Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: totte1015 on July 23, 2011, 09:08:34 PM
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Should that update be released by now?
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There are some behind-the-scene problems that delay the updates release. It should be out before the 29th though.
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There are some behind-the-scene problems that delay the updates release. It should be out before the 29th though.
for donators :P
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Okey, when will it be released for public?
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Okey, when will it be released for public?
Probably 5 days later ;)
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Ah okay. Well its good news that the release date is almost exact :)
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Now, let's hope we can finish the remaining stuff for that date :-X.
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You mean there are doubts that you can't finish it in time? :-\
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You mean there are doubts that you can't finish it in time? :-\
Yes, animations are the most difficult thing for our Team, and as currently Tiger is helping us to animate stuff but he's busy in RL. Hartkeks doesn't have time to animate our stuff for now AFAIK.
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if you get in trouble about the animations dont worry about that
swap the video into the next month and show us just a few nice ostheer pics XD
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if you get in trouble about the animations dont worry about that
swap the video into the next month and show us just a few nice ostheer pics XD
+1 yeah. But those must be cool pics then.
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and more pics than regular because of the time delay ;)
(at least 10)
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lol my post was just a joke guys :D
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Well i, personally, don't mind if you have to postpone the video. So long as Alexs music is used in it. ;D
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one foto for this weekend would be a good deal
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I know a lot of the donators will be pissed, but I doubt it's a good idea to give them the OH before other people. First of all, they'll have more time to get used to it and have an unfair advantage. And also they'll get bored of it sooner.
Not that OH and Soviets are boring, just the community dies down awhile after the update. I don't think the Community should be divided into Donators and Regulars. But the Devs need the money for the site.
Yes, they might deserve a beta, but the finished product should be released to everybody at the same time. At least the Soviets are incredibly different now compared to 1.0 (where they were well in beta stage)
But really you can't donate out of the good of heart or because this is an awesome mod?
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We will only release the Ostheer to the public when we are fully satisfied as well as our balance team. We all witnessed the farce of the Soviet release, we do not wish to repeat it by releasing prematurely.
The Ostheer will go through a private (invited) Beta Stage before it's release, probably a cross-section of dedicated people in the community (unlike the group of 'experts' we had over from GR to balance the Soviets). People will have their chance to be a part of it... obviously, the majority of donors have a guaranteed space on the beta test team but I'm sure we will try to make room for others who haven't donated but are well established members of the community ;)
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We will only release the Ostheer to the public when we are fully satisfied as well as our balance team. We all witnessed the farce of the Soviet release, we do not wish to repeat it by releasing prematurely.
The Ostheer will go through a private (invited) Beta Stage before it's release, probably a cross-section of dedicated people in the community (unlike the group of 'experts' we had over from GR to balance the Soviets). People will have their chance to be a part of it... obviously, the majority of donors have a guaranteed space on the beta test team but I'm sure we will try to make room for others who haven't donated but are well established members of the community ;)
I got confused and somehow had the idea that the balanced and functioning OH would come to Donators before Regulars. Good to know everybody will get release status OH simultaneously.
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And also they'll get bored of it sooner.
Anybody who gets bored of Company Of Heroes shall be executed for heresy. ;D
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Just to clear the air a bit more, Burro already post a general rundown. This is probably (in a bit more detailed steps) how it will occur. Subject to change!
* Current - Working on content, only devs have access to Ostheer ("Pre-Alpha")
* We feel that Ostheer is finished enough to do balance tests, lot of art is missing but all or almost all abilities/upgrades/veterancy should be in - balance testers are invited leave their balance feedback and general feedback. ("Alpha")
* Most/All arts is finished, Ostheer is still unbalance, bugs here and there - selected community members and donors valid for Ostheer Beta are invited. ("Closed Beta")
* No Bugs, Balanced and Ostheer is generally in a finished state - Release to everyone at the same time. ("Gold")
Donors will be able to Pre-Load the release (aka. Download the update but can't play until release), so in reality can start playing 10~60 mins earlier depending on download speeds. If you were be able to download 1~2 GB/s, you would be able to play really at the same time as the pre-loaders. Pre-loading is commonly found on Online Retails such as Steam for big upcoming games (such as Homefront, BFBC2 etc).
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This able to download but not play before release thing - How does that work? How does the game know when it's officially released?
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This able to download but not play before release thing - How does that work? How does the game know when it's officially released?
