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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Strategy and Tactics => Topic started by: Otto Halfhand on April 19, 2012, 04:46:07 AM

Title: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 19, 2012, 04:46:07 AM
I saw it recently mentioned that IronCross squads manning a HMG were most potent when Support vet three was purchased. I have noted that captured crew weapons retain the identity of the capturing squad. Do these crews use their stats to operate the weapon? If I man a ZIS2 with THs what kind of vet do I get?
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Trooper425 on April 19, 2012, 05:19:32 AM
Thread bump, do weapons recrewed by grenadiers function better than ones recrewed by volks? etc.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Blackbishop on April 19, 2012, 05:40:26 AM
It doesn't work like that, the only thing they retain is the original weapon, the HP per entity and the unit type(critical/armour). Veterancy is not the same than the squad that crews it, that's already predefined ;).
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 19, 2012, 05:51:31 AM
Thread bump, do weapons recrewed by grenadiers function better than ones recrewed by volks? etc.

No
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 19, 2012, 03:05:44 PM
It doesn't work like that, the only thing they retain is the original weapon, the HP per entity and the unit type(critical/armour). Veterancy is not the same than the squad that crews it, that's already predefined ;) .
Weapons have a health associated with them. Is the crew health specific to the weapon type or just a generic value/crew member for any crewed weapon?

EDIT: So I want to recrew with Stormovie rather than ings or strelky. What is the basis for reinforce cost?
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 19, 2012, 05:06:42 PM
well i would say, if you can, reinforce with the strelky. unless they have changed without my notice, last time i checked sturmovie have a crazy reinforce cost.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 19, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
I standardly man crew weapons with strelky. More so to preserve the orignal squad. 1 m Ing Squads have the unsettling habit of dieing before they return to base. I will check the reinforce cost for Stormovie but I think it is much lower than v1.5. maybe too low. The reason I like to use Stormovie crews is their better armor class.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 19, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
true. although iirc they still have low health.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 20, 2012, 01:19:25 AM
Sturmovie is 18MP per man. IDK what crazy price you are referring to.

Basically when a crew remans a weapon, they retain their health and armor. Vet doesn't change that. Th crew manning the weapon doesn't change the weapon vet either. Basically, they're independent.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: stealthattack1 on April 20, 2012, 02:31:10 AM
my bad. it would seem last time i checked was patch 1.50, lol, i was still thinking they had muni reinforce cost XD
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 20, 2012, 02:49:03 AM
Basically when a crew remans a weapon, they retain their health and armor. Vet doesn't change that. Th crew manning the weapon doesn't change the weapon vet either. Basically, they're independent.
Do they still receive the CS vet bonus?
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 20, 2012, 02:50:38 AM
AFAIK yes. They still count as a SU unit.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on April 20, 2012, 03:03:58 AM
Good. I've been under the impression that vehicles and crewed weapons didn't benefit from the CS bonus.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 20, 2012, 03:07:38 AM
I think as long as its infantry, it benefits from CS vet.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Cranialwizard on April 20, 2012, 03:54:09 AM
Vehicles do not benefit from CS Vet.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Tankbuster on April 20, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
When you say vehicles, you mean tanks and stuff like that right? Not AT guns mortars etc?
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Pac-Fish on April 20, 2012, 10:10:13 AM
Mortars are infantry. AT guns are vehicles
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: krupp steel on October 02, 2012, 12:45:19 AM
Wait, so if I have vet 2 support vet upgrade as the Wehrmacht and I use a Knights Cross to man MG does their armor get replaced with elite.  Also what happens to sturmmovie ingenery's armor when it. Reaches the vet that changes armor to airborne.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Otto Halfhand on October 02, 2012, 02:36:55 AM
AFAIK all crewed weapons obtain the vet of the squad type that created them. non-Wehr start at scratch vet and Wehr gets class vet that has been researched.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Dann88 on October 02, 2012, 02:53:58 AM
And the starting armor remained unchanged, just add more from Otto's post.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Blackbishop on October 02, 2012, 06:04:26 PM
No, each recrew squad has specific vet, so you can say they have their own vet. Of course, this vet is standard and all the weapon crews(either original or replacements) share it. The armour of the guys who capture the weapon is kept as said by @Dann88.
Title: Re: Vetted Squads manning Crew weapons
Post by: Dann88 on October 02, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
That's pretty confusing but I understand at last... :P