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Title: Whats yours?
Post by: RedGuard on July 05, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
greeting comrades, this was probably done before but im doing it anyway  :)

1. whats everyones favorite/primary faction, and why
2. whats your secondary faction
3. your least favorite

lets try to keep it short and sweet we dont need an autobiography about you :)
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1. soviets, because im a steamroller type player at heart
2. american, oldskool  8)
3. wehr is my least favorite probably because their always my enemy  :P
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: DrRockzo1986 on July 05, 2011, 08:34:54 AM
ok im game ;D

1. Americans, I love spamming M4s using Armor Co. (not just Jumbos)
2. Panzer Elite, Nashorn lol.
3. Wehrmacht, I just dont think Im any good with them
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Dann88 on July 05, 2011, 08:52:54 AM
1. The Panzer Elite, that's my first-loved faction in Coh.
2. Soviet, The blackguard vet 3 Naval inf and the IS-2s shoot tigers like shoot paper tanks (when I'm the Wehr vs AI Expert).
3. I dont hate any factions but I hate those guys who play as brits and only build A LOT OF emplacements.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Chancellor on July 05, 2011, 09:17:14 AM
1) Wehrmacht as my favorite; the only faction that can do anything without a doctrine, and very consistent throughout the whole game.  Has well rounded units regardless of whatever tier (2 or 3 or 4) the player first chooses to go that can counter any type of threat they may face.

2) American as my second favorite; strafing run = win!

3) I hate Brits; even RMC.  Bus humping resource points all day is just low...
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Tankbuster on July 05, 2011, 09:23:28 AM
1)Panzer Elite - Assault grenadiers, Tank busters,Panther Battlegroup. 'nuff said
2)Soviet Union - I Just love the way conscripts burn everything
3)Brits suck - "their armor is like toys" - wehr halftrack driver
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Dann88 on July 05, 2011, 09:43:08 AM
Haha :D, the wehrmacht indeed is the most flexible faction in CoH (that's what I think) but they're required some experiences first. Althought the first edition I bought is OF, and later is gold to have full factions but I think the PE is the first faction everyone should play (most new guys use their inf units crush blindly to the HMG until they're pinned or worse, play PE is the best way to let them make them see that mistake and the way to fix it faster) then the wehr. You play the Werh smoothly, you can play/become familar other faction better/faster. I dont like the wehr best but I respect them much to build tatics and strategies (not because they're nazi/german blah blah blah).
That's is what I say, from when I'm a newbie until what I'm now. Sorry for bad english, first post Im writing too long, but have someone think like me (Yauz) make me... feel exciting.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: cephalos on July 05, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
time to go against all...  8)

1. Brits - from the very beginning of OF I just fall in love in Brits ( I just like British nation, I have no clue why - if you are brit, I like you! ). ofc me nad my mates were poor as hell, so we had those 'unregistered' copies, and played again and again against ourselves ( we are both kind of campers, sorry lads). That's why I liked brits. And Cromwell is my favourite allies tank, and Enfield No.4 is sooo awesome rifle. I think that explains everything.

2. Wehrmacht - due to their equpment awesomness - Tiger tanks, MG42s, MP44s, loads of other great stuff. Though I still get my ass kicked when I play Wehr.

3. Both PE and US. Maybe US even more. I hate this powergaming, where victory is sooo important :/ and I just hate this pointless fuel race with US. On the other side PE is one of those hit-and-run factions, and often my attacks end on 'hit' because there is nobody to run later... and I hate those paper-made armoured cars, halftracks and other stuff.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on July 05, 2011, 12:48:51 PM
So here is mine:

1.) Panzerelite because it's an offensive faction with nice and strong infantry units. I like the factions design because it's not that easy to play like Wehr, furthermore you have interesting units like Vamp and Berge.
Tanks aren't that great, but that doesn't matter due to the doctrine choices (Nashorn/88, Hetzer/JP 4, Jagdpanther, double Shrecks) and of course Marder.

2.) Soviets because of their interesting infantry, T-34 and all those lovely tanks. Not to forget the nices doctrines.

3.) Brits. Because they are lame.. At least the vCOH ones, RMC is something entirely different.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: pariah on July 05, 2011, 04:32:51 PM
...Wasn't the Nashorn a reward for the Wehrmacht Flak 36? ???

Anyway:
1) Wehrmacht, because i find them to be the most flexible, especially at the beginning of the game. Plus they have some really nice late-game infantry.

2) Either Americans or Panzer Elite. I much prefer the Panzer Elite for the most part, but their veterancy system is so shit...

