Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Strategy and Tactics => Strategy and Tactics for Soviets => Topic started by: oDOMMOo on July 18, 2011, 08:14:40 PM
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I am unbelievably bad using the soviets, if i go for taanks it takes too long to create a formidable amount or if i go generally for infantry the anti tank forces aren't good enough to take them down. also i know it is irrelevant but when i spawn soviet anti tanks guns they come out as a blue square and stay that way anyone got any comments on this
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all the soviets good units have been nerfed or made innefective
so i dunno what to tell you good luck
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red have you nothing else to do than talking the whole day bullshit?
its realy sad to see which way your going...
@dommo
a formidable amount of armor means?
maybe you should try to build only one tank and support it with your infantry. which tank do you normaly go? t34/kv or light support tanks like t70/90?
if you need a 2nd you can also build it but its not the best idea to let the tanks in your base untill you think you have the right amount of them^^
better move it to the front and if it goes low heath move back and repair ;)
another think which is good to know did you play vs players or vs cpu? it would help to give you advices if we know that
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I am unbelievably bad using the soviets, if i go for taanks it takes too long to create a formidable amount or if i go generally for infantry the anti tank forces aren't good enough to take them down. also i know it is irrelevant but when i spawn soviet anti tanks guns they come out as a blue square and stay that way anyone got any comments on this
Try using complimenting Strategies and Doctrines. If You go Infantry Strat, use the Breakthrough Doctrine for your Tankovy. Earmark some of your resource production to Atrillery. A 120mm mortar or two and a properly sited Firebase will turn your frown upside down.
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What you describe is too general. Try posting a replay so we can give you more personal advice.
Red's just butthurt that his Soviets aren't drastically OP anymore.
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usually i play vs players coz im not very good tbh, i put tanks at the front but they get destroyed every so often, i try to use su-85's mixed with one or if im lucky 2 is-2's. I use streklys with red banner to try and support the tanks and a few snipers but without camoflage i don't find them to effective
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oh ok like dennis said we could help you much more if you can upload a replay. but i wouldnt try to support my su85 with an is2 (is2 comes much later and is more expensive than t34/kv) so maybe you should try to support them with these tanks.
about the sniper teams
try to get them into cover. there thy will be cloaked and dont stay with them the whole game at the same place
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all the soviets good units have been nerfed or made innefective
so i dunno what to tell you good luck
^^omg allied units can actually kill axis units and get away with it in this mod and arent nerfed beyond recognition by angry wehr fanboys?! :o
whats the website
We'd really appreciate it if you just dropped your balance concerns. If you do not have any productive to bring to the mod then shut the hell up, we're really sick of your trolling around here. Yea yea yea the soviets are UP and the axis are OP and we're all fanboys and all the bullshit, we put up with it for now but I think I can speak for others when I just say I'm sick of your consistent bitching. The axis got a minor buff in their early game, so what? Learn to play the fucking game. Of course if something was too overpowered that you couldn't survive it regardless of skill of a player, then we'd look into it.
In the words of another "If a faction is too strong to where you win regardless of skill then you break the game and it is no fun."
He's not talking about the axis, he's talking about the soviets and your consistent whining to keep them from getting nerfed.
Don't pull that level 14 bullshit anymore either. Yea, I saw that replay VS Yauz. Your excuse of "but axis are OP OMG" is bullshit. You lost because of your skill. At the time Yauz was a level 10 and he flattened you crazy.
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Don't pull that level 14 bullshit anymore either. Yea, I saw that replay VS Yauz. Your excuse of "but axis are OP OMG" is bullshit. You lost because of your skill. At the time Yauz was a level 10 and he flattened you crazy.
Lvl 14 Soviet Union? I fought communism gave all players equal levels. (Lvl 1) :P :)
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Nah Red is allegedly lvl14 US. Red and Yau had a vCoH battle. Rank for Soviets still can't work :(.
