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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Red Army Suggestions => Topic started by: Dzierzan on August 12, 2011, 11:35:33 AM

Title: Topic about soviets
Post by: Dzierzan on August 12, 2011, 11:35:33 AM: Hi people

I don't know where i should write this but i think that here is the best place.

Maybe you guys saw that most of soviets units have wrong... hmmm... how to say it? Maybe i say this based on the example. You know that command squad have 1 vs infantry, 1 vs vehicles, 0 vs tanks and 0 vs building. This stats are from british lieutenant. CS should have 3 vs infantry. Another, T-34 have 5, 5, 5, 4 if i good remember. There are stats from sherman, and after upgrade stats are the same, but we know that are better. All SU units have stats from USA and CW units, but during the fighting, of course they have other true stats.

What do I mean? I want that SU units should have their own "numbers" stats in their little menu. OR maybe this is another hardcored bug :-\, that you can not fix it, for while.

And i know, my topic is not easily to understand.

I have pic, if someone wrong understood me.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on August 12, 2011, 11:56:29 AM: I understand what you mean and it's not hardcoded, it's a simple change to do in Corsix. However, those stats don't say anything about the unit's actual strength and are therefor only a little help for newbies.
Either I recommend what you said, to change them to match the Soviet stats or just leave the numbers out like the BK mod did.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Crinkle on August 12, 2011, 01:33:25 PM: How do you find the true stats of the units then?
I always wondered why volks got +5 and still got murdered.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on August 12, 2011, 01:51:56 PM: The offensive power doesn't say anything about their HP. Volks aren't as tough as Grens.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Killar on August 12, 2011, 02:12:17 PM: Like Maxi said these numbers don´t represent the power of a unit vs. another one. Its only a marker that you see after an upgrade the unit has more power than before. The real stats of a unit are much more complex.

To give you an idea here is a link about the basic volksgrenadier rifle Kar98

http://dow2.info/coh/Weapon_Kar98K_Volksgrenadier.html (http://dow2.info/coh/Weapon_Kar98K_Volksgrenadier.html)
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Crinkle on August 12, 2011, 02:59:47 PM: so there is a chart like that for every weapon used by every unit?

that will take a while to learn...
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Dzierzan on August 12, 2011, 04:26:31 PM: @Killar and Maxi

I know this, but it would be looks better, if soviets units will not have USA or CW "stats". That's my opinion.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Pac-Fish on August 12, 2011, 04:36:37 PM: Although its not a priority, the changed numbers would help "newbies" to EF alot more. With the current numbers, they may think the CS isnt as powerrful as it really is.
Title: Re: Topic about soviets
Post by: Blackbishop on August 12, 2011, 05:17:20 PM: I can change them if you like, after all, being a CoH unofficial expansion is our duty to fill those gaps ;D.