Company of Heroes: Eastern Front

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Title: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 03, 2012, 06:40:44 PM
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Hello Eastern Front fans!

Hope everyone had a good New Year eve! As we are about to finish balance for Soviets in Eastern Front, we need more balancers for final testing.

You should be a experienced player (at least 2-3 years of playing CoH), should understand the (USSR-) gameplay-design and you should be able to work as part of a team. We don't want players that only can be available at weekends or some days at the week for playing and you also should post in the internal forum for suggestions and issues, we don't want "lone wolves" either, Eastern Front balance is not brought over Compstomping(skirmishes) but through PvP matches.

The best way to show your skills, is to send us a replay of you playing a 1v1 on a open map, either from vCoH or the latest version of Eastern Front(1.5.1.0). The game should last at least 15 minutes and should have an equal enemy.

Dont forget that testing is not a challenge, so its not about winning or loosing or getting better stats! So if you love the mod and want to get it better, apply on the application section of the forums (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=6.0).

At last but not least, I'd like to point out that we are running a Mentor/mentee program, in order to help players to familiarize with soviets, so if you are interested in learn how to play as soviets or against or you are experienced enough to help other players with this task, you can check this topic: Mentor/mentee-program for EF (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=7104).

If you want to upload a replay, you can use the host server you like(Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com), SpeedyShare (http://www.speedyshare.com/) and post the link here or any other you may prefer) or you can use our uploader, just need to post the reply(or modify an existant one) using the "Reply" button instead of the "Quick Reply" function and click over "Addtional Options"; then you will see the elements you need to upload your files.

Regards,
The Eastern Front Team
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: SublimeSnugz on January 03, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
My Most Beloved Friend Zerstorer,

I have long thought of joining the EF balance team.  Alas, because of unforeseen dilemmas in our most dear friendship, I understand that despite your best efforts, you have been unable to accommodate Sublime back into the balance team.  I understand there are openings for the balance team now.  I may be but a humble noob compared to your expert CoH skills, but please allow myself and my friends from Sublime to assist you in further enhancing the EF mod that I have no doubt you are working so very hard on right now. You can find any of my replays at the EF Replays Section of our forum.  I cannot wait to assist you in the long hours of labor you are putting into this mod right now, and I express my utmost gratitude to you for adding the RMC, a faction no doubt beyond balance.

Your Old Friend,
Sublime Snugz.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 03, 2012, 09:55:12 PM
man i want to, but i dont have the time, nor the skill. sorry. maybe next year.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Panzer4life on January 03, 2012, 10:38:35 PM
I have the time most of the week to test, and I have 2 years of experience with CoH. So I will send my application to the application board with a decent 1v1 game i did, though it be on VCoH as i can't really find anyone to play online with EF.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 03, 2012, 11:07:27 PM
Maybe when my schooling ends, but for now I am only available on the weekends. I will try to play more PvP games though and get people I play with to join the forums.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Sommarkatze on January 03, 2012, 11:48:13 PM
Here is my chance to be one of the boys! <3
I have been playing Coh since it first came out in 2006 and the EF mod for like 2 years? I do spent ridicalous much time here on the forum and all.
The only problem I see is that I havent play the USSR och USA much. I know the factions and all its doctrine but only through fighting against them XD I have to get familiar with those 2 first. Then if Iam lucky I will send an reply with an nice match! :D


( How do I send replays again? XD)
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Dann88 on January 04, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
I have played CoH since 2.5 patch, Ef mod since version 1.0. My best faction is Wehr but I'm very adaptive and learning any strats and tatics just after 1 match/replay. I nearly can play CoH-EF in anytime necessary except when I have tests or must attend in a project in school.
If today any other applicators contact me through PM, then I and him/her will have a fresh replay right away if not then I will find friends someone to make one soon.
PS: Should I attach the replay in the application or in replay section? Should I make a new post in application too?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 04, 2012, 01:04:51 AM
@Dann88
New post on the application section, and attach the replay there ;).
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 04, 2012, 01:15:40 AM
Here is my chance to be one of the boys! <3
I have been playing Coh since it first came out in 2006 and the EF mod for like 2 years? I do spent ridicalous much time here on the forum and all.
The only problem I see is that I havent play the USSR och USA much. I know the factions and all its doctrine but only through fighting against them XD I have to get familiar with those 2 first. Then if Iam lucky I will send an reply with an nice match! :D


