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Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => General Discussion => Topic started by: ford_prefect on November 01, 2009, 08:30:33 PM

Title: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 01, 2009, 08:30:33 PM
Every German nation in this game gets a 88 (if you get the right tech) I would like to see the ostheer have a mobile 88 though (not a tiger) but like what Rommel did. It should take them a long time to set up and go somewhere else but in case of emergency they can leave
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 01, 2009, 09:14:09 PM
This would be nice, seeing as current 88's get the crap beaten out of them by arty. I think the 88 should be able to switch from AT to artillery as well, seeing as that is how they were used in the real war
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 01, 2009, 09:54:33 PM
This would be nice, seeing as current 88's get the crap beaten out of them by arty. I think the 88 should be able to switch from AT to artillery as well, seeing as that is how they were used in the real war
yeah and pluss that they get destroyed by arty
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Aouch on November 04, 2009, 06:12:08 PM
How should a mobile FlaK 36 work?

It was much too heavy to be pulled around by its crew, furthermore making it "attachable" too vehicles like HTs would be an unfair advantage over the "old" factions, since they can't carry their heavy guns with vehicles.

In contrary I'm all for leaving the 88 completly out of the weaponry of the Ostheer.  :P
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 05, 2009, 12:08:57 AM
How should a mobile FlaK 36 work?

It was much too heavy to be pulled around by its crew, furthermore making it "attachable" too vehicles like HTs would be an unfair advantage over the "old" factions, since they can't carry their heavy guns with vehicles.

In contrary I'm all for leaving the 88 completly out of the weaponry of the Ostheer.  :P
I am sure there are things that can be done to even it out. Also putting a timer onto it so you can only shoot it once in a while would be something to even it out (p.S. It would kind of be like a nebelwarfer, besides that you would need to make a skin for a vehicle to go with it.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Der Deutsche on November 05, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
the 88 was the in the early years one of just a few weapons that could beat the russian t 34/76- never ever leave it out for the ostheer
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Marcus on November 05, 2009, 01:43:50 PM
imagine some 88s built in your base that slowly are moved near the opponent base until they shoot and destroy it while they are covered by other troops... instant & easy win? not a bad idea but, is it really possible to implement it in the game without break the balance? ???
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 05, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
imagine some 88s built in your base that slowly are moved near the opponent base until they shoot and destroy it while they are covered by other troops... instant & easy win? not a bad idea but, is it really possible to implement it in the game without break the balance? ???
Yes because a RELY RELY slow anti tank gun will definitely make it from one side of a 4v4 map to the other side without a single dint in it yeah???? I mean it won't come out in the beginning stages do you think I am crazy???? "LOL yeah lets let the Ostheer have a 88 in its hq so they can just build one of those right off and send it to the enemy base  :P"  There are PLENTY of things that can balance that out. (sending two or three conscripts and flanking it on every side would do it)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: FriendlyFire on November 05, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9585/mobile88.jpg)

Well, here's my answer to your moble 88 situation  ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Marcus on November 05, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
imagine some 88s built in your base that slowly are moved near the opponent base until they shoot and destroy it while they are covered by other troops... instant & easy win? not a bad idea but, is it really possible to implement it in the game without break the balance? ???
Yes because a RELY RELY slow anti tank gun will definitely make it from one side of a 4v4 map to the other side without a single dint in it yeah???? I mean it won't come out in the beginning stages do you think I am crazy???? "LOL yeah lets let the Ostheer have a 88 in its hq so they can just build one of those right off and send it to the enemy base  :P"  There are PLENTY of things that can balance that out. (sending two or three conscripts and flanking it on every side would do it)

who talked of 4vs4?of course there's no problem with 4vs4 games, but usually the most played games on coh are 1vs1 :) would it be fair in a 1vs1?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on November 05, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
How should a mobile FlaK 36 work?

It was much too heavy to be pulled around by its crew, furthermore making it "attachable" too vehicles like HTs would be an unfair advantage over the "old" factions, since they can't carry their heavy guns with vehicles.

