Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 09:27:02 PM

Title: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
3 Squads with 2 Bazookas each shot 6 rockets and none of them hit a stationary puma!!!

Second reload.. THEY MISS AGAIN!

They don't hit shit! I just lost just now because i thought recoilless rifles were an ok counter against light armor but no!

THEY ARE A COUNTER TO CHURCHES, TREES, FENCES and MUD!



GOD DAMN THEY SUCK SOOO OMFGPSAGP HARD!


When the game ended the darn armored car still was still alive. I got it imobilized with sticky's but the darn recoiless didn't manage to kill it before the 2 pios repeared it back to full! Because they never hit it once! OMG! RAGE!
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Tico_1990 on September 18, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
EF doesn't change vanilla (not counting a few needed exceptions). What you experienced is a rather unique thing I think so EF won't change the para's
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 18, 2011, 09:36:32 PM
U Mad Bro? Just kidding ;)

I think RR have a tendency to "phase through" their target. Like AC's.

RR shouldn't be your main AT anyways. You should be using AT gun in conjunction with rifleman and a few para's.

And 3 squads of para's is a bit abundant if you ask me :P

IDK about their accuracy. Did you have them charge at the Puma? Maybe you should flank them. Or shoot the pios repairing :P. Food for thought
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: TheVolskinator on September 18, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
You're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
It was only one PUMA And i stole 3 of his paks.. but whatever :P They were placed at different chokes, but he managed to take out the crew in they from the front with 5 shots so they only hit it once or twice... I never got the finnishing blow because the RR's missed -,-

Yea i'm mad, and no you can't change nutn.

Also the game before that i got a bug.. I couldn't retreat my squads... So i They got stuck in craters :(


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IDK about their accuracy. Did you have them charge at the Puma? Maybe you should flank them. Or shoot the pios repairing . Food for thought

No not at all.. Because i had allready stickied it the time i rage about. Twice actually so it was imobilized and had 10% hp left. And i was comming from the side. And The squads were down 1-2 man.. so it was a total of 6 rifle's.. And the rifles of paras suck, so i'd much rather focus down the puma... Just needed one shot right?

Well after 12 the infantry came from the other side of the map to back it up so i had to run -,-



THEY ACTUALLY ONLY HIT THE GROUND AROUND; NO PHASING NO NUTN!

They just can't shoot for shit -,-
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Chancellor on September 18, 2011, 10:30:58 PM
I don't know why there are so many people like you who are coming into EF and trying to make it your own little noob haven.  EF will not change anything from the vanilla factions, and this includes the USA paratroopers.

This is a learn to play issue.  Stop bitching.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Killar on September 18, 2011, 10:33:01 PM
As the thread has no point it can be closed
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 18, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
Well I wouldn't really put it the way other people described :-\.

Instead use ths loss as a moment to learn :P. Now we (or maybe you) know that you're AT defenses should be positioned and used better. And not so much RR. Get a M10 or Hellat :P
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Cranialwizard on September 18, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
"Flames! Take Cover"

As this is either a troll or a blithering idiotic statement on the verge of being flame wars I second we close it.

RRs are fine. They phase through pumas often and it's part of the game, infect they have the highest penetration levels in inf at weapons.

Learn to play and adapt or stop whining.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 10:51:30 PM
Guess what i learned? My paras can't shoot and should be shot for betrayal! :P

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I don't know why there are so many people like you who are coming into EF and trying to make it your own little noob haven.  EF will not change anything from the vanilla factions, and this includes the USA paratroopers.

This is a learn to play issue.  Stop bitching.

Whats your problem? You say that i want things changed and all. But i've never said that. Nor am i crying about balance then this would be in the general sugestion section.

I'm just mad cus i got a bad set of troopers who dropped out of second grade and then joined the army to get paid since they couldn't get jobs!

Next time Airborne divisions will send me real men  8)

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Instead use ths loss as a moment to learn . Now we (or maybe you) know that you're AT defenses should be positioned and used better. And not so much RR. Get a M10 or Hellat

I REFUSE TO LEARN!
I'm going to use paras until i win vs light armor with em :P
Those suckers only suck cus they don't want to be called out on the field of war again. They want to go home to the states.

But naaw i say.. naaw yah hear!

I'm going to drop paras just to see them killed by callibers the size of their thighs! If they keep missing they'll be sendt back from the war in a ... Doggy BAG with only a finger in it cus they found no other piece left of em.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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RRs are fine. They phase through pumas often and it's part of the game,

Phasing means hitting lampposts, cats and grass in the ground between them and the unit? If they do that as often as you say, they do indeed need a shooting lesson. :o

But in all seriousness, this could be call trolling.. But i'd like to call it "Whine alot to feel better" Sounds cooler that way!