( How do I send replays again? XD)

If you want to upload a replay, you can use the host server you like(Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com), SpeedyShare (http://www.speedyshare.com/) and post the link here or any other you may prefer) or you can use our uploader, just need to post the reply(or modify an existant one) using the "Reply" button instead of the "Quick Reply" function and click over "Addtional Options"; then you will see the elements you need to upload your files.

Updated first post too.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 04, 2012, 01:49:52 AM
I would help and have tme but unfortunetly Im not so hot when it comes to USSR :P. At least I have basic understanding and some advanced knowledge of other factions. WIth USSR Im kinda lost :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: donthateme on January 04, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
WIth USSR Im kinda lost :P

Well, thats a problem since we are balancing USSR-faction.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 04, 2012, 02:41:51 AM
WIth USSR Im kinda lost :P

Well, thats a problem since we are balancing USSR-faction.

I guess this is a WIP balancer gig then :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Dann88 on January 04, 2012, 03:16:37 AM
Most of people feel lost because as far as I know, because there is no official guide for the Soviets (correct me if I'm wrong). Most of Soviet tatic and strat tips are so scattered and therefore can not be attached together to make something completely logical. Sorry because of off-topic. There will be my fresh replay in... 6 hours.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: donthateme on January 04, 2012, 03:22:41 AM
Most of people feel lost because as far as I know, because there is no official guide for the Soviets (correct me if I'm wrong). Most of Soviet tatic and strat tips are so scattered and therefore can not be attached together to make something completely logical. Sorry because of off-topic. There will be my fresh replay in... 6 hours.

Im writing a very detailed strategy-guide for USSR at the moment. As there are a lot of strategys and things to say, it will take some time. But as the next patch will change a lot gameplay-wise, I wont release it before the patch is out cause otherwise it wont be up to date.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 04, 2012, 04:10:24 AM
Is Cranial still working on that begineers tutorial guide for all the SU buildings, units, and abilities or are you undertaking that now  ???
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: donthateme on January 04, 2012, 04:23:58 AM
Is Cranial still working on that begineers tutorial guide for all the SU buildings, units, and abilities or are you undertaking that now  ???

IIRC that guide was never finished and is already outdated now... but I will pass this guide to the balance-team anyways before relasing it
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 04, 2012, 04:51:34 AM
Is Cranial still working on that begineers tutorial guide for all the SU buildings, units, and abilities or are you undertaking that now  ???

IIRC that guide was never finished and is already outdated now... but I will pass this guide to the balance-team anyways before relasing it

Because of miscommunication it was never patched like I asked (COUGH....)

So I'd have to redo and re-update it onto a new program which would take hours of my time....of which little I have :( Exams are closing in.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Dann88 on January 04, 2012, 05:27:48 AM
My replay for the application is here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=6941
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 04, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
The only way to perfect balance Company of Heroes is allow mirror match. Can you do that?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 04, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
What is mirror match?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 04, 2012, 10:36:31 PM
american vs American;
Brit vs Brit;
PE vs PE;
Wher vs Wher;

American + Wher vs Brit + PE...
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 04, 2012, 10:37:55 PM
And what that has to do with the fact we are looking for balancers? :-\... IMO you are pushing for a different agenda.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 04, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
The only way to perfect balance Company of Heroes is allow mirror match. Can you do that?

btw this is not the perfect balance, this is the most worse change i could imagine!
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 04, 2012, 10:48:40 PM
So, i have to create a new topic for have a answer?

