Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 01:14:42 AM

Title: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 01:14:42 AM

After some recent games with killar, he had some deadly snipers. I tried many ways to counter it, including countersnipeing, bikes, mines, but I think the problem is that they cloak to fast. Once my volks were shooting at them, and they cloaked.

So what do you guys think? I think we should we should increase the time for Soviet Snipers to re-cloak.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: GodlikeDennis on September 08, 2011, 03:58:17 AM

They have the same cloak time as US Snipers.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 08, 2011, 04:08:44 AM

Do all snipers have the same cloak time?

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: GodlikeDennis on September 08, 2011, 04:49:50 AM

Sniper ace cloaks twice as fast as the others, who I think all have the same cloak time. However, Wehr Snipers shoot faster so I guess they'll start decloaking for longer, faster than US/Sov Snipers.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 12:15:43 PM

Opps, am sorry. Guess it just seemed longer to me.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Spieel on September 08, 2011, 04:12:35 PM

I have been struggling against soviet snipers myself. Counter sniped three (2v2) last night. still lost to it though, so any good tips will be appreciated to counter this. It just seems if I concentrate on counter sniping my other small forces gets overrun by soviet mass infantry, or less sniping and the snipers pick my infantry apart.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: SnappingTurtle on September 08, 2011, 06:18:57 PM

Aren't the Sov snipers only 140 manpower each? I know you need to buy upgrades with munitions to make them behave like other factions' snipers, but they can still cloak in cover, right? That means they can still act as counter snipers in a stationary position. Does anyone else think the price is too low?

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Blackbishop on September 08, 2011, 06:22:06 PM

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- Base unit - Sharpshooter(140 manpower 20 secs)
[...]
- Upgrade option 1 - Sniper(200 manpower 40 secs)
[...]

I don't see how a sniper costs only 140 MP ;). Sharpshooters cannot fight vs sniper because will lose (I would say more than a 95% of the fights). Besides are killed easily by infantry.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Spieel on September 08, 2011, 10:15:21 PM

With the upgrade it's the same price as wehr sniper ( I think) Besides I think before the upgrade they only have a high critical rate? The actual "snipe" comes after the upgrade.(?) So IMO the price is fine.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Blackbishop on September 08, 2011, 10:20:49 PM

It used to have high criticals and high damage(30 - IIRC), but we removed the high criticals before release.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Spieel on September 08, 2011, 10:24:33 PM

I did not know this, thanks for clearing it up.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 11:05:59 PM

I just played another game. Are you guys SURE it is exactly the same as Amer Sniper?

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Blackbishop on September 08, 2011, 11:24:16 PM

Quote from: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 11:05:59 PM

I just played another game. Are you guys SURE it is exactly the same as Amer Sniper?

It has the same camouflage_ext values than the ami sniper. IIRC those values are to tweak the camo'ed time.

Title: Re: Sniper Cloak
Post by: Seeme on September 08, 2011, 11:37:15 PM

Ok. Thanks Bishop