In contrary I'm all for leaving the 88 completly out of the weaponry of the Ostheer.  :P

Hey: Pak 43/41 Scheunentor was pulled by soldiers ;) But you ned 12 or more of them to move the Scheunentor 88.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 05, 2009, 11:27:04 PM
How should a mobile FlaK 36 work?

It was much too heavy to be pulled around by its crew, furthermore making it "attachable" too vehicles like HTs would be an unfair advantage over the "old" factions, since they can't carry their heavy guns with vehicles.

In contrary I'm all for leaving the 88 completly out of the weaponry of the Ostheer.  :P

Hey: Pak 43/41 Scheunentor was pulled by soldiers ;) But you ned 12 or more of them to move the Scheunentor 88.
they could simplify it by making a model for a opel truck. Kind of like the horses in Empire total war. Once they unpack they just hang around not doing any thing. When it needs to move they just hook it up
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 05, 2009, 11:59:34 PM
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9585/mobile88.jpg)

Well, here's my answer to your moble 88 situation  ;)

This could work with a high set up/pack up time. As long as it was at the end of a tech tree and was 3-4 Command Points
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 06, 2009, 12:05:13 AM
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9585/mobile88.jpg)

Well, here's my answer to your moble 88 situation  ;)

This could work with a high set up/pack up time. As long as it was at the end of a tech tree and was 3-4 Command Points
yes at the very end of a tech tree so maybe you wont even get it if you choose a different tech tree
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on November 06, 2009, 12:26:08 AM
I mean that this 3 88 vehicles were not used at the eastern front. I think that this vehicles were improvisation by the western frontline troups ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 06, 2009, 02:10:22 AM
I mean that this 3 88 vehicles were not used at the eastern front. I think that this vehicles were improvisation by the western frontline troups ;)
do we know this as a fact for sure? (just asking)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Ju-87 on November 06, 2009, 04:14:59 AM
These vehicles were used in the Polish and French champagnes as mobile anti aircraft but later as anti tank weapons. It was a Flak 88 mounted on a Daimler-Benz 18-ton semi-tracked carriers.In 1940 15 were built and there were plans for 112 more in 1941-2 but they were canceled because they realized a full-tracked, fully armored vehicle was a better idea. But it still would be a nice addition to the mod.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 06, 2009, 02:37:27 PM
These vehicles were used in the Polish and French champagnes as mobile anti aircraft but later as anti tank weapons. It was a Flak 88 mounted on a Daimler-Benz 18-ton semi-tracked carriers.In 1940 15 were built and there were plans for 112 more in 1941-2 but they were canceled because they realized a full-tracked, fully armored vehicle was a better idea. But it still would be a nice addition to the mod.
No offense but........................I don't think that the Germans had many of those in the invasion of Poland
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: 5hiftyl1v3z on November 06, 2009, 03:04:17 PM
Quote
In 1940 15 were built and there were plans for 112 more

He didnt say that many were built, only 15. I could easily imagine that 15 could be slapped together by guys on the front line as opposed to built in factorys.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Aouch on November 06, 2009, 03:42:38 PM
Why make a 88 attached to SdKfz.?
There is already a mobile 88, the Tiger I. Also, there could be the Nashorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashorn), though I don't like that idea at all.

The idea with the horses or tractive unit don't really fit into CoH.
Just a few arguments against:
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Ju-87 on November 06, 2009, 05:04:21 PM
It was more then less used as a mobile anti aircraft weapon to protect the tank columns. And I would think that the 15 that were built were being used as a trail to see how they would perform.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 06, 2009, 11:37:33 PM
It was more then less used as a mobile anti aircraft weapon to protect the tank columns. And I would think that the 15 that were built were being used as a trail to see how they would perform.
are you suggesting.........a train car with a 88 on it? You are my best friend on this mod right now ;D
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on November 06, 2009, 11:56:27 PM
These vehicles were used in the Polish and French champagnes as mobile anti aircraft but later as anti tank weapons. It was a Flak 88 mounted on a Daimler-Benz 18-ton semi-tracked carriers.In 1940 15 were built and there were plans for 112 more in 1941-2 but they were canceled because they realized a full-tracked, fully armored vehicle was a better idea. But it still would be a nice addition to the mod.