3) Brits, by far.
A. Their tech system (3 tech levels instead of 5, and without much room to move) makes them rather boring to play as.
B. Their vet system (needing officers around to be effective in combat) and their healing system (paying to heal around a small area) pretty much forces you to blob.
C. They are so fucking expensive! Seriously, why the fuck are they so expensive? As a defensive faction, they will be holding the least territory for the most part, which means less resources, so they should get cheaper units than the other factions!
D. They lack effective infantry anti-tank, but so do the Americans (non-doctrinally)...
E. Kangaroo Carrier...

Sorry for raging a bit about the Brits, but i can't help it whenever they come up...
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on July 05, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
...Wasn't the Nashorn a reward for the Wehrmacht Flak 36? ???

Nope, it's a reward unit for PE FlaK 36. ;)
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Dzierzan on July 05, 2011, 05:49:31 PM
1.WH
2.WH     Because no one can beat german armor  8)
3.WH
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: neosdark on July 05, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
I can beat it with my endless Sticky spam

Anyway I use
1)PE- Cause this is my favorite and personally most efficient faction (till the Ostheer that is)

2)Americans- Rifle and Sherman Spam FTW

3)Soviets!!!!!!- Cause I'm a Soviet by blood and it is the best and most awesome faction ever made
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Green on July 05, 2011, 07:04:06 PM
1. Wehrmacht-Best units for my play style
2. Soviet-Most unique allied faction
3. Panzer Elite-I just can't get a hang of them
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Desert_Fox on July 05, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
1) Wehrmacht because:

1) Wehrmacht as my favorite; the only faction that can do anything without a doctrine, and very consistent throughout the whole game.  Has well rounded units regardless of whatever tier (2 or 3 or 4) the player first chooses to go that can counter any type of threat they may face

2) Americans in 1v1, I like play with Airborne doctrine (Rifleman + dropped AT FTW!  ;D)

Panzer Elite too, I have big satisfaction winning with a UP faction.
And I love its units.  :D

3) I hate vanilla Brits with all myslef, lamer faction, designed only for players noob with other nations.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Gogo on July 05, 2011, 07:15:49 PM
1.PE,cuz i started with them and they are the most interesting to play ( jagdpanther and hetzers <3 )
And i guess im the only one who loves their vet system  ???
2.Wehr,ofc im a german fanboy  :)
3.Brits,they are soo ugly  :-\,i hate camping games so boring no funn in them.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Seeme on July 06, 2011, 01:41:04 AM
Soviets, Cause Partisans Rock

Brits, if played right, can be a awesome fraction. They just have to take away the sandbags and add more treads and boots.

PE. Though fun to play with, I don't like them personally. They are way to serious, anyway.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Otto Halfhand on July 06, 2011, 02:11:16 AM
I like PE best. They are the most fragile of factions, but have the greatest potential strength. The Tech system is structured to provide the widest array of counters with the least amount of buildings. The lack of a good MBT is the only drawback, but then I'm an armor fanboy. @GoGo: I like the PE vet system too.

The Sovs are the best designed faction IMHO. THe faction especially benefits by not being restricted to the Sainted status of vCoH factions. Problems can be fixed and innovative features tried out.

WM is my least favorite faction. Primarily I dislike the fact that it was designed to be an AI faction with all the little buffs needed to make the AI viable against Humans. I hate the concept of buying vet.

@ Pariah: +1. You are the first person I have come across on these boards who seems to understand the difference between a Rant and a Rave!  :-*
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Paladin88 on July 06, 2011, 03:14:05 AM
1) Brits, I find them funny, though they have a lot of critical weaknesses.
2) Ami, Rangers lead the way!
3) Wehr, it's ugly and OP (why doesn't Ami have a bloody MG in their barracks everyone knows MG .30 cal is an infantry man's weapon!)
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: GodlikeDennis on July 06, 2011, 04:45:42 AM
I like Wehr, US and Soviets equally.
I somewhat like PE but hate a few of their design flaws that cause critical weaknesses.
I like Brits least of all, while still liking them a little. They're just not as fun to play as/against as the others.