Basically the installer and/or game files will be encrypted (aka unusable), you will need a password or something like that to unlock to files.
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Personally I don't care at all. I just want Ostheer. Either earlier or later.
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I knew there was an upside to all the hard work that goes into balancing Soviets. :P
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I expect to at least see the Ostheer before Christmas ;D
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I expect to at least see the Ostheer before Christmas ;D
Im realistic and expect it next year january 21th
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21st ;)
What's so special about the 21st, anyway?
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Soviet release in 2010 ;)
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21.01.2010 was the release of Soviets. So exactly 2years later the Ostheer release sounds good
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Sounds good to me, too; I should have my new computer by then. :D But then i gotta figure out how to download it... :'(
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I'll send you an USB device with the Ostheer patch on it :P
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Haha, that would be nice, but it will be a while before it's ready. ;) I'll see if there's a way to download it elsewhere, such as the library, but thanks anyway. :)
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IIRC someone of Devs (Lord Rommel?) said that the Ostheer will be released in a Victory Day of a not defined year.
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I have a feeling I'll be playing Ostheer within 2 months.
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IIRC someone of Devs (Lord Rommel?) said that the Ostheer will be released in a Victory Day of a not defined year.
God I hope it's VJ day, if not then WW1 Armistice/Veterans day.
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Wouldn't V.E. day be more appropriate?
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I have a feeling I'll be playing Ostheer within 2 months.
Where is the "like" button when you need it.
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We haven't even discussed a timeframe for release yet ;)
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Wouldn't V.E. day be more appropriate?
Shhh, VJ day is in only two months!
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I have a feeling I'll be playing Ostheer within 2 months.
Where is the "like" button when you need it.
He said that because he belongs to the Balance Team :P... not because he thinks that the ostheer will be released as closed beta ;D.
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Now that you have enough money to pay everything, wouldn't it be appropriate to close the donation Ostheer Beta signup thing?
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I have a feeling I'll be playing Ostheer within 2 months.
Where is the "like" button when you need it.
He said that because he belongs to the Balance Team :P... not because he thinks that the ostheer will be released as closed beta ;D.
I know, but it does mean that we, the common people, are getting ever closer at being able to play the ostheer :P
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Now that you have enough money to pay everything, wouldn't it be appropriate to close the donation Ostheer Beta signup thing?
I agree. Unless you have some more expenses coming up? :-\
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Now that you have enough money to pay everything, wouldn't it be appropriate to close the donation Ostheer Beta signup thing?
I agree. Unless you have some more expenses coming up? :-\
Doesn't matter as long as they have you :P
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Well, that's true. :P
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What we have left it's not about money ;D... I guess :P.
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Is there something that you want to tell us? :P
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Money can't get you everything. ;) Did you need some more animators, or modellers, or something?
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Yes, we will always need more animators!
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It will be good to see Ostheer whenever it is ready. I think the ability to download the mod by discrete groups may be much less frustrating than one big base rush on the routers.
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Release the Ostheer without Animations. Just have random static tanks rolling around, with motionless infantry with there arms sideways going at it ;D
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Speaking of which, would you guys be able to fix that bug where infantry assume the default animation (and i think skinning) stance?
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Release the Ostheer without Animations. Just have random static tanks rolling around, with motionless infantry with there arms sideways going at it ;D
Would represent the German hard- and strictness perfectly :P
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And their frozen-stiffness. ;D
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That's just because of the harsh Russian winters man ;D
I'd really like to see the Ostheer as almost balanced faction, unlike the Sovs ind EF 1.0.. Take your time.
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I'd really like to see the Ostheer as a completely balanced faction. :P ;D
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And what a Perfect way of doing that is to add the Maus;D
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BurroDiablo is gonna strangle you in a second. :-X ;D
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Nahh. Am safe here in America.
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I'd really like to see the Ostheer as a completely balanced faction. :P ;D
frankly, to balance SU and Ostheer completely, US, Brits, PE and Wehr ought to be removed. The very first CoH, without PE and Tommies was very balanced.
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Nahh. Am safe here in America.
Oh, must have forgotten to tell you, Burro is currently in Pennsylvania. :P
I'd really like to see the Ostheer as a completely balanced faction. :P ;D
frankly, to balance SU and Ostheer completely, US, Brits, PE and Wehr ought to be removed. The very first CoH, without PE and Tommies was very balanced.
