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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pac-Fish on January 03, 2012, 04:58:50 AM

Title: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 03, 2012, 04:58:50 AM
When you play Operation Panzerkrieg can you chose the option to use T-34s? Or any SU tanks for that matter?

If not can a Operation Panzerkrieg be made (in the future) that has Ostheer tanks + Wher(or something else, just filling in a gap) tanks vs SU tanks + RMC tanks :P

I think I'd be a cool idea. And we could either use or make a special EF map for this. No, I cant make any of this myself (I wish I could) but its just a suggestion  :P
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: neosdark on January 03, 2012, 05:37:55 AM
Personally I'd prefer a Soviet Style Operation Stonewall.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 03, 2012, 05:43:53 AM
We already discussed this gamemode ages back.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 03, 2012, 05:48:54 AM
We already discussed this gamemode ages back.

Oh well I honestly wasn't aware of this. Im assuming this wasn't agreed on.

But are you willing to convene again and reconsider? Im not saying this should be done now. But can it be taken into consideration?
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Tankbuster on January 03, 2012, 05:49:59 AM
I wake up and see this.


T-34s please.



Please reconsider it. On the other hand it would be better if it were taken up after Ostheer.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 03, 2012, 05:53:04 AM
I wake up and see this.

LOL Good Morning 8)
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 03, 2012, 05:56:16 AM
When I say "we", I don't mean the balance or dev team. I mean the community had a thread going somewhere around here didn't they? We were discussing all sorts of operations, like Tiger Hunt and EF themed Panzerkrieg.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 03, 2012, 05:58:26 AM
I would honestly like more operations like Tiger Hunt. But for now lets focus on a Operation thats already been made + established + has good working rules and make it more SU like ;D

As for units, maybe there can be Comet(or M10 achilles or SU-85), T-34, and T-70(or some other light armor) for Allies and Panzer III, Jagdpanzer IV, and some other Axis tank :P. I dont know all the Ostheer tanks thats why ;D
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: SnappingTurtle on January 04, 2012, 05:58:48 PM
Panzerkrieg sucks anyway.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Tankbuster on January 04, 2012, 06:38:15 PM
I would honestly like more operations like Tiger Hunt. But for now lets focus on a Operation thats already been made + established + has good working rules and make it more SU like ;D

As for units, maybe there can be Comet(or M10 achilles or SU-85), T-34, and T-70(or some other light armor) for Allies and Panzer III, Jagdpanzer IV, and some other Axis tank :P. I dont know all the Ostheer tanks thats why ;D
You forgot the tiger.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 05, 2012, 01:09:44 AM
I would honestly like more operations like Tiger Hunt. But for now lets focus on a Operation thats already been made + established + has good working rules and make it more SU like ;D

As for units, maybe there can be Comet(or M10 achilles or SU-85), T-34, and T-70(or some other light armor) for Allies and Panzer III, Jagdpanzer IV, and some other Axis tank :P. I dont know all the Ostheer tanks thats why ;D
You forgot the tiger.

Well I think a Tiger would be OP. Unless SU gets IS-2, IS-3, or ISU-152  :P
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 07, 2012, 11:17:24 PM
Matchup:

T34-KV1-IS2

VS

Panzer IV-Jagdpanzer IV-Tiger?
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: neosdark on January 07, 2012, 11:32:32 PM
Mayhap a KV-85 not KV-1, it would be a bit more fair vs. Jagdpanzer IV.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 07, 2012, 11:35:51 PM
If you want a SPG on the German side, you have to have also one on Soviet side:

T-34/76 - SU-76 - IS-2

               vs.

Panzer IV - Marder III - Tiger (Panther)
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 07, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
You could give SU a KV-1 and allow them to upgrade to KV-85. Just like the Sherman can in regular Panzerkrieg  :P
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Dot.Shadow on January 08, 2012, 01:35:43 AM
I haven't played a whole lot of Panzerkrieg, but wouldn't it perhaps be better to go for the SU-100 and a Jagdpanzer IV so that the SPGs actually have a chance at taking out the heavier tanks?
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Andreas on January 09, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
Why not give it an overhaul, like:

5 factions: Wehrmacht, Panzer Elite, Commonwealth, United States and USSR.