1940: 30 SdKfz. 8 were equiped with Flak 18 8,8cm for 3 anti-tank-units.
1942: 15 SdKfz. 9 were qquiped with Flak 36 8,8cm for some anti-tank units at the western front.
But no of this half-tracks were used at the eastern front ;)
( source: lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de )
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Ju-87 on November 07, 2009, 12:44:58 AM
Just to say, in the Game Blitzkrieg 2 in the champaign they had armored train cars withe Panzer 4 tank turrets mounted on them.
[img]www.modelrailforum.com/.../scout1b.jpg/img]
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 07, 2009, 12:54:29 AM
Just to say, in the Game Blitzkrieg 2 in the champaign they had armored train cars withe Panzer 4 tank turrets mounted on them.
there is also the bunkers on I think the map "semois" that's probably not it but I know a map where there is a panzer four bunker 
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: userstupidname on November 07, 2009, 02:03:46 PM
Just do it as they do in the eir and omg mod where you can just call in a truck that moves the 88. The truck can then move around and build it where you want.


But of course the truck has low low health and its a pretty long setup time (but still shorter then building it)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Ju-87 on November 07, 2009, 03:41:35 PM
That would be good, after setting up the 88 you can use the truck for troop transport and as a munitions vehicle.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 07, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
88mm flak 18 (sfl) on zugkraftwagen 12to (sdkfz 8 ) build in 1938 and 1939 10 -12 vehicles... tragets: bunkers
these vehicles are called bunkerflak... used first in czechoslovakia, poland and france to kill bunkers and artillery observation bunkers later for antitank... fired in driving direction + 5° on both sides...
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 07, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
Just do it as they do in the eir and omg mod where you can just call in a truck that moves the 88. The truck can then move around and build it where you want.


But of course the truck has low low health and its a pretty long setup time (but still shorter then building it)
I like it to
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Ju-87 on November 07, 2009, 10:04:35 PM
The info I put in about the 88mm on a half track came from a book I have, It was under anti amour and the book said it was a Flak 18.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 08, 2009, 01:58:55 AM
The info I put in about the 88mm on a half track came from a book I have, It was under anti amour and the book said it was a Flak 18.
Well it would be cool to have one. And I don't think the devs  have started to make the ostheer ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 08, 2009, 05:24:01 AM
The idea with the horses or tractive unit don't really fit into CoH.
Just a few arguments against:

•What happens when the vehicle gets destroyed or the horses get killed?
 : They vanish into pixel dust? :)

•It's very unlikely the DEVs are able to do an animation for that. I don't want to doubt the leetness of the DEV-crew, but I think it's rather difficult if not impossible to create such an anim.
 : Make them with no animation :) Just wooden static
 horses in front of the carriage :) Then find a way to work
 on it. Could be awesome side-project. Then work on dogs
 Awesome vs Snipers or Soviet anti-tank dog packs!
 : Impossible? They said animating T34 was impossible!

•It just doesn't fit into EF, because EF wants to be an inofficial expansion. Therefore, it would be a bit odd when only the Ostheer has a basic ability like towing their guns to vehicles.
 : Only soviets have 0 pop infantry.
 : Only british have AMERICAN 105mm Priest
 (Which fucked up their ammo procurement)
 : Only germans have UNIQUE LIFE units (KT/JP)
 : Only british have captains (Now that'S weird)
 : Only american have paratroopers :)
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans hav

Post Merge: November 08, 2009, 05:27:23 AM

 : Only american have paratroopers :)
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans have callioppe (It's a T34 Soviet weapon)
 (Before you say Katyusha, its a T34 system!!!)

