Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Suggestions => Red Army Suggestions => Topic started by: Aleksander on December 21, 2011, 02:50:30 PM

Title: Correct flag
Post by: Aleksander on December 21, 2011, 02:50:30 PM: Hi all!

I know this is a small thing. But anyways. I noticed you were using this pattern of the flag in the game:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg/300px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png.

Actually the flag they used (1923-1955) was this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union_%281923-1955%29.svg
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: cephalos on December 21, 2011, 03:12:09 PM: ... and what's the difference?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 21, 2011, 04:25:27 PM: The hammer + sickle look a bit shrunk.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: GodlikeDennis on December 21, 2011, 04:34:24 PM: What an incredibly important and potentially gamebreaking detail...
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on December 21, 2011, 04:47:40 PM: Alexander no offense but do you know what "Dipfeleschisser (german/badisch)" is?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Killar on December 21, 2011, 06:27:09 PM: Well the flag does look different. But this mod and coh in general is not to show history in detail. As long as the flag is recognizable as soviets then its good.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Seeme on December 21, 2011, 09:58:50 PM: Lol at least its better then spam.

The difference from the one they use is the sickle goes farther in the top, the hammer stick goes slightly above the hammer,l and the sickle on blade on the bottom goes past the handle on the back.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: BurroDiablo on December 21, 2011, 10:12:49 PM: Hammer and sickle is too small on the ingame flags anyway. I'd be in favour of dropping the 'national' flag in favour of something a little more CoH, like the Star in a circle for the US, RAF style Roundel for the Brits, Iron Cross warflag for the Germans. I'd probably use a variation of the Red Army flag with a small hammer and sickle in the centre.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Cranialwizard on December 21, 2011, 10:47:39 PM: Quote from: BurroDiablo on December 21, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
Hammer and sickle is too small on the ingame flags anyway. I'd be in favour of dropping the 'national' flag in favour of something a little more CoH, like the Star in a circle for the US, RAF style Roundel for the Brits, Iron Cross warflag for the Germans. I'd probably use a variation of the Red Army flag with a small hammer and sickle in the centre.

A common allied logo for COH seems to be the circle around the symbol. I'd say put the soviet Sickle and Hammer inside of a circle or star in the middle of the flag tbh
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 22, 2011, 01:14:14 AM: Quote from: GodlikeDennis on December 21, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
What an incredibly important and potentially gamebreaking detail...

No need to be sarcastic :-\. Hes just pointing out a small thing he happened to have noticed and maybe other ppl missed it.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Blackbishop on December 22, 2011, 02:24:42 AM: Quote from: Unknown Location
New stuff for soviets:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)
Soviet flags (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)

[...]

Hey Burro, if you change the flag, remember to change these too :P.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Cranialwizard on December 22, 2011, 02:53:21 AM: Something I made in less than 1 Minute.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/editiha.png

This is the concept I was speaking of. Maybe add a little star on the cross inbetween the sickle/hammer
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: BurroDiablo on December 22, 2011, 05:54:55 AM: I was thinking of something like this, a simple variation of the Red Army flag

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Elburro/AEREA/new_soviet_flag.jpg)

In game alpha texture -

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Elburro/AEREA/sovietflag1.jpg)

We don't need to change the little way-point flags, they'll do fine ;)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 22, 2011, 09:37:52 AM: I like Burro's one.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Killar on December 22, 2011, 01:40:19 PM: Do we have to change it at all?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 22, 2011, 02:23:47 PM: It will be more historically accurate AND you won't have to sacrifice balance. Extremely rare in this game.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: BurroDiablo on December 22, 2011, 07:30:28 PM: Quote from: Killar on December 22, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
Do we have to change it at all?

To be honest, I've always had a gripe with the flags in game. It's one of those small cosmetic changes that would only take a few minutes to correct that we've neglected since release. We don't need to change it, no... but for the sake of a polished looking mod, it should be.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: SublimeSnugz on December 22, 2011, 09:25:16 PM: Quote from: BurroDiablo on December 22, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: Killar on December 22, 2011, 01:40:19 PM
Do we have to change it at all?

To be honest, I've always had a gripe with the flags in game. It's one of those small cosmetic changes that would only take a few minutes to correct that we've neglected since release. We don't need to change it, no... but for the sake of a polished looking mod, it should be.