The reasons(but not all of then):
First of all, the vanilla game balance is a trash, and looks like EF dont wanna change vanilla things;
Second, you never gona find the necessary number of imparcial high skilled players. Everyone have his favorite faction and most people gona try benefit his own.
Third, COH is so complex that should have one balance for 1v1 and another completelly different for 2v2
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 04, 2012, 10:51:32 PM
you dont need to create a new topic for this
i can also answer you here.

this will never happen!

end of transmission :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 04, 2012, 11:18:17 PM
So, i have to create a new topic for have a answer?

The reasons(but not all of then):
First of all, the vanilla game balance is a trash, and looks like EF dont wanna change vanilla things;
Second, you never gona find the necessary number of imparcial high skilled players. Everyone have his favorite faction and most people gona try benefit his own.
Third, COH is so complex that should have one balance for 1v1 and another completelly different for 2v2
The answer was already given, you can use the search function to find it. In either case was NO.

Also, you are contradicting yourself. If we cannot get decent balancers how are we going to balance, let's say US vs US? Does allowing such proposal helps EF at all?

Unless you want a mindless game, everything here needs balance.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 05, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
Also the play style is different. If Im correct Americans are aggresive and Wher is defensive. Pitting 2 aggresive factions with equal infantry or 2 defensive factions with med bunkers and panthers eerywhere is just....weird? This isnt Command and Conquer where you can pit the same faction against itself  :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Ghost on January 05, 2012, 03:30:12 AM
american vs American;
Brit vs Brit;
PE vs PE;
Wher vs Wher
;

American + Wher vs Brit + PE...
ehm, why????? you wanna balance US vs. US?
to get balance you need to play all POSSIBLE combinations of allies vs. axis and look for imbalance there. playing allies vs. allies  or axis vs. axis brings you nothing :D

edit: guess i finally got what you mean, lol. but that wouldn't change anything. all other combinations would still be "imbalanced".

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Quote
First of all, the vanilla game balance is a trash, and looks like EF dont wanna change vanilla things
hm, there were some vCoh balance changes...  :-X
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Celution on January 05, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
The only way to perfect balance Company of Heroes is allow mirror match. Can you do that?

Sorry to say, but you are wrong.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Tankbuster on January 05, 2012, 09:31:57 AM
Play NHC combiner mod. That will whet your mirror appetite.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: DjeyDjey on January 05, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
Hello all,

Killar and Donthateme asked me if I was interrested to become a balancer? Why me? I'm just ranked lvl 10-11 with all faction in 1v1 & 2v2... I think I know quite good the vcoh faction but I'm so fucking slow as the french snail eater who I am...
Concerning the replay... I try to make a gg at the moment and it is really hard to find somebody as slow as me.... If Donthateme can post the replays where he rapes me twice...


If you accept, I would like to become a balancer.

hf
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 06, 2012, 12:08:43 AM
@DjeyDjey: You could mentor ppl of less skill :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Joshua9 on January 06, 2012, 11:32:37 PM

I'd love to be a part of the balancing team.  My play skills aren't remarkable, but I always try to make reasoned posts about the things I find unbalanced, a few of which have been more or less vindicated over time.  I would offer my friend up into the mix as well.  He's my standard opponent, and an equal one.  Neither of us play particularly conventionally, which probably means that some of our tactics are ill-advised against better players, but also showcases different unit make-ups that may be useful in honing balance as it pertains to unlikely(and thus glossed over) engagements.

I'll see if we can't play a few games, and find a good replay out of it to post.