Overall, I pretty much like all factions and don't groan when I play as/against any of them.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: HyperSniper999 on July 06, 2011, 06:02:55 AM
1. Wehrmacht (I got really attached to them, plus I love their variety and strong armor. And go Knights!) 
2. Soviets (Of course!)
3. Americans (Bad starting experience with them, never understood their strategy)
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Paciat on July 06, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
Brits of course. ;D The only fraction that undertands that heavy tanks should be ugly - Churchills are so ugly they shock Germans.  And those who wont retreat are eaten alive by the Churchills jaws of freedom (mine plow). 8)
The emplacements are great. They are too weak to spammed but they can influence the battlefield greatly at certain situations.
Radio triangulation guided artillery is great. The whole operation of placing those radio detectors needs some planning and 2 quads of expensive infantry at the oposite ends of the map... but it pays of when you welcome those sneack attackers with a preplanned defense.

The worst fraction is the Wehrmacht. Insanely cheap Pios, Camping MGs, camping PAKs, camping bunker strategy with camping shreck AT infantry that can take on most normal infantry ingame, OP call-in artillery, OP camo x2 Shreck squads. I also hate that Ostwinds are so powerfull and cost same fuel as T-17. With all those PAKs and Shrecks on the field theres no reason of building a PzIV instead of an Ostwind. The only really fun units are Volks and T3 units (not Gwagons).
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: pariah on July 06, 2011, 06:05:10 PM
Churchills are so ugly they shock Germans.
Ah, so that's how Tank Shock works. :D
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on July 07, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
Ohh tough question.

I enjoy playing all of the factions for different reasons.

1. probably the soviets, apart from being able to hold their own with non-doctrinal units they have a very interesting way of playing, plus having an allied armour piece that can go in a slugging match head on with German armour is a nice change. (bad micro i know :P)

2. Panzer Elite oddly enough. I like the fact it's a challenge to play as them, i really need to think carefully how i use them and the stg 44s are heavenly against soviet inf. :)

the other three factions are okayish but i have to confess i struggle as US, without using doctrine units they're tricky to play as i find but idk.
Wehrmacht for me are foolproof some straightforward strategies for them right from the start, but perhaps a little..drab?

Vanilla brits obviously are horrible. the adapted RMC reward from this mod actually makes the brits playable, plus radio triangulation is such a huge advantage in the right area. still interesting to play as in their own right and i appreciate the deviation from the norm of using trucks instead of buildings for base production. even if it is a little flawed.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: RedGuard on July 08, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
i struggle as US,  they're tricky to play as i find but idk.

the american faction is actually the easiest to play with and the learning curve is easy to grasp but winning with them is very difficult  ;)

check out the link in my sig to see why
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Sommarkatze on July 08, 2011, 02:30:32 PM
1- Wehrmacht all the way. The infantry of that faction has so many characters! We got the oldfuks Volksgrenadier, the hard though grenadier and the samurajs of the third reich knight cross holders? XD

2- PE. I really do love PE, but Iam more of a support player so I let the other player be PE and I back him up :3

3- SU. Super tanks, Super infantry, Super artilleri. Not fun fun fun fun.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Pac-Fish on July 27, 2011, 05:04:39 AM
1: PE or Wher - PE units say interesting things in the rain ^^. Also I like the concept of how they work(fast + mobile) and their fallschirmjagers. I also like Wher tanks and doctrines.

2: Soviets - For some reason I like conscripts. If you micro them well they're fine IMO. Also like sniper ace.

3: PE or British - I dont like having to deal with enemy PG spam and playing vs. Brit can be annoying sometimes.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: vip3r20 on July 27, 2011, 04:41:10 PM
First post :-)

1) PE - Good defenses (Luftwaffe Doctrine) and if i wanna play offense they fit the role again very nicely. Very versatile faction

2) Russians/ Wehr - Russian tanks rock and alot of choices to make, Wehr veterancy rocks and again very good mixture of units

3) Americans - I dont like infantry that much, their tanks are cookie cutters and their defense is not that great either. Also their Fuel-usage is really high compared to what you get back for it....

Even the brits got imo better tanks than US (not counting persing).. Firefly (with a spotter very deadly). Cromwell compares to Sherman for me (non upgraded). And the reward tank wich you can replace the firefly with is also quite sturdy.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Ryxxen on July 27, 2011, 05:46:24 PM

1, Pe with the hummel and schored earth

2, Britt with arty

3,Wh against Su becouse they have the best anti infanrty
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on July 27, 2011, 10:48:15 PM
1. Ostheer, coz I partially designed them :3
2. Americans, coz they are the first faction I really played (CoH 1.0!), and got to over rank 10 with. The only faction I consider myself being good at (or at least used to be).
3. Brit (none-RMC), coz gamestyle just don't fit me.