Then each faction have 5 tanks each:

Wehrmacht:
Tiger (or heck, even king tiger! It will be easy out maneuvered by light tanks, and very slow. Gives a lot of VPs when destroyed)
Panzer IV
Panther? - Stug? - Other?

PE:
Panther? - Jagdpanther?
Hotchkiss
Hetzer

British:
Cromwell? - Stuart?
Firefly
Churchill

United states:
Hellcat
Sherman
Perhing? - M10?

USSR:
T34
IS-2 - SPG?
SPG? - Light tank?

And then the 6 abilities to each. The current panzerkrieg is good, but there just isn't that many tanks. And maybe a new map.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: SublimeSnugz on January 09, 2012, 07:05:00 PM
Keep the orignal but add 1 Soviet and 1 Ostheer to the existing gamemode + maybe a new map.

Soviet: T34

Ostheer: Tiger

Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Andreas on January 09, 2012, 07:13:14 PM
But you have to remove a tank then..
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: SublimeSnugz on January 09, 2012, 07:14:34 PM
But you have to remove a tank then..

why?
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Andreas on January 09, 2012, 07:18:06 PM
Because one tank have one doctrine each. And you can only have 3 doctrines - hardcoded.
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on January 09, 2012, 07:18:30 PM
Yes you can only have 3 doctrines... In these case there are only 3 tanks so it's full :/
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Andreas on January 09, 2012, 07:23:42 PM
#Snugz - youa re a dane i see :) Hej! - godt nytår!

#Others: I think the only way to solve this, it to give the game mode a huge overhaul.. But that wouldnt be a bad thing :)
 Look at my post some lines above ^
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 09, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
There is no problem actually. It's currently like this: There is one tank of each Commonwealth (Churchill) and Panzer Elite (Hotchkiss), and two for Wehrmacht (Panzer IV, Panther) and the Allies (Hellcat, Sherman). If we would exchange one of the Wehrmacht's/Allies' tanks by a Ostheer/Soviet tank, there is one tank for each faction.
You could easily exchange the Panther by an Ostheer Tiger (or Panther, but wouldn't make perfect sense) and the Sherman by a T-34/76, it can be upgunned like a Sherman (or Hellcat by a T-34/85).
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: SublimeSnugz on January 09, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
Because one tank have one doctrine each. And you can only have 3 doctrines - hardcoded.
Oh i didnt knew that i havent played those operations in ages. I guess a overhaul is needed afterall then  :)


#Snugz - youa re a dane i see :) Hej! - godt nytår!

@Anderes - Mange tak og i lige måde! Godt at se endnu en dansker her heh :)
Title: Re: Operation: Panzerkrieg - EF style
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 10, 2012, 02:52:09 AM
There is no problem actually. It's currently like this: There is one tank of each Commonwealth (Churchill) and Panzer Elite (Hotchkiss), and two for Wehrmacht (Panzer IV, Panther) and the Allies (Hellcat, Sherman). If we would exchange one of the Wehrmacht's/Allies' tanks by a Ostheer/Soviet tank, there is one tank for each faction.
You could easily exchange the Panther by an Ostheer Tiger (or Panther, but wouldn't make perfect sense) and the Sherman by a T-34/76, it can be upgunned like a Sherman (or Hellcat by a T-34/85).

Lets make a new Panzerkreig raather than changing 2 tanks

SU:
T-34 with option to get 85mm upgrade
IS-2 but some stats may need to be changed
SU-85 or T-70(with powerful upgrades for the T-70)

Ostheer:
Panzer IV
Tiger (with reduced stats ofc)
Stug III or Panzer III