-Josh


Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 07, 2012, 04:49:22 AM
Sorry people, just can't get this out of my mind. WHAT IF???? we made one super axis faction faction to fight the completely unbalanced 1.2 soviets with God of War, commissioner and all the crazy unit stats. Ostheer, WH, and PE would all be combined with 3 huge tech trees. This would make the mod seem more like the large scale battles of the Eastern Front.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 07, 2012, 04:50:19 AM
Maybe we could make an COH EF movie with such a mod  :D
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: SublimeSnugz on January 07, 2012, 04:57:00 AM
Sorry people, just can't get this out of my mind. WHAT IF???? we made one super axis faction faction to fight the completely unbalanced 1.2 soviets with God of War, commissioner and all the crazy unit stats. Ostheer, WH, and PE would all be combined with 3 huge tech trees. This would make the mod seem more like the large scale battles of the Eastern Front.

LOL wuuuuuut? That would ruin everything   ;D, and it will be nothing of what the mod (Originally) tries to achive - being a unofficial expansion to Company Of Heroes. I love the mod too much to let that EVER happen!  :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 07, 2012, 06:39:23 AM
I'm just kidding guys. O0 The balancers on this mod are doing an awesome job.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: sgtyoda on January 07, 2012, 05:29:17 PM
Well, i want to apply  to be a balancer because i think i have the skill and the experience with EF and company of heroes . I play since 2009 and used to be lvl 16 with US 1v1 and i play EF since it was released , plus i have a few ideas to improve the balance of the game. My main account is 3PastelE1Choops.

The replay link  vs Baralhaum PE lvl 14 1x1 and 16 at 2x2
I was playing with USSR.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0525p6i69d3uc3u
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 07, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
Hey Yoda!

Pls upload your replay on a external server because EF forum only gives me a index.php file (not your fault). Is it a EF replay or a vanilla one?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: titan on January 07, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
Hey Yoda!

Pls upload your replay on a external server because EF forum only gives me a index.php file (not your fault). Is it a EF replay or a vanilla one?
This the link to the file of his,it seems my idm works just fine with the forum..
http://205.196.123.162/60javfztg5hg/g7ckpfquzhezikq/%5BEF%5DLangres.rec?
It is a EF game i think
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 07, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
Hey Yoda!

Pls upload your replay on a external server because EF forum only gives me a index.php file (not your fault). Is it a EF replay or a vanilla one?
Rename the index.php to the correct filename manually.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: sgtyoda on January 07, 2012, 07:45:25 PM
Fixed
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 10, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
You only play US? Pls post at least a soviet replay
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: sgtyoda on January 10, 2012, 01:42:30 PM
I think it is a soviet against PE replay , isn't it ?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 10, 2012, 01:57:45 PM
The one where you spam THs? Yeah it's PE vs Sov.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Ghost on January 10, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
@all those people bashing the balance team:
have you EVER tried to balance a game? that's a time consuming task, but the balance team is doing a great job (btw thanks guys for sacrificing your free time). if you don't believe: try to download the first EF version and take a look at what happenend since then  ::)

so how about we all go back to topic now?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 10, 2012, 06:48:30 PM
Almost one page filled with unnecessary comments.. hey guys settle down this issue NOW. There's no benefit for anyone being engaged in this argument so there's no need to continue this.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 11, 2012, 07:12:35 PM
@Dann88
Don't forget to attach a replay.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 11, 2012, 07:34:57 PM
Oh, sorry.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on January 11, 2012, 08:16:23 PM
I'm willingly learn more about Soviet strategic before upload a Soviet replay. I didn't know any offcial Soviet's build order until now :P Sorry

Quote
[...]should understand the (USSR-) gameplay-design[...]

?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 11, 2012, 08:23:21 PM
this is partly the reason i didnt apply.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 12, 2012, 07:35:13 PM
(...)

Also, you are contradicting yourself. If we cannot get decent balancers how are we going to balance, let's say US vs US? Does allowing such proposal helps EF at all?

Unless you want a mindless game, everything here needs balance.

I hope the first question is a joke. Helps cause more players gona join, running away from Vanilla unbalance or looking for something new.

I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 12, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
Play NHC combiner mod. That will whet your mirror appetite.

Not exactly what i want, but is a good. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 12, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.