Edit:
Added reasons to 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Tankbuster on July 28, 2011, 08:11:22 AM
Please don't say Ostheer. We haven't tested it yet.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Seeme on July 28, 2011, 09:50:06 PM
Well, he has can play with the ostheer, so I think he can pick it ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Tankbuster on July 29, 2011, 06:55:53 AM
A horribly unbalanced and potentially OP faction as of now. When in Redguard coming back?
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on July 29, 2011, 07:59:07 AM
A horribly unbalanced and potentially OP faction as of now. When in Redguard coming back?


Who says they are horribly unbalanced? Anyway I'm counting the powerness of a faction when deciding if I like it or not, I decide based on my gameplay experience.

Anyway, RedGuard was put on a temporary suspension for a week IIRC, for destructive behavior.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Cranialwizard on July 29, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
A horribly unbalanced and potentially OP faction as of now. When in Redguard coming back?


Who says they are horribly unbalanced? Anyway I'm counting the powerness of a faction when deciding if I like it or not, I decide based on my gameplay experience.

Anyway, RedGuard was put on a temporary suspension for a week IIRC, for destructive behavior.

Due to his whining on GR.com I dunno if he plans on returning.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: BurroDiablo on July 29, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
He was whining over at GR? Ha, what topics?
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: pariah on July 29, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664)
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: BurroDiablo on July 29, 2011, 04:32:15 PM
I found it, but thanks :P
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on July 29, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Enough offtopic. Back ontopic!
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Killar on July 29, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
1. Wehr and Soviets. Because it is fun to play them

2. PE much more difficult to play but fun too

3. Ami and Brit, because i have no "feeling" for these factions. Playing them is like touching a cold wall
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Rikard Blixt on July 29, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
Just deleted 6 off-topic post. Please guys... : )

Edit:
just removed a 7th...
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: WartyX on July 29, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
Favourite: British - I've always been a turtle in RTS games.
Secondary: Ostheer - just because they're awesome! You guys are missing out.

Don't really have a worst. All the remaining factions have their merits and I don't dislike any of them.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Darkjolly on August 05, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
1: Brits, probably because Im half brit anyways. Plus their infantry section and staghounds kick ass and trenches really are good at defending points.

(One entrenched bren gun infantry, one entrenched sapper piat squad and  casualty center behind for healing can be a formidable defense), but of course I prefer a lot more the RMC.

2: Soviets, ISU 3, Double flamethrower ingenry, Zis support gun with upgrade and COCKTEL MOLTOVS!! What more can you need?


3:PE, To fragile and I dont like always hitting and running, it get repetetive and a pain in the neck having to chase those damn mortar tracks
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Dot.Shadow on August 07, 2011, 02:33:06 PM
1. Soviets - They're unique. Different from all the other factions, and I like that.
2. Panzer Elite - They used to be very good, but they're taken too many nerfs to armour and HP to be that great.
3. Americans - They're way too squishy.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Crinkle on August 09, 2011, 10:13:46 PM
1- RMC Brits, you guys did a great job with this one
2- Whermacht, I love the vet system as it gives you a decent edge in battle
3- America, i just can't seem to fathom how to play and what tactics to employ to gain an edge in early game
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: XzarTheMad on August 11, 2011, 12:33:03 PM
My favorite faction is probably Wermacht. I love their adaptability, and how they make use of fewer but stronger troops. On the whole, I find Blitzkrieg to be somewhat OP (at least in the vanilla game) thanks to invisible, super-grenade throwing, double-panzerschreck-wielding elite stormtroopers and perhaps the best anti-infantry tank in the game (StuH). They also have my favorite tanks, the Panzer IV (looks badass with those armor skirts!) and the Tiger.
My second favorite is a tie between American and Panzer Elite. I find the PE to require a good understanding of the map and the enemy faction, thus making them harder to learn but all the more satisfying to use. In truth, hardly anything can stand up to fully maxed assault grenadiers, especially if you back them with a munitions- and infantry halftrack. Americans are great for their versatile forces, but often they seem to rely too much on spamming Rangers. The caliope is one of my favorite artillery pieces, despite their effectiveness being somewhat questionable. The american Reward units are a right arse, though, with the AC losing its MG and the Wolverine becoming a poorer pseudo-ambush vehicle. Meh!

My least favorite are the British, but that's not saying much. Generally, what ruins the Brits for me is their lack of any real AT-weaponry. Yes, they have a nasty emplacement, but it is expensive as all hell, cannot be moved and takes up about ten times as much space as a regular AT gun. Their slow infantry gives them a boring early game for me, as I rely mostly on just running my Bren around trying to cut off enemy pioneers while my troops saunter lazily towards their destination. Using their Churchills are quite fun, though, especially when you order the croc to hull down in the middle of their base facing their HQ. Hilarity ensues.