 ... Why can't soviets use that?
 Or have flamethrower KV8, T34O, etc?

 : Why do soviets have KV2 when it was completely
 phased out by 1944? :)
(Gimme KV85!!)
(I know, no point because of SU85, T34/85, IS2/122
 and conscripts :)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 08, 2009, 06:41:45 AM
The idea with the horses or tractive unit don't really fit into CoH.
Just a few arguments against:

•What happens when the vehicle gets destroyed or the horses get killed?
 : They vanish into pixel dust? :)

•It's very unlikely the DEVs are able to do an animation for that. I don't want to doubt the leetness of the DEV-crew, but I think it's rather difficult if not impossible to create such an anim.
 : Make them with no animation :) Just wooden static
 horses in front of the carriage :) Then find a way to work
 on it. Could be awesome side-project. Then work on dogs
 Awesome vs Snipers or Soviet anti-tank dog packs!
 : Impossible? They said animating T34 was impossible!

•It just doesn't fit into EF, because EF wants to be an inofficial expansion. Therefore, it would be a bit odd when only the Ostheer has a basic ability like towing their guns to vehicles.
 : Only soviets have 0 pop infantry.
 : Only british have AMERICAN 105mm Priest
 (Which fucked up their ammo procurement)
 : Only germans have UNIQUE LIFE units (KT/JP)
 : Only british have captains (Now that'S weird)
 : Only american have paratroopers :)
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans hav

Post Merge: November 08, 2009, 05:27:23 AM

 : Only american have paratroopers :)
 (Germans pop out of buildings and british come from
 gliders. I meant actual parachutes) Isn't that odd?
 : Only americans have callioppe (It's a T34 Soviet weapon)
 (Before you say Katyusha, its a T34 system!!!)

 ... Why can't soviets use that?
 Or have flamethrower KV8, T34O, etc?

 : Why do soviets have KV2 when it was completely
 phased out by 1944? :)
(Gimme KV85!!)
(I know, no point because of SU85, T34/85, IS2/122
 and conscripts :)
good god.......................I last checked 3 hours ago and you have gone on every recent post and threw a wall at every recent post.
I could counter HALF of these arguments but............I have other things to do and I'd get done in about 2 hours XD
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 08, 2009, 07:02:16 AM

 They were part humor, part challenging the person.
 Throw in some ideas, not just be a nay-sayer.
 You say you could counter half my arguments? Then do so!
 :) I dare ya!

 : Dead horses. Plenty of dead cow/horses on some maps.
 : Pixel dust works too. Dead soldiers vanish after awhile.
 : Impossible to model... false. Proven so. Just hasn't been
 done - yet!
 : Saying not to do something with one army because no
 other armies can't do it... is... ... hmm, yknow, The british
 are the only ones who use mobile buildings/trucks...

  What's wrong with giving OstHeer an ability no one else
 has, as LONG as it is balanced with other factors, and fits
 within an overall theme other than 'Be OP, do everything,
 with no flaws whatsoever'... nej?

Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 08, 2009, 05:39:49 PM

 - Well, every faction/doctrine needs something OP to
 give them flavor. I'd LOVE for americans to have mobile,
 yet slow 105mm Howis. At worse, I wish I could abandon
 them. Not have to artillery my own units to get pop back:p
 
 But that's not going to happen anytime soon.
 I've played codename panzers (mobile artillery)(Not the SPG)
 the actual artilleries. 88 too. Same with Men of War.
 Mobile artillery. I like that we can move AT57/PAK37 a lot.

 88 is big, yes. But it moves in those. Just throw in some
 maluses to make it balanced?
 
 *
 Oh god, no. I don't want ISU152 and IS2 to be overpowered.
 I just don't want the IS2 to be a panther, and the ISU152
 to be a Jagpanther?