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hahahha @all suck it douchebags
i own you noobs now stfu n gtfo thx ;D
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lol red you made my day :D
but feel free to make your own soviet fraction in your own mod where conscrips kills a panther only with their mental power
that is that what you want right? a soviet army which cant loose
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lol red you made my day :D
but feel free to make your own soviet fraction in your own mod where conscrips kills a panther only with their mental power
that is that what you want right? a soviet army which cant loose
Hehehe :D
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hahahha @all suck it douchebags
i own you noobs now stfu n gtfo thx ;D
Holy shit it's like you're either a 13 year old kid or you've gone INSANE...
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anywho back to actual tactics should i build 34s and support with 85 or other way round and what infantry can go with them
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it depends always on the situation
the best way to help you would be if you could upload a replay of your last game
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Its important if you play 1vs1 or 2vs2.
In a 1vs1 i would go for light tanks after you have chosen one t2 upgrade. Then go for t90 (1 or 2), when your opponent is PE you can build a t70 also (dont fear the ATHT it can be easily destryoed; watch out for marders!!). Then depending of your map control you can go for heavy tank upgrade or build a SU85.
In a 2vs2 1 ally can go fast tanks (meaning a t90 should be on the field under 10min ingame)
Infantry support is 3 consis in the beginning, then strelkys with red banner or the other upgrade (i dont remember name) if you play more defensive.
Thats very basic and can change depending what doc you choose. F.e. if you go breakthrough you have a early AT the SU76 (dont need a Su85 and can go for heavy tanks instead)
Personally i would go rather for the t34 than KV´s
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hahahha @all suck it douchebags
i own you noobs now stfu n gtfo thx ;D
Holy shit it's like you're either a 13 year old kid or you've gone INSANE...
something like that ;D
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thanks for the suggestions but i dont noe how to upload replays and i play vs comp and it said no replays of player vs comp
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i think if you upload the replay here its ok because we want to help you to get better :D
just zip the replay (you can also use the last not saved replay, this is the temp.rec file) and upload it her
im sure we can help you
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ill try but i did actually win my last match although it was generally down to my allies coz they supported my troops i think
Post Merge: July 20, 2011, 07:09:17 PM
sorry im a noob i found the file but what program do i zip it with, it says it is an unknown file and we don't have a program to open it
Post Merge: July 20, 2011, 07:35:31 PM
i think this is correct thingy
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so i have taken a look at the replay
1st on which version of eastern front you are playing? i get es sync error which normaly shows you that you played on another version
2nd it would help much more to see how you play in a 1vs1
3rd we need another replay because this replay shows only that you build 5 ingenerys and nothing else. also all other armys build only t1 so we realy needs another replay and this must be played in coh versin 2.602 and ef version 1.40
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well ive done updates 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 i thought that was it and i dont noe why it did that with the start of the game and ill do a 1 vs 1 now
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Dude... that stuff is obsolete. Don't know where you get it but it wasn't from the download button on our front page nor from the ModDB page.
Download the last version, the full installer for 1.40.
Remember to uninstall that stuff and check inside CoH folder that Eastern_Front folder and other EF files don't exist.
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well i downloaded the actual game from here and when i donloaded them other updates stuff changed like guards prices went down etc but i installed the actual game from moddb
Post Merge: July 20, 2011, 09:04:58 PM
so if i downloaded the game from your thing will i have to update it anymore
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no if you donwload the version 1.40 full you dont need to update it. atm its the current version
you can download it here
http://www.moddb.com/mods/coheastern-front/downloads/eastern-front-140-full (http://www.moddb.com/mods/coheastern-front/downloads/eastern-front-140-full)
moddb
or here
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20369063/EF_Setup1.4.0.0_full.exe (http://www.gamefront.com/files/20369063/EF_Setup1.4.0.0_full.exe)
gamefront
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the strategy you will choose mostly depends on a map you re playing, and for that you need experience..a lots of it... soviets are not Up or OP!for me, balance is great!i just love when some noobs who thinks that they know how to play thinks that the game is unbalanced...