To be frank, 1.XX balance was horrible, especially up to like 1.6 or so (1.71 was the last patch before OF IIRC). People just *think* when looking back, that is was balanced. You remember the fun stuff right? Not your balance concerns*.
*does not apply to EF 1.00!
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Infact it was almost the same.
Same MG, Sniper, Main Inf, buildings, 2 Super tanks.
I think what Relic tried to do is try not to make another US or Wher fraction, but to shake things up. In a way they failed.
Nahh. Am safe here in America.
Oh, must have forgotten to tell you, Burro is currently in Pennsylvania. :P
:o
But no one Knowes what Littletown I am in.
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I'd really like to see the Ostheer as a completely balanced faction. :P ;D
frankly, to balance SU and Ostheer completely, US, Brits, PE and Wehr ought to be removed. The very first CoH, without PE and Tommies was very balanced.
Such is the nature of having so many factions (without going Age Of Empires-style) i'm afraid. Americans and Wehrmacht were pretty good, but the Axis was still a little overpowered then. Then adding Panzer Elite (very good and versatile infantry and vehicles) and British (yeah...) only widened the gap. :'( Maybe we should make Ostheer dreadfully underpowered to compensate. ;D
Infact it was almost the same.
Same MG, Sniper, Main Inf, buildings, 2 Super tanks.
I think what Relic tried to do is try not to make another US or Wher fraction, but to shake things up. In a way they failed.
Yeah, pretty much. :(
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Maybe we should make Ostheer dreadfully underpowered to compensate. ;D
When Ostheer will be released no one here will play more with Relic factions.
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Haha, yeah, that's probably true. :P
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Nah I'd still play all factions. They're all unique and I get bored of playing the same faction any longer than 10 games in a row.
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Nah I'd still play all factions. They're all unique and I get bored of playing the same faction any longer than 10 games in a row.
Yes, me too, but in the nearest times after ostheer release I'm sure everybody will play with Ostheer ;)
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Moonwalker can see the future! Tell me O great seer when will the Ostheer be released?
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Tomorrow. ;) ;D
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I'll be bored of the OH by then too :P. I'll have played them for months on end.
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And if thee speak the untruth the hounds of hell shall eat thy flesh and suck thy bone marrow dry.
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I also thought of what will happen when Ostheer is released. In a teamgame, let's say a classical 2v2, the Axis side would go down because both players would most likely be like "who Ostheer is out I wanna try it first" and noone would play Wehr or PE in the first few hours. At least in my imagination :P
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You know there IS a skirmish mode for honing your skills.
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I'll definately start playing Ostheer in a PvP match with some EF community members, skirmishes are lame. ;)
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You won't kill hordes of AI conscripts with Ostheer to get the hang of it?
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Well, that sounds better.. :P
But my first game will be PvP, because of the fun you have, playing together with/against other people, especially other community members, can't be reached by lame compstomping.
I have to agree with you though. To get used to the Ostheer, it's better to play some compstomps.
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Hell Yeah 8)
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I will play some Skirmishes just only for try units, commander trees and abilities, and next only PvP. :D
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And btw, to the VJ / VE release dates, both will not happen. VJ is in just 3 weeks, and VE is far later then our goal.
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Oh, boy.. I didnt know this topic would be so popular.
Sorry if i did anything wrong
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And btw, to the VJ / VE release dates, both will not happen. VJ is in just 3 weeks, and VE is far later then our goal.
Armistice Day?
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And btw, to the VJ / VE release dates, both will not happen. VJ is in just 3 weeks, and VE is far later then our goal.
Armistice Day?
We have goals/estimates when we will be done, and like it has been said before, we believe we will be done with Ostheer (done enough for release) in Q4 2011 or Q1 2012.
Oh, boy.. I didnt know this topic would be so popular.
Sorry if i did anything wrong
Not at all, it just became the general place to discuss Ostheer atm
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I'll definately start playing Ostheer in a PvP match with some EF community members, skirmishes are lame. ;)
Maxi, when OH will be released, i probably will play skirmishes to learn how them play. Later will try PvsP.
I noticed that to find USA or CW(not RMC) is very hard, most players want play as SU. Similarly will be with axis. Everyone will play as OH, but there is more axis fanboys, so to see WH or PE will be more easy than USA and CW. That's my opinion. And i remember Jan 19, 2010 and how hard was to find axis players ;D.