 I'd just want the IS2 to be a Pershing. With bad optics
 (T34/76 flavor) and slow-ass reloading (As per history).
 (Strong but slow) rather than copying the panther?
 Maybe accuracy too.

 The ISU152... is a lot more than a Jagpanther.
 Play Man of War, etc, you'll see what I mean.
 Poor optics, awesome armor, godly strike, shit poor reloading.
 The 1940 version of T34 has poor reloading too, but that
 was fixed in the subsequent versions (I heard they changed
 the turret to the 1943 version, I believe?)

 I was thinking longer-ranged AVRE with AP thrown into
 it's HE. And similar to IS maluses (The reloading speed and
 far from pin-point accuracy. StuH is a good example here.

 I don't want overpowered, not at all.
 On the contrary, I'm afraid IS2 will be overpowered, myself.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 08, 2009, 06:41:12 PM
Our IS-2 is not a 'copied' Panther.

And also, Loupblanc, please stop posting in columns. Fill in the whole box like everybody else does, or I will start deleting your posts.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 08, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Our IS-2 is not a 'copied' Panther.

And also, Loupblanc, please stop posting in columns. Fill in the whole box like everybody else does, or I will start deleting your posts.
lol!
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Michael Wittman on November 08, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
if the horse die, can be take by medics (Medic Bunker)¿?

so in the future the horse will be a Granadier.

That Would Be Awesome!  ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: BurroDiablo on November 08, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
We could make a Butchers bunker... he runs out with a 12 gauge and puts the horse out of its misery... then your men fight better due to increased meat rations.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 08, 2009, 10:59:11 PM
nom nom nom
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 08, 2009, 11:17:21 PM
nom nom nom
lol
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 08, 2009, 11:24:09 PM
We could make a Butchers bunker... he runs out with a 12 gauge and puts the horse out of its misery... then your men fight better due to increased meat rations.

Best idea ever
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 09, 2009, 12:02:38 AM
 Hmm, you guys are crazy :)
 But, look at things positively. It would certainly bring
 something new to the game, wouldn't it?

 When can the DEVs start working on this?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 09, 2009, 12:17:52 AM
Hmm, you guys are crazy :)
 But, look at things positively. It would certainly bring
 something new to the game, wouldn't it?

 When can the DEVs start working on this?
its called sarcasim
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 09, 2009, 01:25:11 AM

 : I was being sarcastic myself  ;)
 : Hmm, as for my long posts. You post 3x 4x more than I do,
 and there is at least a reply from you in EVERY thread there
 is. So, please...
 : Your quoting my long ass posts while only adding a line
 of your own constitutes spam more than my own posts,
 as it also brings nothing constructive :p
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 09, 2009, 03:29:39 AM

 : I was being sarcastic myself  ;)
 : Hmm, as for my long posts. You post 3x 4x more than I do,
 and there is at least a reply from you in EVERY thread there
 is. So, please...
 : Your quoting my long ass posts while only adding a line
 of your own constitutes spam more than my own posts,
 as it also brings nothing constructive :p
ah now here is somthing funny!!!! You stated almost the same exact thing on another posts. I think he is just trying to rack up posts ;D
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 09, 2009, 06:25:34 AM

 Not at all. Just being a wee bit outspoken whereas
 before, I said nothing at all. Although we DID speak
 some on Modb. I'm Felinewolfie ;)