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i downloaded it from one of the suggested mirrors but the launcher and the game did not seem as i had seen them, so when i downloaded those it added a few options in the armoury and it made guards go from 380 man power to 300 man power so they must have done something
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300MP guards? What crazy version is this?
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300MP guards? What crazy version is this?
Maybe 1.0?
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i just love when some noobs who thinks that they know how to play thinks that the game is unbalanced...
yeah like the entire forum, maybe it has something to do with all the axis love avatars and sig banners? just a hunch :-*
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You should have the sign "Mr. Troll" instead of "Mr. Spam" ;D
There is always the possibility to play version 1.0 ::) (for all the soviet fanboys)
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sorry but i realy dont know which version you are playing dommo
this all dosent sounds like 1.40
maybe you shoud erase ef completly and reinstall it then.
@killar
hey Mr.Troll sounds funny^^
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You should have the sign "Mr. Troll" instead of "Mr. Spam" ;D
There is always the possibility to play version 1.0 ::) (for all the soviet fanboys)
+1
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where can we find version 1.0? tried the search button didnt work
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where can we find version 1.0? tried the search button didnt work
Here you go:
http://www.gamefront.com/files/15400369/ef_setup.exe (http://www.gamefront.com/files/15400369/ef_setup.exe)
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thx for the link but im having problems with the install it wont run after completed and i restarted
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thx for the link but im having problems with the install it wont run after completed and i restarted
lol somehow funny but its getting lame atm
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thx for the link but im having problems with the install it wont run after completed and i restarted
lol somehow funny but its getting lame atm
Yeah. Dear RedGuard, please consider following IJoe or quit the fucking trolling around this place!
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well i downloaded 1.4 off of the suggested mirrors, and at frist it didnt play ( fixed this now ) i thought it was because of updates so i downloaded those ones i found, when i reinstalled the other day and played with basic version i noticed there was less stuff in the armoury and the guards price had gone up so i thought i must need to download those again and when i did i got some extra armoury items and guards price went down
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thx for the link but im having problems with the install it wont run after completed and i restarted
lol somehow funny but its getting lame atm
Yeah. Dear RedGuard, please consider following IJoe or quit the fucking trolling around this place!
but im having way too much fun, more fun than i should be allowed to be having muahahahahah
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Please red guard have you poxy argument somewhere else
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he is already banned for a week
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lol...Anyone read his outburst?
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664)
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Someone should stop his defamation rage attacks. If there's actually someone out there who should believe in his delusion bullshit, it could harm EF. That's what I don't want to see happening. :-\
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"bunch of axis fanboys infiltrated the dev team and the balance team"
HAHA loled so hard. He is like IJOE. Did you ease him on monetary or what happened?
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Maybe we should secretly make a patch in with Soviets are OP and just give it to him, no one else. He would be happy :)
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He's online atm.. Don't know how he got behind blackys ban, because one week isn't over yet.
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online but not able to write a comment
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Allright, thanks.
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its realy sad to see which way he goes...
and its more than unfair that he talks so bad about the balance which is atm the best we ever had and becomes better again in the next patch
im worried about that some players who read his posts on gr.org dont want to test the mod...
atm we had online the problem that 90% of all games are ony vs comp
and posts like these of red makes it not better :(
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im worried about that some players who read his posts on gr.org dont want to test the mod...
i have different experiences.
I watch broadcasts often and ask plp what they think of the mod. All say EF died long ago. I think its the because of 1.0. Most players were looking forward to this mod and were dissapointed.
Its not because the balance hasn´t changed since then but i think EF is "uncool" to higher lvl players.
Apart from that i dont think Red displaced plp by this thread. Its not very frequented.
But i think we should stop talking about Red while he is banned. Kinda unfair when he cant respond :P
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A little unfair that he posts in other forums bagging the mod and balance team just because his views weren't shared by the rest of us either.
