why bullets come in magazines of more than 1. t34 won the war, thats the most important stat
Soviet tanks had poor visibility, crew comfort (tired crews dont fight well) and less accurate guns.
Should Panther be on the list? Allmost every country considered it to be a heavy tank. Thats also why I chosen PzIV.I am surprized that T34 has just 1 point. Mine :-XThats probably becouse 3 T34 were destroyed for every StugIII lost...
Soviet tanks had poor visibility, crew comfort (tired crews dont fight well) and less accurate guns.
If T-34 won the war, it wasn't because was the best medium tank but because they had a lot of these. If 3 T-34 were lost to a StuGIII there were already other 7 T-34 rolling out.Thats probably becouse 3 T34 were destroyed for every StugIII lost...thats why bullets come in magazines of more than 1. t34 won the war, thats the most important stat
Soviet tanks had poor visibility, crew comfort (tired crews dont fight well) and less accurate guns.
Yep. If ease of production is a factor then the best tank of the war is the Jeep. :P ;DIf T-34 won the war, it wasn't because was the best medium tank but because they had a lot of these.Thats probably becouse 3 T34 were destroyed for every StugIII lost...thats why bullets come in magazines of more than 1. t34 won the war, thats the most important stat
Soviet tanks had poor visibility, crew comfort (tired crews dont fight well) and less accurate guns.
I am surprized that T34 has just 1 point. Mine :-XI voted t34, but im not suprised at all. this is axis front forums :P
Ha ha 19 votes later and still 0 for the Sherman. I consider it to be a lot like the T 34 in that it was Mass produce to overrun the germans and had to upgrade its gun to stand a chance against better german armour. guess there arent any American fanboys on this forum. ;)If there was a Best TD topic I would vote for M-18 - the best TD of WWII. 8)
I took M3 Lee. Because its looks cool and I like to tr0ll you guys with your t34s and panthers and all that stuff :Plol ;D
And its name is Lee. Like Bruce Lee Hajaka! :>
the only thing this polls tells me is that forum is infested with axis fanboy
is there some kind of tonnage limit because the panther was almost double the weight of a t34
thats like comparing a panzer IV to an IS-2, which are closer in weight that a t34/panther
the only thing this polls tells me is that forum is infested with axis fanboy
is there some kind of tonnage limit because the panther was almost double the weight of a t34
thats like comparing a panzer IV to an IS-2, which are closer in weight that a t34/panther
and I sometimes think that this forum is infested with narrow-minded Soviet fanboys. Eh, nevermind.
what i find stranger and a bit disturbing is that soviet mod forum has more axis fans than soviet[sarcasm]Especially since Germans have no sence of humor [/sarcasm]
I voted for the PzIV, Panther maybe is too big to be a medium tank... Its gun sure comes with a balance of accuracy and penetration, a medium amor and the sporty look (I dont know why but I always feel PzIV is a sport tank, like sport car).
thats not the reasoning behind my comment, and,
sorry you perceive that as drama I perceive it as a fact. if facts start drama maybe theres something inherently wrong in the situation
if you dont think its odd then I dunno what to tell ya
the only thing this polls tells me is that forum is infested with axis fanboyAs a part of the Developer team you shouldnt do such comments. When you say that you show clearly that you're a soviet fanboy. It then tells me a lot about the balance of the soviet faction...
Yep, take it out in the field and it will brake down or get stuck in mud. Thats why Panther cannot be the best WWII tank. It was too unreliable.I voted for the PzIV, Panther maybe is too big to be a medium tank... Its gun sure comes with a balance of accuracy and penetration, a medium amor and the sporty look (I dont know why but I always feel PzIV is a sport tank, like sport car).I have similiar feeling when looking at Panther.
Oh common, when you drive a cool sport car (or sport tank :)) do you care about its nationality? When something is cool, it's cool because it's cool that's all.and The Panther kited the T-34
To me, it seems like ALL german tanks were attentionwhores when it comes maintenance. Always seems to breakdown. Otherwise they were great imo.
Panthers were needed asap for Kursk despite they were still far from finished. Thats the reason of the early breakdowns (the weight was much higher than planned) and engine fires.They should be fielded in 1945. Then Germans wouldnt have problems with them... becouse the war would allready ended. ::)
That makes no sense. What are you trying to tell me?Panthers were needed asap for Kursk despite they were still far from finished. Thats the reason of the early breakdowns (the weight was much higher than planned) and engine fires.They should be fielded in 1945. Then Germans wouldnt have problems with them... becouse the war would allready ended. ::)
At Kursk Panthers brand new broke down so it wasnt a maintenance problem, it was a design problem. When Germans fixed those problems maintenance problems apeared.