 As for saying the same thing elsewhere, well, at
 least Iam consistant. My belief system is stable :)
 I care nothing for post points. Just want to blow
 up Germans using soviet tanks :)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 10, 2009, 08:56:53 PM
Loupblanc, did you learn to speak English in Scotland?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 10, 2009, 11:01:01 PM
his posts sux... think hes only a post collector... writes on every fuckin thread...  >:(
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 11, 2009, 12:12:13 AM
Loupblanc, did you learn to speak English in Scotland?
I know this is off topic but the posts is ruind any way.
they do speak English in Scotland (strongest acents ever!!!!!!) I could not under stand my Grandpa's friend. LOL this guy was a farmer up North man could not under stand a word he said.
and also his account says he is in Canada and he posts in the French colum so I guess Toronto yeah?
And don't some scots speak Scottish Gaelic?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: SpezialForce on November 11, 2009, 10:53:50 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/8,8-cm-Flugabwehrkanone_37.8.8_cm_anti-aircraft_cannon_37.JPG)
There were buggy-styled 88s in the eastern front, if they werent at the eastern front how could this one be displayed in Finland. These ones could probably be pushed by its crew (Make like 6-8 men in a crew)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: MrScruff on November 11, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
better this:
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9585/mobile88.jpg)
better moving...  ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 11, 2009, 11:20:12 AM
some more... for mrscruff... the modell master :D

(http://home.arcor.de/sivanov/tank/rovnopanzer-dateien/bunkerflak.jpg)
(http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/37045/2000139514259021063_rs.jpg)

heres a good thread of this vehicle...

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=122195&start=15 (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=122195&start=15)


or this one:

Flakpanzer fur Schwere Flak (8.8cm Flak 37)
8.8cm Flak 37 auf Sonderfahrgestell,
88 mm K (Pz Sf) auf Sonderfahrgestell

(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/flak-panzers/flakpanzer/flakpanzer-8.8cm-flak-37-01.jpg)(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/flak-panzers/flakpanzer/flakpanzer-8.8cm-flak-37-02.jpg)

but its only a prototype  :(  3 were build
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 12, 2009, 05:05:29 AM
 - Yes, I learned english in Scotland. Aberdeen, and Glawgow.
 Dad is from Scotland. Me mum is from France. Lived just about everywhere. Equally fluent in French as in english.
Why do you ask? And I am currently in Montreal, Quebec, Canada :D

 - I like the idea of mobile artillery (Howitzers, 88's) myself.
 I'm allergic to the idea of needing to bomb my own units
 so as to recuperate the pop so that I can shift my unit
 layout differently :p (I know, I know, say that to Relic)

  Doesn't mean Ostheer can't have mobile LeH18 and LeF18
 and 88's... of course, they'd need some pretty serious
 malluses to compensate!!! :D

 (I'm against the all-pro factions. Not balanced at all).
 
 And, noo... I have not been into the german/soviet *(russian!)* as well as most of the Ostheer threads :)
 Why?

 *Must bring hungarians and finnish as call-ins for Ostheer!*

Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 12, 2009, 05:54:14 PM
Ah, I assumed as much. Just wondering, you have a Scottish way with words.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 12, 2009, 08:24:06 PM

 AE scOTTish wae wie words, yea sae? Noop, ae dinnae
 know thae :)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: luz777 on November 12, 2009, 10:36:57 PM
Haggis...
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 12, 2009, 11:02:17 PM
Haggis McMutton, best barber pirate to sail the Caribbean   :P
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Michael Wittman on November 12, 2009, 11:43:50 PM
ohhhh that dog of mine!...

oh wait, thats redneck.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 13, 2009, 02:13:46 AM
Ah, I assumed as much. Just wondering, you have a Scottish way with words.
;D thats.............thats good!
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on November 14, 2009, 01:25:14 PM
Here is a new "mobile" 88  ;)

(http://s2.imgimg.de/uploads/t34888a5bc21ejpg.jpg)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 14, 2009, 01:49:49 PM
its a fake  ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 14, 2009, 02:03:37 PM
Haggis McMutton, best barber pirate to sail the Caribbean   :P

Good old Monkey Island.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G. on November 14, 2009, 02:10:53 PM
its a fake  ;)

I know ;) But its a funny picture xD
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: WartyX on November 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
Is it a T34?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 14, 2009, 03:30:23 PM
jep t-34 with flak36 88mm  ;D but its a fake screen... like the pzIV with tiger turret  ;D
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 14, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
Well devs are you going to put a mobile 88 in??????
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: BurroDiablo on November 14, 2009, 08:11:20 PM
Who the hell knows, we've not discussed the Ostheer yet, we're saving it until the Soviets have been released
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 16, 2009, 01:45:33 AM
Haggis McMutton, best barber pirate to sail the Caribbean   :P

Good old Monkey Island.