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true
i also know many people who said after 1.0 they dont want to test the mod again :(
i mean yes the balance was realy crap in 1.0^^ but what does the people think? nothing has been changed????
but what do you mean with "uncool" is it that you cant lvl up?
this is the most feedback i get when i ased the people why they dont want to play ef. its just the level. 95% say thats its sensless to play if you dont get a level up or stats or something like that
but i think we can thank god to get a 2nd chance with the ostheer.
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Most people are probably still under the impression that Soviets can't retreat or recrew weapons and don't have vet. They still probably still view them as a noob faction because they think they miss these key components. The level thing is still a big downer though. Not only is there nobody playing automatch but there's not really much of a point either for these rank whoring people. The Ostheer will be VERY thoroughly balanced this time around. We will simply not have a 3rd chance at getting the GR crowd on board again. The OH release will have to go very well.
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And it will. I have full belief in you :D. But if it is not proper............. :'(
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but what do you mean with "uncool" is it that you cant lvl up?
i mean like playing brits in 2.601 (still broken faction)
The Ostheer will be VERY thoroughly balanced this time around
somehow i doubt that
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You doubt my power? :P
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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You doubt my power? :P
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
lol i dont doubt you, but when i look back i see the difficulties of balancing. When some plp (majority) want to change a ability and one person doesnt agree because his opinion is more powerful :P
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The balance team previously had a substantial difference of opinion. Since Red has left, the remaining members are almost always on the same page and balance is dramatically better as a result. You'll see when we release the next patch eventually.
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I actually like the fact soviets cant lvl up and your win/lose isnt recorded. That way I can play freely, experiment, or act stupid w/o it being recorded down ;D. And with everyone on the same lvl there is no biased when picking who to play b/c some ppl may kick lower lvl players on the same team b4 game starts so they have a better chance of winning. Also some games are specifically "no n00b" or "pro only" :(. THis lvl 1 thing creates a sense of equallity :D
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mh red becomes more and more out of control :(
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664)
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Meh, he just seems depressed that the Ostheer has come out. I bet once ostheer comes out he will become an axis fanboy.
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mh red becomes more and more out of control :(
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664)
lol read the thread now. Dennis destroyed him.
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mh red becomes more and more out of control :(
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664 (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=787664)
lol read the thread now. Dennis destroyed him.
That hit home. 8)
Edit: Doesn't seem Reds rage had an impact on the GR community - only two or three people commented on his thread, one even got the gist:
Hmm, this going out of control :P
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lol dennis your the best^^
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We have all noticed one or more of the EF_Community members go crazy from time to time. I personally think this happens when one goes off their meds. Maybe not. I think it might be advisable to simply ignore crazy outbursts rather than reinforce such aberrant behavior when it occurs. Just a thought.
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Hey dennis, you should play red in a 1v1 like that one guy said, own red, and post the replay :)
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Beat the tar out of him.
Can't wait to see Red's usual excuses about this abuse or that abuse after he gets beat down again.
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Beat the tar out of him.
Can't wait to see Red's usual excuses about this abuse or that abuse after he gets beat down again.
It'll look something like this.
BUT AXIS ARE OP OMG UGH FUCK YOU MAN AXIS ARE SO OP SOVIETS ARE UP SOVIETS ARE BROKEN THIS MOD SUX I CAN'T WIN WITH SOVIETS YOU ARE ALL AXIS FANBOIS.
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::) :P
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You also destroyed him pretty hard, Cranial. If that's possible after Dennis did it already.
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You also destroyed him pretty hard, Cranial. If that's possible after Dennis did it already.
I had a draft written but dennis posted before I did so I had to revise :p
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Better luck next time.
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He was probably level 14. IN Skirmish. :P
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Beat the tar out of him.
Can't wait to see Red's usual excuses about this abuse or that abuse after he gets beat down again.
It'll look something like this.
BUT AXIS ARE OP OMG UGH FUCK YOU MAN AXIS ARE SO OP SOVIETS ARE UP SOVIETS ARE BROKEN THIS MOD SUX I CAN'T WIN WITH SOVIETS YOU ARE ALL AXIS FANBOIS.
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::) :P
lol
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