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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: vikingsteve on February 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM

Title: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: vikingsteve on February 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM: It was awesome. Now I only get Stahfynie squads... I loved using Red Tide to rush and then replenish. I could always count on a potential comeback with that ability. Why was it nerfed anyway? Were people abusing it?
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Pac-Fish on February 08, 2012, 08:28:11 AM: Quote from: vikingsteve on February 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM
It was awesome. Now I only get Stahfynie squads... I loved using Red Tide to rush and then replenish. I could always count on a potential comeback with that ability. Why was it nerfed anyway? Were people abusing it?

I think the balance team sort of saw it as a "useless" ability due to the fact you simply rushed the enemy and got new squads. You lost vet and chances are you dont actually accomplish anything :P. In any "higher lvl" game I doubt that your opponent would simply rush everything at you in hopes that all of his squads would die :P.

I have a question. WHy does the Red Tide abilty cost 200 muni? Shouldn't it cost MP? Who has 200 muni to spend when you're propaganda doctrine? :P
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on February 08, 2012, 09:32:59 AM: It's like you pay ammo and you get manpower like the ability in blitzkrieg doc.
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: cephalos on February 08, 2012, 09:47:51 AM: Quote from: Walki on February 08, 2012, 09:32:59 AM
It's like you pay ammo and you get manpower like the ability in blitzkrieg doc.

pretty much indeed. If you have lots of munitions and are in desperate need of manpower you can just call extra squads to hold the line. Very useful.

Quote from: vikingsteve on February 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM
It was awesome. Now I only get Stahfynie squads... I loved using Red Tide to rush and then replenish. I could always count on a potential comeback with that ability. Why was it nerfed anyway? Were people abusing it?

The ability was too overpowered, when hundreds of infantrymen were dying and getting replenished for free. Even US Alied Warmachine from armoured company gives you up to 2 tanks.
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Walentin 'Walki' L. on February 08, 2012, 09:57:17 AM: Quote from: cephalos on February 08, 2012, 09:47:51 AM
The ability was too overpowered, when hundreds of infantrymen were dying and getting replenished for free. Even US Alied Warmachine from armoured company gives you up to 2 tanks.

No the ability was senseless.
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Killar on February 08, 2012, 10:48:25 AM: Quote from: vikingsteve on February 08, 2012, 08:12:42 AM
I could always count on a potential comeback with that ability. Why was it nerfed anyway? Were people abusing it?

In a game against human players you lost if you sacrifice your vetted troops. No good player will do that.

Maybe you don´t know that there is a retreat button? It is the exclamation point in the userbar of the unit or the hotkey "T" :)

Other than that i think we can close this topic
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Tankbuster on February 08, 2012, 01:00:55 PM: Anytime now, although it is sad that Stahfynie troops cannot use firebombs.
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Cranialwizard on February 08, 2012, 01:09:28 PM: Red tide was a useless function. Not only would you lose troops but their hard earned vet and upgrades. You don't get those back with a mass sacrifice.

End of Discussion.
Title: Re: I miss Red Tide's old function.
Post by: Alexander 'ApeMen' J. on February 08, 2012, 01:38:04 PM: i think there is nothing more to say^^
it was a useless ability and the current one will stay