Video that explains it all (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjbGi0x3kg#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Chancellor on September 18, 2011, 10:54:18 PM
Guess what i learned? My paras can't shoot and should be shot for betrayal! :P

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I don't know why there are so many people like you who are coming into EF and trying to make it your own little noob haven.  EF will not change anything from the vanilla factions, and this includes the USA paratroopers.

This is a learn to play issue.  Stop bitching.

Whats your problem? You say that i want things changed and all. But i've never said that. Nor am i crying about balance then this would be in the general sugestion section.

I'm just mad cus i got a bad set of troopers who dropped out of second grade and then joined the army to get paid since they couldn't get jobs!

Next time Airborne divisions will send me real men  8)



You're not here bitching about the balance.  Instead you're just outright bitching, which is even worse.  Take it to off-topic section or something.  And even when its in the off-topic section, I still don't see the point of this post.  And someone that knows how this forum crap works plz fix my post.  I can't seem to unquote this.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 18, 2011, 10:59:05 PM
As much as I like to talk, I personally feel this thread should be closed for a bit. We've esstablished:

-Pumas are invisible to RR :P
-Airborne failed on the shooting range :P
-Anything to do with past gameplay, especially in vCOH will be subject to instant "flaming" by both balancers and noobs alike :(.

As we know, these points aren't very useful. Lets end it now while we still feel stupid and annoyed, not upset and angry :-\
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 11:01:15 PM
 :D I feel better allready! Since we all have learned so much about the brittish airborne :)

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-Pumas are invisible to RR
-Airborne failed on the shooting range
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 18, 2011, 11:04:34 PM
Dont you mean American airborne :P?
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 18, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Dont you mean American airborne :P?

 :o Wasn't that what i wrote?

 ::) Oh well, yeah i did.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Blackbishop on September 18, 2011, 11:21:44 PM
Airborne Paratroopers are not that good vs light armoured vehicles(especially those nasty ACs), you should be using them vs tanks. Perhaps RRs are good vs ACs in the campaign only, you can be sure about it :D.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Desert_Fox on September 18, 2011, 11:25:47 PM
I don't know why there are so many people like you who are coming into EF and trying to make it your own little noob haven.  EF will not change anything from the vanilla factions, and this includes the USA paratroopers.

This is a learn to play issue.  Stop bitching.

+1
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 18, 2011, 11:28:11 PM
Airborne Paratroopers are not that good vs light armoured vehicles(especially those nasty ACs), you should be using them vs tanks. Perhaps RRs are good vs ACs in the campaign only, you can be sure about it :D.

Against an Ostwind, not so much :P. Maybe vs. a Panzer IV or Panther ???
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Cireva on September 18, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
Airborne Paratroopers are not that good vs light armoured vehicles(especially those nasty ACs), you should be using them vs tanks. Perhaps RRs are good vs ACs in the campaign only, you can be sure about it :D.

Against an Ostwind, not so much :P. Maybe vs. a Panzer IV or Panther ???

RRs are good vs every tank.
Hitting light vehicles like pumas/acs sometimes is the problem
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Mad hatters in jeans on September 18, 2011, 11:37:28 PM
them and shreks have lolaccuracy. although if they do hit it's a good hit most of the time.
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Monos on September 19, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
Now this thread got interresting.. So they are supposed to be weak against light armor and good against tanks  :o

I allways thought it was the other way around.. Dang..

Tnx! :)
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 19, 2011, 12:08:30 AM
Not neccesarily. It can do good dmg to light armor. If it actually hit it :(. I guess the tank is too fricken big to phase through ;D. And the AC's and Pumas are better at kiting than tanks. And they have an effective AI gun :(. Take these into consideration and Airborne may fair better vs tanks.

If the phase thing wasn't there and both vehicles didn't move, Light armor would probably die faster
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: TheVolskinator on September 19, 2011, 04:12:16 AM
A single squad of AB in cover with RRs will beat a puma. Find a building, throw a satchel (crater -> yellow cover), find a bush, or build a sandbag. RRs arent your cheif source of AT either, they support your mainline shit, mainly your ATGs. RRs do the least amount of damage of all the infantry handheld AT, so keep that in mind the next time youre trying to solo that axis tank with one squad. You shouldnt try and finish off that immobilized puma either; if you can help it, leave it stranded to occupy his pop. He has to send something to repair it or has to waste resources to off-map it (assuming he went a doc that has off-maps).
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: Pac-Fish on September 19, 2011, 04:16:40 AM
LOL Damaged Puma = Pio bait ;D
Title: Re: Paratroopers sucks!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on September 19, 2011, 08:26:41 AM
Bish you forgot to lock.

We have concluded:
Whine thread - lock
L2Play - lock
RRs good against tanks, phase through LVs - lock
Verging on trolling - lock