Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Bugs & Tech Support => Topic started by: ChaplinAshford on November 21, 2012, 06:22:53 AM
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My friend and I are having problems when trying to play a skirmish on the current patch. after loading the game it will end it and have something saying a data sync error or something like that. Sorry for being blunt, but if you can help that would be great(°ロ°)☝
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Me and many others have exactly the same bug.
It's a synch error which happens at game start, or later in the game. But in 99% of the cases it crashed the game real early.
We noticed we could play solo vs AI
or player vs player
but not squirmish comp stomp player+player vs AI + AI...
... or is that as designed? Lol :)
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This was a change made by the balance team to stop people playing vs CPU and playing vs people from now on.
Actually, it's a bug that's being worked on. A hotfix will come quickly to fix these issues.
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Haha, nice idea ;D
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Yeah, no more comp stomps. Me and my stream need fresh blood. Come my children, come to papa! :D
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finaly we found a way to stop the compstomp :P
na we are working on the fix dont worry
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Well, give people what they want :)
They want comp stomps, give them comp stomps.
If you stop 'em from doing it, they'll either go Solo vs CPU, or they'll play regular COH, Blitzkrieg, or simply quit EF :)
... And wait for COH2 ;)
So... ;)
Did play 2vs2 players yesterday. It was brutal and bloody. Interesting, but...
I like my comp stomps :) Now, fix it please :D
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What is wrong with playing against bots? My friends and I just play this game casually and like to mess around against bots and pull silly army comps and strats. We don't like the pressure of playing against other people because we know we aren't that great at the game. We would rather laugh and joke around for 3 hours against bots who throw themselves at our impenetrable defense we spent a long time building and perfecting than play for rank against other people.
I know that this is getting hotfixed, and it sounds like the devs are joking about the purposeful implement of a way to get rid of "compstomps", but honestly the way y'all talk about it it sounds like it is some kind of taboo to even play with friends against AI. Though it is probably the purist in the competitive players showing.
Anyways, I've been a player and big fan of this mod for a good while now and I just hope that we can keep both the casual and competitive players in mind. This is a really great mod and it deserves all the rep it is getting and all the money it will never see from Russians selling pirated versions of this mod too. Looking forward to the hotfix so my friends and I can go back to throwing conscripts at MG42s.
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the problem is that many players (i dont say all) just play vs comp because they dont want to wait ages for a game
but when all these comp players would just play against other players nobody would need to wait that long
there are imo mostly enough games open, the problem is just that they play against comps
for me games against comp are pretty boring but this dosnt mean that you are forced to play against players :P
but it would be very very nice if some ppl could jump over their shadow and just play from time to time some lobby games
1v1 or 2v2 are always well seen. this also helps to improve the fame of ef so more ppl may joind our community
also one of our balancers (riggsman) ist pretty often broadcasting so other players which see this cast may think hey it looks nice and funny. i will test it myself!
he he has maybe other friends which would also test it with him.
the more ppl plays in pvp the more ppl will join the community
and from this fact all of us benefit :D
and if you are worried about too loose or get raped in just a few min just ask for better and balanced teams
im 100% sure that most of these player are fine to mix the teams to make it more balanced and this also imfroves the fun in the game.
if you play some 1v1 against a better player, dont get frustrated. the most of them are pretty nice guys. ask for tips or ask them to help to train you a bit.
there are enough player who dont care about stats or ranks.
realy i dont want to blame anyone for compstomping, but i would be happy if you all would think about this.
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I have to admit that I only play against human and compstomp on 1v1 in this patch so never know this sync error thing.
Not sure if I'm lucky or I'm getting lonely... :(
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I do play 1v1 from time to time when my friends aren't on, but most of my time on CoH even without the EF mod was playing with my friends against the bots. I play StarCraft II a lot but my friends only like the custom games where I like normal games. I don't mind playing against people but my friends really don't like it, and when a game that should be open to both casual and competitive players is suddenly not catering to one or the other it really hurts the outlook of players.
I understand that the devs may be doing this because they want more stats for their balancing or because there may be a long queue before another PvP game is played, but denying something to other players doesn't seem very fair. I think that having a happy community is more important then trying to balance the game quicker. Balance issues will always come up, and hell if there is even a team dedicated to playing just for finding balance issues sign me up cause I'd love to help, but taking away something for the sake of balancing a mod from players who just want to play for the sake of playing because they enjoy the game seems like a step away from an inviting community. Unless the devs are whole heartily gunning for a competitive only game and could care less about the number playing the mod for fun then it is their decision. But I feel that with CoH2 coming (a whole year from now) which is pretty much what this mod is, just letting players play the game seems like more then enough, specially with all the devs are doing to expand on their already amazing mod.