Congrats, you get an e-cookie (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9295/ecookie.jpg).

Btw, i support a mobile 88, and having the ability to switch between AT and artillery, though that is unlikely.

At least make it mobile
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 16, 2009, 06:00:00 AM
Who the hell knows, we've not discussed the Ostheer yet, we're saving it until the Soviets have been released
OK thanks burro I hope you guys keep your minds open ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 16, 2009, 06:07:06 AM

 You know he's lying!
 the Ostheer were developped BEFORE the soviets.
 Their starting unit is 30x JagTigers that can capture
 flags simply by entering a sector at 500% speed!

 ... Then they figured, hey, we can't release this without
 making soviets first! So, well, they all released a collective
 sigh, and went to work... :)

 Now they're balancing soviets to make sure they don't
 wipe out the OstHeer right in the beginning despite the
 30x JTigers :)

 No, wait and see that the OstHeer don't get released
 the day before the soviets ;) This is why they won't
 work on it 'before the soviets are released'... because
 they're already done! :D

 Makes complete sense :D
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gew00n on November 16, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
sign.... :-\
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 17, 2009, 12:27:13 AM
 (No, wait and see that the OstHeer don't get released
 the day before the soviets  This is why they won't
 work on it 'before the soviets are released'... because
 they're already done!)

right..........that makes sense now lets get your strap jacket on and send you back to the institution OK?
 
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 17, 2009, 08:09:30 PM

 ! wow, one of the few posts of Gew00n, I am honored :)
 As for the straightjacket, who says I ever took it off? How
 else would my initial formatting been so off?

 Hmm, by the way, that T34 with a Flak88/36 looks... er...
 woah. What do you mean it's fake? Looks genuine, though.

 utterly badass :)
 Although methinks you'd get metal warping in a hurry
 on the coupling.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Gew00n on November 17, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
I only post usefull posts  ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 18, 2009, 06:55:39 AM
 
 ;) (Shhh!)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 19, 2009, 12:46:05 AM

 ;) (Shhh!)
your posts have been getting smaller and smaller lupblanc keep it up and I will give you an E-cookie ;D
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 19, 2009, 06:59:02 AM

 ... You don't listen do you? :) I told you I had like 2 years
 of steam built up. So I just sort of blew up. Now, work,
 no updates, the mod being cancelled, and splitting migraines
 having been taking their toil :p
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: luz777 on November 19, 2009, 03:58:23 PM

 ... You don't listen do you? :) I told you I had like 2 years
 of steam built up. So I just sort of blew up. Now, work,
 no updates, the mod being cancelled, and splitting migraines
 having been taking their toil :p

Haha never make a statement like that over on the EF moddb page. All the little uns will kick off  ;D

I wonder if anyone rises to it here...
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: BurroDiablo on November 19, 2009, 05:14:11 PM
Quote
the mod being cancelled

Uh... what?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 19, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
 Luz777 : It's nice to be understood :D :D :D
 (shhh)
 
 BurroDiablo : Yea, but it's a secret, shh. Must keep
 the fans panting on, despite there never being a release,
 ever! :D

 Hint : Read it as a reverse psychology 'when is it out' ? :)
 
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 20, 2009, 12:10:01 AM
Luz777 : It's nice to be understood :D :D :D
 (shhh)
 
 BurroDiablo : Yea, but it's a secret, shh. Must keep
 the fans panting on, despite there never being a release,
 ever! :D

 Hint : Read it as a reverse psychology 'when is it out' ? :)
lol some one believed you ;D guess he just does not get your sarcasm
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 20, 2009, 09:30:21 AM

 I KNOW! I saw! I even whispered him. Ehh...
 Someone (Wartx or Burrito) said on Modb forum that, yes,
 it would be released in 2012... And another mod hurriedly
 said : Hint : He's being sarcastic, guys...

