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Eastern Front Mod => Suggestions => Red Army Suggestions => Topic started by: 250.Inf. Div. on February 28, 2010, 06:48:01 PM

Title: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: 250.Inf. Div. on February 28, 2010, 06:48:01 PM
I like to see this sovits tanks in combat:

su 76
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-76 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-76)   

similar marder 3.

t-26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-26_tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-26_tank)

could replace the t-70 light tank in any doctrine.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: cephalos on February 28, 2010, 07:12:10 PM
Su-76 - why not? Fast, light armoured anti tank vehicle. It should be similiar to PE AT halftrack.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SoccerSpartan on February 28, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
YES! su 76 would be an awsome tank to have in game and the T-26 would be a great replacement (maybe reward unit) for the t 70
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: 250.Inf. Div. on February 28, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
another two interesting units.

152mm br-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_gun_M1935_%28Br-2%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_gun_M1935_%28Br-2%29)

203mm b-4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/203_mm_howitzer_M1931_%28B-4%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/203_mm_howitzer_M1931_%28B-4%29)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: PSIHOPAT on February 28, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
203mm b-4 is awesome.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: funnyme on March 01, 2010, 08:57:39 AM
Hi,

The su 76 was made by Scruff but dont know if they still have the model though.

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4438/t34undsu76.jpg)
(http://www.easternfront.org/uploads/MrScruff/su76-02.jpg)

Regards
funnyme
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 01, 2010, 09:26:51 AM
Hi,
The su 76 was made by Scruff but dont know if they still have the model though.

Regards
funnyme
+1 to SU-76. If theres a model allready made than why not use it.

-1 to 152mm and 203mm guns. Russians allready have a firebase.

-1 to T-26. It was much more obsolete than a T-70.

A BT-7 tank is a better idea. Stubby 76mm gun and a very high max speed.
(http://v4.valkiria.net/skin/historia/druga_wojna/img/roz/anti/bt7jump.JPG)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: WartyX on March 01, 2010, 09:30:28 AM
The SU-76 was going to be used, but due to a serious bug on the model it was pulled in favour of the SU-85. We may see the SU-76 ingame yet.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Steve 'Burro' M. on March 01, 2010, 05:17:50 PM
We have another SU-76 model, Scruff never got around to skinning it but that's not a massive problem.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 02, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
Actually I have a great idea! Why not a KV-8? The flamethrower tank based off the kv-1 and had a 45mm (very outdated gun but good for light vehicles) on the same axis and then give the ostheer a pIII flampanzer which had a similar set up. Still how hard would it be to code the flames like from the crocodile onto something else and not cause any problems (crashes etc.)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 02, 2010, 02:30:22 PM
Actually I have a great idea! Why not a KV-8? The flamethrower tank based off the kv-1 and had a 45mm (very outdated gun but good for light vehicles) on the same axis and then give the ostheer a pIII flampanzer which had a similar set up. Still how hard would it be to code the flames like from the crocodile onto something else and not cause any problems (crashes etc.)
Nice. In 1941 1 of every 10 Soviet tanks kad a flamethrower. Churchill croc is rare so I want to see a KV-8.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Venoxxis on March 02, 2010, 02:41:50 PM
Actually I have a great idea! Why not a KV-8? The flamethrower tank based off the kv-1 and had a 45mm (very outdated gun but good for light vehicles) on the same axis and then give the ostheer a pIII flampanzer which had a similar set up. Still how hard would it be to code the flames like from the crocodile onto something else and not cause any problems (crashes etc.)
Nice. In 1941 1 of every 10 Soviet tanks kad a flamethrower. Churchill croc is rare so I want to see a KV-8.

yea its a awsome idea and a great looking vehicle.
maybe as a reward unit for the T-34?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 02, 2010, 05:25:30 PM
Maybe as an additional call in with the urban tree along with/or the kv-2? I think the urban tree needs a little sometin sometin, the kv-2 is way to squish as well as unreliable in killing efficiency, flamethrowers are too expensive until late game until you have some upgrades including sturmovie, partisan camo is bugged/cap slow/expensive man power to ability wise. Their nearest counter parts, the Luftwaffe get defenses, infiltrate, and off maps. Also it could instead become an upgrade for a t34 hull gun, dunno if individual upgrade would be right or even doctrinal (Urban?). What do the devs thin?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Versedhorison on March 02, 2010, 10:16:30 PM
Other than cosmetic purposes reward units did not replace doctrine units in Tales of valor. This is most likely for balance reasons and I'd advise not replacing doctrine units in this mod for that reason of balance.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 02, 2010, 11:03:50 PM
like i said it could be something like "Heavy City Combat Group" and give you to get the kv 8 and 2 as 2 separate buttons and costs
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 08, 2010, 03:17:09 AM
How come everyone overlooks the T-28 ? It had flaws but those were fixed in the T-28 M.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: ford_prefect on March 08, 2010, 03:19:09 AM
I vote for the flying tank Paciat showed us on the first page XD
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: 250.Inf. Div. on March 09, 2010, 08:33:39 PM
hi,another idea,add shermans tanks reinforcements.


Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: ford_prefect on March 10, 2010, 12:01:30 AM
rather bland don't ya think?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 10, 2010, 12:05:41 AM
Sounds a little British if you ask me, besides T-34/85 is much better than an American Sherman
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 11, 2010, 02:51:51 PM
IRL but COH thinks otherwise, and the t28 was never really "solved" it had less armor than anything that was considered a tank i can think of produced during the war, 30mm to a Stuart's 50mm 0_0... It would be cool but would die instantaneously and would be a SOB to code. I think a flame tank of some sort is the best idea.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 12, 2010, 12:34:44 AM
-.- And I thought I was a downer, the T-28's purpose was to be defense breaking,not a battleship, I just needs to be bullet proof and armed, Not shell proof.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 12, 2010, 12:59:42 AM
T-35, I know the gamer inside every one of you wants to see this.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 12, 2010, 01:19:48 AM
=) you're right, but not many others realize this, so I made do with T-28
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 12, 2010, 02:53:35 AM
T-35 would be epic.  ;D
Please consider it devs  :D
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 12, 2010, 08:55:25 AM
T-35 would be epic.  ;D
Please consider it devs  :D
3 Pak shots and "T-35 would be epic" no more.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Venoxxis on March 12, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
just for info, the T-35 has been considered already.
but yet it cant be included because of its 5 towers which
are pretty hard to animate.

but still, its an amazing vehicle ;)

(http://www.easternfront.org/uploads/Kamikaza22/T-35.jpg)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Versedhorison on March 12, 2010, 01:18:39 PM
and its a pretty fail tank.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 12, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
and its a pretty fail tank.
Not for mid game, as infantry support. In this case it is a pretty win tank.  ;D
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 12, 2010, 06:00:54 PM
just for info, the T-35 has been considered already.
but yet it cant be included because of its 5 towers which
are pretty hard to animate.

but still, its an amazing vehicle ;)

(http://www.easternfront.org/uploads/Kamikaza22/T-35.jpg)

But...it is possible to anitmate?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 12, 2010, 06:11:38 PM
But...it is possible to anitmate?

I really don't see why not. It'll probably be a headache for the devs, but they could do it. Remember McScruff and the T-34!
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 12, 2010, 06:29:02 PM
I remember Diablo being really skeptical about it being included ever. Which is sad, but who is to say another mod team might make it. N44 is adding the Soviets, althought they are not known for actually creating the models. All I can say is, it would be a great shame if we never see this beats on CoH battlefields.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 12, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Eastern Front could be the first COH mod to have tanks with multiple turrets. And you think Relic is watching now...
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 12, 2010, 09:28:37 PM
How about a SU-122 mobile artillery. It was a unit compareble to StuH but it could be an arti as well(mobile fire base). It was a rare gun but why not?
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/images/su122.jpg)
Or maybe BM-31 rocket louncher. It would fire massive and inaccurate 300mm rockets on short distances (like a walking stuka):
(http://1001info.net/images/BM-31-12%20on%20ZiS-6.jpg)
Both units could be a more expensive alternative for BM-13.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 12, 2010, 09:40:16 PM
How about a SU-122 mobile artillery. It was a unit compareble to StuH but it could be an arti as well(mobile fire base). It was a rare gun but why not?
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/images/su122.jpg)
Or maybe BM-31 rocket louncher. It would fire massive and inaccurate 300mm rockets on short distances (like a walking stuka):
(http://1001info.net/images/BM-31-12%20on%20ZiS-6.jpg)
Both units could be a more expensive alternative for BM-13.


SU-122 would be nice, although Armoured cars and light tanks should take priority. What about a lend-lease M3 Lee? Lend-leaae M5 halftrack?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: hgghg4 on March 12, 2010, 09:42:37 PM
What if the SU-122 was a Heavy Armored and slow replacement for the KV2? doesn't have a turret and about the same speed but a little more armor. and maybe an AC of some sort to replace the T90 AA tank
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 12, 2010, 09:46:20 PM
What if the ISU-122 was a Heavy Armored and slow replacement for the KV2? doesn't have a turret and about the same speed but a little more armor. and maybe an AC of some sort to replace the T90 AA tank