Anyways, I want to apologize for being a little off topic and/or I'm sounding rude, its not my intention.
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You totally missed the joke.
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Well Rizz published the new changelog today so patch could arrive any day now...
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There is already a another full 1.7.0.1 patch on moddb.
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indeed the new fix patch is ready :D
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Well, give people what they want :)
They want comp stomps, give them comp stomps.
If you stop 'em from doing it, they'll either go Solo vs CPU, or they'll play regular COH, Blitzkrieg, or simply quit EF :)
What is wrong with playing against bots?...
I know that this is getting hotfixed, and it sounds like the devs are joking about the purposeful implement of a way to get rid of "compstomps", but honestly the way y'all talk about it it sounds like it is some kind of taboo to even play with friends against AI. Though it is probably the purist in the competitive players showing.
Anyways, I've been a player and big fan of this mod for a good while now and I just hope that we can keep both the casual and competitive players in mind. This is a really great mod and it deserves all the rep it is getting and all the money it will never see from Russians selling pirated versions of this mod too. Looking forward to the hotfix so my friends and I can go back to throwing conscripts at MG42s.
I have contributed time and money to this Mod for some time now. The bad taste jokes of A Developer and two Balancers is extremely objectionable to me. Unfortunately it is underlied by a failure of the jokers to appreciate the exclusionary nature of their comments. It goes against the basic values that have made this Mod popular and exciting. I believe as Devs and Balancers you have an obligation to promote not tear down the project.
@ William: How does someone go about getting a refund on donations?
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There is no bad word written in this topic about the players who plays vs AI only. We made a joke which indicates that we want more live players rather than AI challengers and the taste of this joke good or bad depends on the person. You took it in a bad way but if you check another post of mine which was completely intended in a positive and encouraging way, as same as Ape's post.
We just want fresh faces in the live games cause we're bored of each other and we have right to demand this as same as you demand your own preference.
Anyway, No need to panic, sync error was just a patch issue and it's fixed now. Enjoy the game how you like it, it's none of ours business of course.
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Otto, what Ape wrote was a joke, granted, a rather simple and bad joke. However I am completely unable to understand your utterly exaggerated reaction now. If there's some private problems in between you and some devs, please solve them where they come from, in privacy.
Peace, now!
Enjoy the game how you like it, it's none of ours business of course.
QFT.
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In my first post I recognized that the devs were making a joke. However if a problem that denied a group of players came up, you would think the devs would try to reassure the players who would like to play again that the problem is being fix rather than post things like:
Yeah, no more comp stomps. Me and my stream need fresh blood. Come my children, come to papa! :D
As someone who takes the time to read the posts and reply compared to someone who just skims through the threads to see if the problem is being taken care of, that person isn't going to find these posts very reassuring and feel like they are being cut out and looked down upon because they would rather play with friends then against them.
The problem I saw was a lack of sensitivity for the lurkers who are just trying to figure out their problem, and that there was never an answer that didn't have a, "to stop people from playing vs. cpu" attached to it until the fix was announced. A simple, "It was a mistake that being looked into, we will notify you when a fix is released." would have worked.
Anyways, I am very thankful for the hotfix, and again, I don't blame the devs and balancers who were just trying to have a little fun. This'll be my last two cents on this topic so if anyone wants to bring something up with me please PM me.
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@theLoliBrigade
Don't worry comrade, we expect you keep coming and posting feedback soon :).
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This was a change made by the balance team to stop people playing vs CPU and playing vs people from now on.
Actually, it's a bug that's being worked on. A hotfix will come quickly to fix these issues.
3rd post - the situation was laid out and I said a fix is coming.
Overreaction much? Grow thicker skin. If devs truly wanted to remove compstomps from the game they could quite easily do so. Nobody has anything against compstompers but skirmish players do not grow the community from the simple nature of the gametype they play. Skirmishers do not require a human opponent and so the lobby feels empty for those that play PvP because Skirmish players can fire up a game and play anytime while some of us must wait. Also, a skirmish only player can't contribute to the balance discussions of the forum as much, and this area is also a little empty as a result.
Nobody has said that skirmishers SHOULD stop playing vs CPU but those that only do so because they are afraid to do a 1v1 have no reason to fear. This community is very open and helpful and those that need advice or training can be helped a lot more than those playing 1v1 automatch in vCoH and getting stomped. Fish, Dann, Dreamer etc. are all players that have grown substantially better after some help, and new players can also get a lot of help. If a player feels he's limited to skirmish because he's not good enough, he has the opportunity for people to help him if he wants to play PvP truly. Those that only want to play skirmish are still free to do so, though personally I get no satisfaction from that gamemode.
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Closed a couple of 1.7.0.0 Threads. Please open new threads for issues relating to 1.7.0.1.