Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Other discussions (Read-Only) => Off Topic => Topic started by: Curitibano on July 15, 2011, 07:10:22 PM
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Hi guys, how are you... first of all I'm new in thes forum and I'm a brazilian so that's Why my topic title is this... I'm study Military History at my University and I come here to share some military history with you...
BRAZILIANS AT WORLD WAR 2... THAT'S RIGHT... We did fight too... after some U-boots did sink some of our merchant ships in our own coast.
1942 - president Vargas declare war on Germany and Italy and them began the recrutement.
July 1944 - we send a few more tham 25.000 men (a Infantry Division) to fight at Italy, side by side with the 5th Army of General Mark Clark.
now some links and pictures =D
link in english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Expeditionary_Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Expeditionary_Force)
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?2187-Brazilian-Expeditionary-Force (http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?2187-Brazilian-Expeditionary-Force)
photos:
- Brazilians trainning with a Bazzoka: (http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/16645-2/pracinhas.jpg)
- A book talking about the BEF: (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8500/febosprey.jpg)
- Our Pilots:(http://www.blog.1500brasil.com.br/wp-content/gallery/herois-brasileiros/sante-a-pua.jpg)
- and a few engginers cleaning a road in Italy: (http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachments/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/24488d1281544417-s-w-1917-remembering-brazilian-expeditionary-force-soldier-03.jpg)
I think that's it... I hope you guys like of this topic... Any questions just talk with me here in this topic or by e-mail...
Bye for now... see ya
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That's very interesting, Curitibano! Thanks for sharing :D
Do you know about the vehicles/tanks they used? Only American ones or also British?
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No, just light american vehicles. As the Italy terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks, brasilians did use only greyhounds, jeeps, trucks and few M3 Stuars to make some recognition of terrain...
I'll try to find some pictures of the vehicles:
this is a model: (http://www.theairplanecollection.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/Hobby_Master_Armor/HG3808.jpg&lr=t&bw=300)
Some of the Stuarts I was talking about: (http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/386425-4/PhotoBrazilM3LightTanks)
this site have some photos of brazilian troops in Italy... http://www.ww2incolor.com/brazil/ (http://www.ww2incolor.com/brazil/) =D
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No just light american vehicles. As the Italy terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks, brasilians did use only greyhounds, jeeps, trucks and few M3 Stuars to make some recognition of terrain
ITaly terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks,so that means that had some of mediums and heavies or not ?
Pretty interesting if they did :)
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Well... Tanks in Italy... we have the 1st American Armored Division there and the brazilians was a "Infatry Division"... so no we didn't have tanks =D just armored cars
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president Vargas
;D ;D ;D
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president Vargas
;D ;D ;D
Funny Isn't it ???
president Getúlio D. Vargas (on left) with Franklin Roosevelt >
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Vargas_e_Roosevelt.jpg)
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This is president (Angry Joe) Vargas:
(http://angryjoeshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ConBravo_02_SITE.jpg)
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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk very funny ;D ;D ;D ;D
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How was it with their equipment? I know they mostly wore American gear and such but anything pure brazilian? Like differant jackets or so? It looks like they all are having american uniforms but with brazilian insigna am I right? ;o
Always fun to learn more. Thanks ;D
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Well... as we were a little poor country we didn't have any factory to built weapons and larger equipment of war. Our uniform was very similar to the "grey-olive" of the germans... In fact, when brazilians arrive in Naples, at July 1944, the population confused htye with german prisioners... later the civilians saw the green insignia write "Brasil" in white and de negros in our troops...
Our Uniform os a mix between several equipment from 20's and 30's and didn't support the italian wheater very well...
that's is why we take the american uniform, mostly the jackets and trench coats.
Later I'll try to find some pictures of the brazilian army before the war
Post Merge: July 15, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
Well I didn't find the picture but I read that many brazilians keep the legs of the original uniform under the american legs...