And exactly that is the problem, this attitude is crucial for Eastern Front. People always complain that there are no basic matches and leave. How the heck should it be able to establish if players like you keep on doing that? Bring some patience, get yourself a beer or a coffee, depends on your choice. You could also take a trip to the forums and ask for a game, there is always someone willing to play.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 12, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
With the current balance i just dont like to play. On the past, i used to host a game, wait 10 mins, without a match.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 12, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
What's wrong with the current balance compared to how it used to be in former versions? The latter were a disaster, the Red Army was more than OP, it just steamrolled everything that crossed its way. Wait for 1.6, the final Soviet balance patch. Then I'd like to hear what you've got to say.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Baralhaum on January 12, 2012, 07:51:03 PM
People who say "final" or "definitive" patch is too optimistic. COH is too complex for it.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 12, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
That's true, even Relic didn't achieve a perfect balance after five years of development and various patches, so how should a small balance team of 5 or 6 guys be able to do that, working without getting paid? But I guarantee you, I played the internal beta for 1.6 and Soviets come very close to that which is defined as "final(ly)" or "definitive(ly)" balanced.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 12, 2012, 08:03:49 PM
(...)

Also, you are contradicting yourself. If we cannot get decent balancers how are we going to balance, let's say US vs US? Does allowing such proposal helps EF at all?

Unless you want a mindless game, everything here needs balance.

I hope the first question is a joke. Helps cause more players gona join, running away from Vanilla unbalance or looking for something new.

I dont want a mindless game, i just feel sad to log in on EF, found 3 or 4 skirmishes and no basic matchs.
I don't really think that allowing mirrored matches would bring the kind players we are looking for. Relic never intended to do it, that's why we haven't done such thing.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 12, 2012, 08:13:21 PM
What's wrong with the current balance compared to how it used to be in former versions? The latter were a disaster, the Red Army was more than OP, it just steamrolled everything that crossed its way. Wait for 1.6, the final Soviet balance patch. Then I'd like to hear what you've got to say.
That's what I keep thinking when I see someone saying how broken soviets are ::).
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 12, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
The 1.6 balance thread is officially larger than the 1.5 thread. Up to 121 pages as of now.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 12, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
With the current balance i just dont like to play. On the past, i used to host a game, wait 10 mins, without a match.

Agree current balance doesn´t attract competetive players. But wait for 1.6, im sure more basic matches will be in the lobby then ;)
 
About the "final" thingy. That doesn´t mean the balance is perfect. It needs tons of games to achieve that. Just look at coh which is still broken (thx to reborn guys with the latest patch).

We hope that high lvl players will test our next patch and suggest improvments, if there are still some issues left.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: cephalos on January 12, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
With the current balance i just dont like to play. On the past, i used to host a game, wait 10 mins, without a match.

Agree current balance doesn´t attract competetive players. But wait for 1.6, im sure more basic matches will be in the lobby then ;)
 
About the "final" thingy. That doesn´t mean the balance is perfect. It needs tons of games to achieve that. Just look at coh which is still broken (thx to reborn guys with the latest patch).

We hope that high lvl players will test our next patch and suggest improvments, if there are still some issues left.

and how many things to balance you have? Dozens, a lot, many, not so many, few?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 12, 2012, 08:46:55 PM
That would be telling. :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 12, 2012, 11:39:09 PM
What's wrong with the current balance compared to how it used to be in former versions? The latter were a disaster, the Red Army was more than OP, it just steamrolled everything that crossed its way. Wait for 1.6, the final Soviet balance patch. Then I'd like to hear what you've got to say.
That's what I keep thinking when I see someone saying how broken soviets are ::).