+1
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: stealthattack1 on December 22, 2011, 10:53:37 PM: well, i might as well throw in my opinion, even though it most likely is not historically acurate at all, it gets points in the "looks like a beast" catergory.
this, (http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2448/soviet1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/soviet1.jpg/)

or maybe this,
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6607/soviet2m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/soviet2m.jpg/)

other than that,
What an incredibly important and potentially gamebreaking detail... +1 :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 23, 2011, 12:49:58 AM: I like ur second flag stealth. But it looks a bit unrealistic and photoshopped :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: 777mais777 on December 23, 2011, 12:55:31 AM: Quote from: Fishhunterx on December 23, 2011, 12:49:58 AM
I like ur second flag stealth. But it looks a bit unrealistic and photoshopped :P
+1 ::)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 23, 2011, 07:24:36 AM: So a brand new squad will be equipped with an old and tattered flag?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 23, 2011, 11:59:33 AM: Quote from: Tankbuster on December 23, 2011, 07:24:36 AM
So a brand new squad will be equipped with an old and tattered flag?

Maybe the ppl in charge of the barracks went looking for flags and they picked uo a bunch of old ones :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: 777mais777 on December 23, 2011, 12:33:14 PM: Quote from: Tankbuster on December 23, 2011, 07:24:36 AM
So a brand new squad will be equipped with an old and tattered flag?
Flag it is a relic. It is protected from year to year, therefore it is no wonder that it old. ;)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 23, 2011, 01:48:43 PM: IDK, people die before they let their nation's flag come to harm. In that case a brand new squad running around with a old and tattered flag they are supposed to be protecting with lives seems kinda strange.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: 777mais777 on December 23, 2011, 02:00:26 PM: Unless? In other case if the flag comes into the hands of the enemy, group to which posesses a flag - disband. Or not so? ::)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: stealthattack1 on December 23, 2011, 11:15:34 PM: hey, i never said that it was historically accurate, just looks boss. ;)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 24, 2011, 06:48:02 AM: Since you put it that way.... I guess so yeah ;D
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: 777mais777 on December 24, 2011, 03:05:23 PM: Quote from: blackbishop on December 22, 2011, 02:24:42 AM
Quote from: Unknown Location
New stuff for soviets:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)
Soviet flags (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)

[...]

Hey Burro, if you change the flag, remember to change these too :P.

Where are the assault engineers? ???
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on December 24, 2011, 03:08:24 PM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on December 24, 2011, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: blackbishop on December 22, 2011, 02:24:42 AM
Quote from: Unknown Location
New stuff for soviets:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)
Soviet flags (http://i39.tinypic.com/25sydls.jpg)

[...]

Hey Burro, if you change the flag, remember to change these too :P.

Where are the assault engineers? ???

all dead :(

R.I.P. my soldiers :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on December 24, 2011, 03:12:16 PM: Quote from: 777Mais777 on December 24, 2011, 03:05:23 PM
Where are the assault engineers? ???

Probably not researched yet.. ;)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 24, 2011, 03:22:07 PM: There is still suppose to be a box for them IIRC. It just doesnt let u build them b/c it says u need to reasearch Sturmoive Ingenery (excuse my spelling)

Potential spoiler?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on December 24, 2011, 03:24:37 PM: you will see it probably in our next shoutcast^^
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: GodlikeDennis on December 24, 2011, 04:08:19 PM: Someone quickly remove that picture! SPOILER SPOILER!!!@!!! LOLZ
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Killar on December 24, 2011, 04:34:31 PM: lol? didnt even realize this.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 24, 2011, 05:53:25 PM: Quote from: GodlikeDennis on December 24, 2011, 04:08:19 PM
Someone quickly remove that picture! SPOILER SPOILER!!!@!!! LOLZ

LOL I found another spoiler :P. With the help of 777Mais777 :D
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Blackbishop on December 24, 2011, 06:03:27 PM: lol... it was never my intention to force Burro to change the flags and I could did it on the Dev section :P. Yes, it was a spoiler in every sense of the name :P.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: stealthattack1 on December 24, 2011, 07:05:08 PM: i think im missing the spoiler.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Killar on December 24, 2011, 07:13:54 PM: Well thats not really a spoiler. There are much more bigger changes made than this little one
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 24, 2011, 08:26:44 PM: Quote from: stealthattack1 on December 24, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
i think im missing the spoiler.