I've yet to play enough EF to really get a good grasp of the SU, but they remind me a lot of the Imperial Guard from the Warhammer 40k universe - a ton of cannon fodder troops, an officer surrounded by bodyguards who lead the troops into battle and some truly magnificent tanks. On my part I have yet to learn how to truly appreciate the light russian tanks, as they seem to lack the MG I'd want to deal properly with infantry (which is the role of a light tank if you ask me). But I can see myself getting to love them, at least on the same level as the PE and Americans.

This was a long reply. Oh, man.
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Tankbuster on August 11, 2011, 06:11:17 PM
Easy with the thesis man.
(Take it with a grain of salt, will'ya.)
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on August 11, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
My favorite faction is probably Wermacht. I love their adaptability, and how they make use of fewer but stronger troops. On the whole, I find Blitzkrieg to be somewhat OP (at least in the vanilla game) thanks to invisible, super-grenade throwing, double-panzerschreck-wielding elite stormtroopers and perhaps the best anti-infantry tank in the game (StuH). They also have my favorite tanks, the Panzer IV (looks badass with those armor skirts!) and the Tiger.
My second favorite is a tie between American and Panzer Elite. I find the PE to require a good understanding of the map and the enemy faction, thus making them harder to learn but all the more satisfying to use. In truth, hardly anything can stand up to fully maxed assault grenadiers, especially if you back them with a munitions- and infantry halftrack. Americans are great for their versatile forces, but often they seem to rely too much on spamming Rangers. The caliope is one of my favorite artillery pieces, despite their effectiveness being somewhat questionable. The american Reward units are a right arse, though, with the AC losing its MG and the Wolverine becoming a poorer pseudo-ambush vehicle. Meh!

My least favorite are the British, but that's not saying much. Generally, what ruins the Brits for me is their lack of any real AT-weaponry. Yes, they have a nasty emplacement, but it is expensive as all hell, cannot be moved and takes up about ten times as much space as a regular AT gun. Their slow infantry gives them a boring early game for me, as I rely mostly on just running my Bren around trying to cut off enemy pioneers while my troops saunter lazily towards their destination. Using their Churchills are quite fun, though, especially when you order the croc to hull down in the middle of their base facing their HQ. Hilarity ensues.

I've yet to play enough EF to really get a good grasp of the SU, but they remind me a lot of the Imperial Guard from the Warhammer 40k universe - a ton of cannon fodder troops, an officer surrounded by bodyguards who lead the troops into battle and some truly magnificent tanks. On my part I have yet to learn how to truly appreciate the light russian tanks, as they seem to lack the MG I'd want to deal properly with infantry (which is the role of a light tank if you ask me). But I can see myself getting to love them, at least on the same level as the PE and Americans.

This was a long reply. Oh, man.

Not too long post though. nice to see your reasoning as well.
the soviet light vehicles can give  PE player a headache. :D
Title: Re: Whats yours?
Post by: Cranialwizard on August 11, 2011, 10:05:29 PM
My favorite has got to be the Wehrmacht, but not hands down. I am most familiar with the Wehrmact, and they have so many options when it comes to divisions such as AT, Arty, Tanks, etc. Hands down they are the most versatile faction. Their flexibility when it comes to armor is also quite nice and this faction supports 100s of strategies. (To name a few, Piospam-T2, T1-T3 Blitzkrieg, Medic Bunker Grenspam, so on so forth)

Second favorite is a close run, but it ends up to be the Soviets. Their upgrade system is unique and they have a nice sensibility when it comes to tanks. The doctrines are also quite nice as well, and they have a nice array of upgrades to squads. This doctrine also supports a vast array of different types of strategies because you can build your buildings at any time (Similar to the PE) and your upgrades are pick and choose for global. (Also similar to PE)

I really do not have a "Least Favorite", I like all the factions, but I believe my weakest faction to me is the British. The commonwealth is too blobbed and static for my typical style of gameplay, I don't like putting my truck too close to the front... (You don't know how many players I've decimated in automatch by putting a simple MG near their truck with some volks, a bike, maybe a sniper, and a flame pio to kill the truck...) Their late-game armor, like the Americans, is also pretty lack-luster. Fireflies are a hell of a powerful but their armor is paper thin, Grenadiers or Tank Busters can punch through it like nothing. To me the most effective doctrine by far is the Royal Engineers for this reason.