HAHA. ITs funny b/c even though SU was OP, I still lost most games XD

I think we should judge (or give constructive critisim) once 1.6 comes out. Not now. Be patient  :D
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 13, 2012, 12:44:34 AM
iirc there is atm only one soviet unit we havent changed :D
i think that says everything XD
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 13, 2012, 12:52:24 AM
May I inquire what that unit is :P?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 13, 2012, 12:57:50 AM
IMO every soviet unit was modified for 1.60 :P... Nvm, I think I have read the changelog and know what unit is ;D.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 13, 2012, 02:01:06 AM
Now you make me want to see the changelog... :P
Any estimated time or perhaps percentage of how much it has been finished?
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 13, 2012, 02:08:50 AM
The patch?

hmmm i think about 90% finished. Main part are the balance improvments.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: stealthattack1 on January 13, 2012, 02:29:28 AM
one unit? wow. all my (nonexistent) soviet strategies down the drain. i bet the unit is either the injenery or conscript squad.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 13, 2012, 02:35:13 AM
It's not either of those. Think larger.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 13, 2012, 03:22:57 AM
KV ???
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 13, 2012, 03:38:10 AM
The 1.6 balance thread is officially larger than the 1.5 thread. Up to 121 pages as of now.

Not sure how that is possible. :P I deeply respect your effort, but do not have the time to help. :'( But I will do one thing, on the weekends I will try and host at least 2 basic matches. If others follow this lead, we will bring the community back to life.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 13, 2012, 03:58:20 AM
KV ???

One of them. Good guess.

Balancing takes a LOT of time. We're pretty confident that 1.6 will be a great patch. There may be some issues that can be hotfixed but for the most part, Soviets are done for good.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 13, 2012, 04:14:27 AM
KV ???

One of them. Good guess.

Balancing takes a LOT of time. We're pretty confident that 1.6 will be a great patch. There may be some issues that can be hotfixed but for the most part, Soviets are done for good.

Is the IS-3 the same ???
Isn't that what you balancers said about 1.5? ;). Im sure there will always be more things to balance :D
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: GodlikeDennis on January 13, 2012, 04:52:19 AM
There always is. However, 1.5 was pretty balanced but had some serious design issues still present. 1.6 hopefully fixes everything.

IS-3 was touched on a little.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 13, 2012, 06:48:08 AM
i think we can say that 1.60 is the version 1.0 should have been

or in other words its more like a rerelease of the soviets :D
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: My Name Is Ante on January 13, 2012, 06:50:19 AM
i think we can say that 1.60 is the version 1.0 should have been

or in other words its more like a rerelease of the soviets :D
Again, that just like what you said when 1.5 released...

And again, I become even more impatient to played it just like 1.5... :D
Good luck Dev!!!! ;)
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: billhuang1224 on January 13, 2012, 12:19:32 PM
I can't play EF mod because I installed the game in (D:)not in (C)
so it can't read the game???I use WIN7.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 13, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
I can't play EF mod because I installed the game in (D:)not in (C)
so it can't read the game???I use WIN7.

Then try to deinstall the game and install it again. Maybe some files corrupted.

Again, that just like what you said when 1.5 released...

1.5 was a major improvment to the former version but had still some serious design and balance issues left. With the current patch we try to fix these. What remains to be done are little changes to make balance better. This needs alot of playing to find out. Just like in vcoh.

i think we can say that 1.60 is the version 1.0 should have been

or in other words its more like a rerelease of the soviets :D

exactly
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 13, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
I can't play EF mod because I installed the game in (D:)not in (C)
so it can't read the game???I use WIN7.
First of all, next time please create your topic in the correct section.

Second, if you have your CoH dir in a different path than the default one, just select the correct path while installing and when running the launcher for the first time go to the Settings menu and double check if your "CoH Directory" option has the correct path.