ISU-122 is too similiar to the ISU-152, which we already have.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 12, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
What about a lend-lease M3 Lee? Lend-leaae M5 halftrack?
If soviets had more than 1 fraction Lend lease vechicles would probably be included. Now there are just too much of unused soviet home made tanks.
What if the ISU-122 was a Heavy Armored and slow replacement for the KV2? doesn't have a turret and about the same speed but a little more armor. and maybe an AC of some sort to replace the T90 AA tank
It cant be slow(like ISU 152) becouse it was 2 tones lighter than T-34 (same hull). It would be like a StuH. Cromwell speed and armor (harder to hit than T-34 - sherman armor).
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Versedhorison on March 13, 2010, 12:28:23 AM
The T35 was and always will be a fail tank in real life and in any game. I'm probably gonna add it to my list.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 13, 2010, 01:04:23 AM
The T35 was and always will be a fail tank in real life and in any game. I'm probably gonna add it to my list.

You go and do that.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: guynumber7 on March 13, 2010, 05:23:30 AM
The SU122 was a good vehicile, fast, but with little armor and a heavy STuh like gun.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: hgghg4 on March 13, 2010, 06:55:11 AM
and it wasn't anything like the 152.... its barrel was shorter, smaller and was used more as a Mobile Arty Piece then a Tank Killer....
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 13, 2010, 07:00:59 AM
and it wasn't anything like the 152.... its barrel was shorter, smaller and was used more as a Mobile Arty Piece then a Tank Killer....

The ISU-122 is NOT to be confused with the SU-122. You posted it as the "ISU-122", which is an ISU-152 with the 122 mm gun M1931/37 (A-19) instead of the ISU-152's 152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20). Ok?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: hgghg4 on March 13, 2010, 09:51:34 PM
oh whoops fixed, thanks for the correction :P I made a mistake  :-\ er rather a tpyo
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 14, 2010, 08:08:03 PM
The SU122 was a good vehicile, fast, but with little armor and a heavy STuh like gun.
SU122 had more frontal armor and was 2 tones lighter than T-34. The only problem it had was that there was little room inside and it was bad at fighting tanks.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 14, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
What would the SU-122 replace anyway?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on March 14, 2010, 09:06:43 PM
What would the SU-122 replace anyway?
B-13 Katiusha or SU-85. If it would be a mobile arti, it would have to cost about 700MP (mere than priest/hommel).
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 14, 2010, 09:26:58 PM
A self-propelled howitzer replacing an self-propelled antitank gun? Think again.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Ost_Front_Soldat on March 14, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
The Geshutzwagon(a self-propelled AT gun) replaced the StuG IV assualt gun. While the StuG IV was also widely regarded as a tank destroyer, in CoH it is not.

Kangaroo APC replaced Cromwell IV medium tank.

Hotchkiss H-35 replaced Panzer IV Ausf.F1(both are infantry support, but very different).
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Shadowmetroid on March 14, 2010, 10:56:19 PM
True. Keep in mind, however, that at least one person will cry OP about this.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: hgghg4 on March 16, 2010, 06:48:54 AM
Hell I would rather fight a 122 then an 85... does less damage to tanks O_o
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 16, 2010, 02:36:08 PM
True. Keep in mind, however, that at least one person will cry OP about this.
They always do. :)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 16, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
I love how COH nerfs stugs even though they used a gun with near identical statistics as that of the P4 long guns
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 16, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
I love how they nerf AT guns, Stug can't penetrate something? well just bring in a pak with THE EXACT same gun and blow it away.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on March 16, 2010, 05:14:55 PM
Then tanks cannot shoot as far as AT guns lol? the opposite should be true as tanks often had superior optics if the AT guns had them at all
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on March 16, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
Doesnt the Bren carrier have "Shatter optics" ability haha I don't think the in-game crews used them in the first place. :)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Venoxxis on March 16, 2010, 05:33:47 PM
How about a SU-122 mobile artillery. It was a unit compareble to StuH but it could be an arti as well(mobile fire base). It was a rare gun but why not?
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/images/su122.jpg)

I gotta say that i Do love this idea Paciat. "It was a rare gun but why not?" Well, right. why not. Rilic doesnt care about facts like this as well.

But at the moment im just thinking about a sensefull slot in the soviet army to put it down (as a reward unit for sure). Surely its a heavy gun, so we gotta replace another heavy gunner.

My suggestions are replacing the -

1) KV-2 because its the most similiar unit thinking about how it would act like. Would also fit the style of urban fighting.

2) ISU-152 Since this vehicle can also be used as a breakthrough unit to replace the "taking forever to reload bigboy beastslayer which is in some eyes OP and in others just useless". A lot would like this for sure.

3) IS-2 non doctrinal SU-122?
sounds strange. but howw, maybe this would be a fresh idea. But yet i cant image by myself how this unit would work as a non doctrinal one. Saying - dangerous idea though..