I think he said they messed up designing them, and when the design flaws were finally worked out they still broke down anywaysigh^^
superior german engineering
I think he said they messed up designing them, and when the design flaws were finally worked out they still broke down anyway
superior german engineering
yeah superior alright, it won the warI think he said they messed up designing them, and when the design flaws were finally worked out they still broke down anyway
superior german engineering
Actually, Panther(and Tigers) were fixed and most of the breakdowns were due to beeing overused, because of vehicle shortage. Still Soviets lost many tanks due to failures like 2men turrets and no radios.
superior soviet engineering
theres story books dedicated to how axis tank crews tried to drive up a small hill with a light breeze and the tank broke down :-XCan you show me these story books?
Scrapped or sold to nations around the world like the Russians did with theirs. Many Israeli tanks are based on the M4 Sherman I believe.Who would buy the M4s unless they were for free. Also Wikipedia says that they were used for farming. :o yep farming.
I heared a story where 2 Wespe were used for farming after the war... cause they war free.Scrapped or sold to nations around the world like the Russians did with theirs. Many Israeli tanks are based on the M4 Sherman I believe.Who would buy the M4s unless they were for free. Also Wikipedia says that they were used for farming. :o yep farming.
I want a Su-85 for free :(What would you do with it?
I thought Shermans were used in Korea? At least some :oWhats strange about that? They were realiable tanks that could be upgunned easiely.
Sherman M-4 (Sherman degem Bet prior to 1956) - Israeli designation of any Sherman model armed with the 105 mm howitzer M4.
If I have a Su-85, I'll drive it, use the gun to ram the door house of a girl and ask her a dinner. I'm sure she won't deny my invitation :D.Hmm, I remain Skeptical.
Did the US use shermans in vietnam war? I heard some of US inf still use thompson in early part of the war :PThe Thompson was an excellent SMG. It could have been used. Not a chance for the Sherman. The US already had M48 Pattons
I dont think they used the sherman in the same way they did in WWII, if it was used at all it was probably a howitzer variant for indirect fire mobile arty, or dozer for construction/demolition.Howitzer?
OOh! love the comic. Say did the Germans read these comics when they were bored in their tanks.Not unless they had a time machine and could read Japanese. BTW that's my buddy Otto in the Comic.
Read the comic. It is written in English. It is about the Tiger. So it has a higher chance of being originally written in German rather than Japanese. However, the Germans must be busy destroying Shermans(did I rap) to get enough time to read them.OOh! love the comic. Say did the Germans read these comics when they were bored in their tanks.Not unless they had a time machine and could read Japanese. BTW that's my buddy Otto in the Comic.
http://www.world-tank-museum.com/panzertales.html (http://www.world-tank-museum.com/panzertales.html)
Q1. How many of the tanks in this poll would be excluded From EF by virtue of the "Units that will never be in EF criteria poster"?
Q2. Isn't the 40 M Turan a tank destroyer?
OOh! love the comic. Say did the Germans read these comics when they were bored in their tanks.Not unless they had a time machine and could read Japanese. BTW that's my buddy Otto in the Comic.
http://www.world-tank-museum.com/panzertales.html (http://www.world-tank-museum.com/panzertales.html)
Q1. How many of the tanks in this poll would be excluded From EF by virtue of the "Units that will never be in EF criteria poster"?
Q2. Isn't the 40 M Turan a tank destroyer?
(If I ever get a girlfriend.. AGAIN (nawh..) Iam going to read that book with her in hopes he gets into tanks<3)
The 40 M Turan is just a regular Medium tank that had a 40mm gun, not neatly strong enough to be on a TD
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles(bis)/Hungary/Tanks/Turan1-40M/Left-bis.jpg)
Isnt it a little too heavy for the foreign tanks?
We have PzIII for that. Dont think Ostheer will ever need a slow tank with a puny gun in late game.Isnt it a little too heavy for the foreign tanks?
It also lacks the penetration and the damage of "Heavier" tanks like Shermans and P4s. This would act like a heftier and more slow version of a Stuart or T70
я считаю, что т34 best of best самый массовый(интересный факт: немцы с 1939-1945 изготовили 23000 танков,а в СССР на одном заводе <УРАЛ ВАГОН ЗАВОД> изготовили с 1941-1945 только одних т34 28000 штук), орудие тоже отвечало задачам которые перед ним ставили.
The Brits Churchill call in is heavier, slower, and has a 40mm gun (they call it a 2 pdr) just like the 40m. The latter is twice as fast, but has half as much armorNo, Churchill has a (Mk IV version) 6pounder (OQF 57mm). Tetrarch has a 2pounder.