Moonwalker can see the future! Tell me O great seer when will the Ostheer be released?
2013.13.13 LOL ;D
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TheDzierzanPL shall burn in the fires of doom and listen to Friday for all eternity if he lies. So the gods have willed.
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I'll definately start playing Ostheer in a PvP match with some EF community members, skirmishes are lame. ;)
Maxi, when OH will be released, i probably will play skirmishes to learn how them play. Later will try PvsP.
Well, then let's do a coop skirmish :P
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Two unexperienced Ostheer players Vs. KV-2 spamming SU ai. Doesn't take a seer like Moonwalker to see how the skirmish will end.
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I'll definately start playing Ostheer in a PvP match with some EF community members, skirmishes are lame. ;)
Can I join you guys then?
Maxi, when OH will be released, i probably will play skirmishes to learn how them play. Later will try PvsP.
Well, then let's do a coop skirmish :P
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Sure you can join us. I don't even know who I mean with "us" yet (well, except of me) :P
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Of course EF players, not forum talkers :P :P
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I hear you, Moonwalker, I hear you.
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Thats really true ;D
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Whoo, haven't posted since 2008 :P I've been playing this mod recently and forgot how awesome it is (and how much it's changed!) I really look forward to seeing Ostheer footage/screenshots! Also couldn't help but notice a lot of ideas I had suggested for the Ostheer in 2008 either made it in or some doctrine ideas used for the Soviets ;D
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Welcome back :)
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Any updates on Ostheer?
I lost the hope for it by now... I really thought this would be released months ago...:(
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Keep dreaming :P. We all are ;D
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Optmistically we could see it released to the public at the beginning of next year. Optimistically.
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And let me tell you this Fish, I've seen some Live Ostheer footage personally, its quite close to completion, however, there are somethings that still need to be animated, some Vet issues to fix, a couple of small features that need to be agreed upon and last but not least thoroughly and quite menacingly beta tested. Yea anyway I've said quite a bit already, most which is stuff I shouldn't really know about (Thanks Ri.... :P)
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You can consider vet fixed now :P.
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Does that include the problem with the Marder 2 not having its AP rounds Picture nor function working after Gunner Vet 2?
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The pink picture was just a bad path... the UI icons were the main bug :D! Anyhting else works properly.
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And let me tell you this Fish, I've seen some Live Ostheer footage personally, its quite close to completion, however, there are somethings that still need to be animated, some Vet issues to fix, a couple of small features that need to be agreed upon and last but not least thoroughly and quite menacingly beta tested. Yea anyway I've said quite a bit already, most which is stuff I shouldn't really know about (Thanks Ri.... :P)
I didn't mean to offend anyone :P. Sorry if I did :P.
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if so close to completion then the beta testing takes months?? :-\
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The pink picture was just a bad path... the UI icons were the main bug :D! Anyhting else works properly.
Well thats just great to hear, soon comrades the Donators will help with Ostheer testing. Starting to wish I was better at this game than I currently am. "Sigh"
if so close to completion then the beta testing takes months?? :-\
Because people are lazy...... The build I saw was in Late August and all that was stuff done pretty much at the start of this year from what I had been told, so ya.
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So all this time the devs have been lazy..........thats hard to believe :o
ands thats not sarcasm!!!!!
or is it ;)
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So all this time the devs have been lazy..........thats hard to believe :o
ands thats not sarcasm!!!!!
or is it ;)
You sneaky fox :P
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So all this time the devs have been lazy..........thats hard to believe :o
ands thats not sarcasm!!!!!
I wouldn't call it lazy. People have real life issues that get in the way. I run two jobs and school and I only get to balance relatively 1 or even 2 days a week during the regular year. Needless to say other devs and admins have work and school as well. I'd call it far from lazy it's just lack of time, infact most of the time I post from my phone on the forums because I'm on the move.
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+1
modders are great people who sacrifice theyr free time for our fun
thanks people
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+1
modders are great people who sacrifice theyr free time for our fun
thanks people
very true. some ppl fail to recognize that modders are not full time game devs that get paid for wat they do.the only inspiration for working is love for the game and not money.Ive seen many ppl get inpatient and upset over mods because of dev members not working to "their standard apparently ??? "Modders are true heros to the gaming community and should be thanked for even having the courage to take on a responsibility while still having to deal with other real life problems. I salute U DEV team and all your hard work :)