The spoiler(or somewhat a spoiler) is that the Sturminove Ingenery used to be built from the HQ. Now they are not and have probably either been moved to another building , removed from gameplay, or possibly placed into a doctrine tree (which IMO isnt such a bad idea)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Killar on December 24, 2011, 08:28:57 PM: Lol wrong guessing ;D
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 24, 2011, 08:29:43 PM: Quote from: Killar on December 24, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
Lol wrong guessing ;D

God damn it I actually thought I was correct >:(

Everyone keep guessing ;D ;D
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Blackbishop on December 24, 2011, 08:34:10 PM: Quote from: Killar on December 24, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Well thats not really a spoiler. There are much more bigger changes made than this little one
And being a small spoiler means that is no spoiler ::). There are two spoilers on that pic, just that both represent very small changes and the second one doesn't say too much of what really occurred to that unit :P.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 24, 2011, 08:38:05 PM: Quote from: blackbishop on December 24, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: Killar on December 24, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Well thats not really a spoiler. There are much more bigger changes made than this little one
And being a small spoiler means that is no spoiler ::). There are two spoilers on that pic, just that both represent very small changes and the second one doesn't say too much of what really occurred to that unit :P.

Yes but any spoiler we (everyone that doesnt have access to ur patch) can get is nice

And is the spoiler that the SU now starts of with more reasources b/c the building now cost more reasources ???
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: stealthattack1 on December 24, 2011, 08:56:47 PM: hmm. if sturmovie inerjey are being removed, i might not get the next patch. those guys are beast!
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: GodlikeDennis on December 25, 2011, 01:38:10 AM: Fish got one.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 25, 2011, 02:19:23 AM: Quote from: GodlikeDennis on December 25, 2011, 01:38:10 AM
Fish got one.

Hooray! I found both :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 25, 2011, 10:59:17 AM: What's the 2nd one?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 25, 2011, 04:04:56 PM: 1st: Sturmotive hve been changed (not 100% sure what the change was)

2nd:SU buildings now cost fuel as Yauz's idea has been implemented :P
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on December 25, 2011, 04:34:00 PM: How did you get the 2nd one?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Pac-Fish on December 25, 2011, 11:05:28 PM: Look at the reasources you start off wth in the picture. And if u recall Sublime suggested changing building cost so players can so eithe Infantry or WSC (SU version of it :P)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: GodlikeDennis on December 26, 2011, 03:36:07 AM: Mustering Tent now costs 35 fuel and Soviets begin the game with 35. That way, they can choose a normal barracks start or can get one support barracks upgrade.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Dot.Shadow on January 11, 2012, 02:14:07 PM: And the Command Squad still requires the mustering tent? :S

Hopefully it just requires either.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 11, 2012, 03:59:51 PM: No, CS is only available with a MT build. Starting with SSB will mean you can't build him until you build a MT.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Tankbuster on January 11, 2012, 04:24:45 PM: What!!!
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 11, 2012, 05:33:11 PM: sounds like wsc start for soviets is crap. you dont even get mgs, which is kinda the whole reason for wsc starts. it just hard to win early game battles with snipers an tank hunters, and mortar crews.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Blackbishop on January 11, 2012, 05:52:08 PM: This is already on the current patch, don't know why the fuss about it ;).
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: 777mais777 on January 11, 2012, 08:35:59 PM: Sounds interesting How I understand you have decided to make huge changes? ::)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: conscript900 on February 05, 2012, 07:11:16 AM: Quote from: blackbishop on January 11, 2012, 05:52:08 PM
This is already on the current patch, don't know why the fuss about it ;).
do you plan on doing what they did in cross of iron, put the teams flag on the manpower/ammunition/fuel points when capptured? example:us has us flag instead of circled star?
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Blackbishop on February 05, 2012, 07:34:31 AM: We can't atm, that's hardcoded.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: conscript900 on February 05, 2012, 07:43:45 AM: Quote from: blackbishop on February 05, 2012, 07:34:31 AM
We can't atm, that's hardcoded.
oh, too bad, well at least i know it cant be done here. thanks for the info! :)
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: Aleksander on July 11, 2013, 02:53:13 AM: I thought, that people would be interested in historical accuracy, for the game. Yes, it's a really small thing and an thing that most people wouldn't even care about, but I was just pointing it out. Not really the best way, to treat new ideas from the community.
Title: Re: Correct flag
Post by: BurroDiablo on July 11, 2013, 01:12:15 PM: By agreeing? Terrible, so terrible, I'll make sure to disagree more often. I'll start here... self satisfying bump, thread locked.