 I love deadpan humor. So devastating. Sigh :)
 ... Must... play... soviets... Lol. I play Men of War non
 stop in my free time, now. Waiting for EF/SC2 :)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: BurroDiablo on November 20, 2009, 10:13:48 AM
No, I meant 'Uh, what?' as in 'You're talking ballocks!'

I don't have a Dev tag for decoration...
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Aouch on November 22, 2009, 03:03:34 PM
Back to topic:
I now think that a mobile 88 would be a great benefit for the Ostheer. However, not on a halftrack or T34 ( ;D ) but rather "mobile" in the way it was mentioned in the first post.

Question to the DEVs: Is it possible to attach guns like the FlaK 36 to vehicles, so their able to pull them and their crew around and then to uncouple so the gun can be used in combat?
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Voop_Bakon on November 23, 2009, 04:35:53 AM
Not going to happen. Devs dont want to give Russians that ability when no other faction has anything close to it
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 23, 2009, 06:19:47 AM
(I now think that a mobile 88 would be a great benefit for the Ostheer. However, not on a halftrack or T34 ( ;D ) but rather "mobile" in the way it was mentioned in the first post.)
WOOT! People like my ideas!
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 23, 2009, 06:38:59 AM
Question to the DEVs: Is it possible to attach guns like the FlaK 36 to vehicles, so their able to pull them and their crew around and then to uncouple so the gun can be used in combat?

it is... halftrack have moddet this... but it not perfekt works...  :-\
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 24, 2009, 01:18:50 AM

 it works real nice and easy in Codename Panzer and Men of War.
 Don't see any reason it wouldn't in this one (Except that they're
 not the same game and vanilla isn't coded for it) I know, that's
 not what I'm saying, lol :)

 As for not doing it, because other factions can't do it...
 Well, no other faction but german can have Tiger. Why should
 Germans then be able to have a Tiger? ;)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Aouch on November 25, 2009, 12:31:52 AM
it works real nice and easy in Codename Panzer and Men of War.
 Don't see any reason it wouldn't in this one (Except that they're
 not the same game and vanilla isn't coded for it) I know, that's
 not what I'm saying, lol :)
Just because it works in C:P and MoW doesn't mean it works in CoH, as you already mentioned.  ;)
CoH lacks some important anims, and without them, it'll just look odd. If the DEVs can't do such animations, I think it'll be better to not add such a feature.
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 25, 2009, 03:17:01 AM

 Oh, I didn't say the contrary.
 I meant :
 - Don't add them because no anims (yet) for 'em.
 NOT because 'other factions don't have them' yknow? :)
 - T34 animations didn't work either, didn't they?:)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: ford_prefect on November 25, 2009, 06:14:11 AM
it works real nice and easy in Codename Panzer and Men of War.
 Don't see any reason it wouldn't in this one (Except that they're
 not the same game and vanilla isn't coded for it) I know, that's
 not what I'm saying, lol :)
Just because it works in C:P and MoW doesn't mean it works in CoH, as you already mentioned.  ;)
CoH lacks some important anims, and without them, it'll just look odd. If the DEVs can't do such animations, I think it'll be better to not add such a feature.
how do you know that the DEVs could not do that? Do you know if they have even tried (try actually telling the truth some times ;D)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: denki_groove on November 25, 2009, 06:38:57 AM
Question to the DEVs: Is it possible to attach guns like the FlaK 36 to vehicles, so their able to pull them and their crew around and then to uncouple so the gun can be used in combat?

it is... halftrack have moddet this... but it not perfekt works...  :-\

someone read this? it works... but not perfect this time... need more fine tuning  ::)
Title: Re: moblie 88
Post by: Loupblanc on November 25, 2009, 12:04:46 PM

 So... there is hope after all :D