Remember to install the mod in your "Company of Heroes" directory and not in any other self-made directories like "Company of Heroes\EF" or "Company of Heroes\EasternFront" and so on.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: delmar77 on January 14, 2012, 12:51:02 AM
1,6 this size the su76 fix?? I now... that is minimal priority... :-\
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 14, 2012, 01:20:02 AM
No, soviet vehicles will be addressed later. But you can sure they are not forgotten ;).
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: billhuang1224 on January 16, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
I can play v1.0 well. But I can't play the latest. Why?
Do I need to upgrade to 2.602(COH) to play the latest?!
My COH now is 2.601~
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 16, 2012, 12:50:39 PM
@billhuadng

yes you have to update to the latest relic patch (2.602) then everything should work again
but in the future plz use the right place four your question
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 16, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
I wonder why somehow people feel it's justified to post their errors in the most recent announcement.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 16, 2012, 09:21:23 PM
Cause it the most viewed topic atm so I guess they will have the best chance of getting their complaint or problem noticed :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 16, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
That guy will have a big surprise if he has been playing 1.0 this whole time 8)
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on January 16, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
Cause it the most viewed topic atm so I guess they will have the best chance of getting their complaint or problem noticed :P

and that's why this is a senseless to talk offtopic here so if you don't talk about the topic then don't post!
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 16, 2012, 10:04:44 PM
Cause it the most viewed topic atm so I guess they will have the best chance of getting their complaint or problem noticed :P

and that's why this is a senseless to talk offtopic here so if you don't talk about the topic then don't post!

Chill mate, I started it, yell at me.

We are looking primarily for balancers for 1.7+, by the way.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 16, 2012, 10:31:43 PM
1.7? But 1.6 isn't out yet :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Max 'DonXavi' von B. on January 16, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
It makes no sense to include new balancers for the balance of 1.6 which has been running for months now. Let the guys experienced in that task do it, after that, there may be some fresh air. But in the current situation, balance shouldn't be disturbed by new guys having to get used to team and task.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 16, 2012, 10:35:09 PM
The current patch is nearly done, and the release date is very close, we are not going to have time to make them adapt to the new version in order to help in the tests.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 16, 2012, 10:40:10 PM
If thats the case then maybe new balancers should be accepted after 1.6 is released so that they can also get used to this new patch :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Blackbishop on January 16, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
That's what we'll do ;).
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Cranialwizard on January 16, 2012, 10:52:23 PM
If thats the case then maybe new balancers should be accepted after 1.6 is released so that they can also get used to this new patch :P

That's what I meant by "For 1.7"
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: neosdark on January 17, 2012, 05:17:41 AM
1.7 that's going to be the RMC super patch, no? Not really much left to fix if 1.6 is indeed perfection, cause after that the Ostheer alpha starts.

Wish I can sign up for that, but I'm not available for this job until late February or so, nor do I have the experience
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 17, 2012, 05:30:50 AM
Something like that yeah :P
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 17, 2012, 06:11:33 AM
Wish I can sign up for that, but I'm not available for this job until late February or so, nor do I have the experience

I think everyone will be busy then. And don't donors get to try it early or something ???
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 17, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
Yes, I was told that any donation over $15 dollars got access to Ostheer beta.
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Killar on January 17, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
Indeed, but first of all Ostheer beta has to be finished
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 17, 2012, 06:05:30 PM
Wish I can sign up for that, but I'm not available for this job until late February or so, nor do I have the experience

I think everyone will be busy then. And don't donors get to try it early or something ???

you mean the right thing^^
donators gets access to the ostheer beta (but this is not like a open beta)
the closed beta is there to find the last bugs
its not for balancing

atm ostheer ist still prealpha (version for devs)
version aplpha - beta (this version is for balancers to make it balanced :D)
beta - final (this is the donators version to find the last bugs and prepare for the release)
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Pac-Fish on January 18, 2012, 02:20:23 AM
Let me know when its closed beta ;D
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: HerrVoss on January 18, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
I'll send you a pm ;)
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on January 26, 2012, 03:02:19 PM
the donators beta is still far away :(
Title: Re: New Balancers wanted!
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on January 28, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
the donators beta is still far away :(

I would rather say: is getting closer.