More pictures:
(http://www.19csm.eb.mil.br/feb/brasil_febun11iforme.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1r6ldzxTqm0/TZ5WL1E1I3I/AAAAAAAAAM0/D_UOmD4JcZg/s1600/JeepFAB04.jpg)
(http://www.sohistoria.com.br/ef2/segundaguerrabr/index_clip_image004.jpg)
(http://www.portogente.com.br/arquivos/id_9479_r2.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MIEoQhqkOlE/TZ-jOzsA36I/AAAAAAAACaM/Av8ottHCbQQ/s1600/1607047.jpg)
(http://blogdopatio.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/exbrz261.jpg)
(http://www.anvfeb.com.br/maj_ivaldo_400.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i_YdICPTytk/Sxj9-vmDFZI/AAAAAAAAA6k/oQcx6CEULAk/s400/h0292a02.jpg)
Post Merge: July 16, 2011, 03:55:11 PM
Hi all... I found 2 propaganda videos of USA talking about the Brazil and the WW2... one for 1942 and the other of 1943... just a sec...
Movie 1:
Brazil At War With The Nazis (1942) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmA1asRZgbA#)
Movie 2:
Brazil at war '43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_c-OffpRP0#)
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Well... as we were a little poor country
But not any more. ;D
THe pictures of the troops disembarking at Naples show distinctive variations in uniforms. I particularly enjoyed the chap with a duffel on his head. No reason why these couldn't be used in a CoH mod. The NI have their berets. Betcha they didn't wear them in combat. And as you-all constantly remind me its not history or simulation, its a game!
An Italian Front Mod would be perfect for incorporating all sorts of national troops and equipment. Many different nations were represented there. Perhaps a T5_HQ could be developed to represent the multi-national units. (Did somebody say Ostheer)?
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I'd like to see a US reskin of the Brazillians, maybe also give them Portugese to speak like what they did with the Russians in EF.
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That was my first idea hahahha =D...
if the guys in Eastern front want some translaters I can make a "brazilian/portuguese" translation and help this very good mod grow more and conquest more brazilian fans ;D ;D ;D
About the troops in Naples... there are some differences between the men... the first picture you can see the privates, corporals and seargents (with a "bag" above the heads) and the secound you can see the officers with service uniform.
in this video about the Brazil at War you can see some original uniform of my country =D
Brazil at war '43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_c-OffpRP0#)
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Unless CoH have Portuguese as language, we can't accept such proposal. We are not going to release a translation on X language and then let CoH run with Y language.
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+1 for Blackbishop
and yes, I m from Brazil
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ok ok ... no problem ... It was just an idea =D
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Hold on, i'm confused - Why can't you have a Portuguese translation? ???
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Hold on, i'm confused - Why can't you have a Portuguese translation? ???
Because Vcoh isn't translated in Portuguese.
It's like translating EF to arabic when vcoh doesn't have a translation for arabic. That's making a lot more work for ourselves.
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Is it reasonable to assume that the only languages vCoH accepts are the ones represented by the flags on the web page?
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For there are no Portugese voices, either?
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Is it reasonable to assume that the only languages vCoH accepts are the ones represented by the flags on the web page?
Nope, we also have Chinese Traditional and Simplified, Japanese and Korean.
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Oh, well that sucks. So any idea why there's no Portuguese translation?
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Oh, well that sucks. So any idea why there's no Portuguese translation?
Because Brazil and Portugal the developers thought wouldn't be large enough markets to bother?
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Perhaps, but that's not very nice. There are still many people that are natives to that language. Lex is 1 of them...
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We could make them talk English with a cheesy accent, like Germans in English Version. ;D
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If it is a matter of versimlitude A South American hispanic voice might be used. The lyricism and cadence of Spanish and Portugese is very similar in my ears. Sem ofensa ou insulto pretendido.
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hahahah WoW I create a topic about my country at WW2 and we a talking about "languages" hahahahahhahaha
funny ;D ;D
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What language do you play Company Of Heroes in, Curitibano?
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English =D... but, of course, If there is a portuguese translation I will use it =D (sorry about my english... =D)