Regards
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: comrade2012 on April 14, 2010, 12:27:54 AM
The KV-1 would be really cool. The only question is whether to have it called in or manufactured. If it were my decision, I would have it manufactured, and given the ability to be upgraded to an 85mm gun, but thats just me.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on April 14, 2010, 04:01:11 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: ford_prefect on April 14, 2010, 05:17:19 AM
T-26!!!!!!!
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on April 14, 2010, 05:44:51 AM
Yeah T-26 would be cool but its a bit worn out by 1944.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Versedhorison on April 14, 2010, 10:13:31 AM
The KV-1 would be really cool. The only question is whether to have it called in or manufactured. If it were my decision, I would have it manufactured, and given the ability to be upgraded to an 85mm gun, but thats just me.

This is something I raised in a thread regarding the KV1 as a reward unit until it was locked.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Panzer4life on April 14, 2010, 07:43:47 PM
While i like the vehicle selection for the Soviet Army as it now sits, the only tanks/vehicles i would like to see would be the BT-7 fast tank (as fast as the Hellcat tank destoyer), and that would be it. We don't need lend lease vehicles, we don't need trucks, and we don't need a replacement for certain doctrine units.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Paciat on April 14, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
While i like the vehicle selection for the Soviet Army as it now sits, the only tanks/vehicles i would like to see would be the BT-7 fast tank (as fast as the Hellcat tank destoyer), and that would be it. We don't need lend lease vehicles, we don't need trucks, and we don't need a replacement for certain doctrine units.
The funny thing about COH is that M-10 is faster than M-18 and Sherman is faster than Cromwell. Anyway BT-7 would be a smaller faster T-34.

You dont like the idea of a KV flame tank?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: comrade2012 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:37 AM
Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Jono on April 15, 2010, 01:01:57 PM
what about the SU-76 Assult gun as a reward unit for the T-90
It would an effective anti tank vs medium tank but be weak against heavy tanks and would be okay vs inf but not as effective as the T-90 and still have the weak armour of the light tanks
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: SauerKRAUT on April 15, 2010, 05:11:13 PM
2 things The KV-85 was made in very small numbers as a stop gap against tiger Is till enough IS2's could make it to the front and Paciat the Sherman was actually the slowest medium tank of the war at about 25 MPH (cromwell could do 40 and even panthers could do 30-35 MPH) but you are pretty right on the m10 comparison they were almost identical besides the armament.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: comrade2012 on April 16, 2010, 11:59:09 PM
The Panther was faster than the M4 Sherman, but not as fast as the later Sherman's. However, most of the time the Panther couldn't reach its max speed capabilities because it was rushed into the war, and consequently had some major mechanical issues.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Seeme on April 17, 2010, 01:23:38 AM
Lol. Shermans were out before panthers. Then when Sherman got improved, panthers came out.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: comrade2012 on April 17, 2010, 05:21:52 AM
No. the M4 sherman was first introduced in North Africa in 1942. The first Panthers ( Panther D) came out just in time for the battle of Kursk(1943), and was a dissaster. Their engines were all cathing on fire!!!! So, the Germans fixed it.

Now, the Panther became a really good tank and the allies realized we didnt have anything as good. All we had was the Sherman. In late 1944/early 1945 we made the Sherman M4A3E8 which had a long barrel 76mm gun, HVSS suspension, and a Ford V8 engine(which made it faster than the Panther).

Panthers were upgraded too. However, all the upgrades the Germans gave the Panther made it slower, not faster. They gave it a redesigned hull, and additional armor. Whereas American Shermans were upgraded in mobility.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: guynumber7 on April 18, 2010, 01:31:38 AM
Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm

The Bt5/7 normally had a 45mm 20k, same as the T70.

the BT7A, however, featured a short barreled 76mm KT26 howiser to use vs infantry. it woul dbe cool to see a fast unit with a powerful anti fort/inf howister.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: comrade2012 on April 20, 2010, 03:17:46 AM
Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm

The Bt5/7 normally had a 45mm 20k, same as the T70.


the BT7A, however, featured a short barreled 76mm KT26 howiser to use vs infantry. it woul dbe cool to see a fast unit with a powerful anti fort/inf howister.

cool, I did not know that. That would definately be a cool upgrade to have.

Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: UeArtemis on May 23, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
M4A2(76)W "Emcha"
(http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enc_tech/sherman_22.jpg)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles%28bis%29/USSR/3-MediumTanks/M4A2%2876%29WSherman/p1.jpg)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles%28bis%29/USSR/3-MediumTanks/M4A2%2876%29WSherman/p2.jpg)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles%28bis%29/USSR/3-MediumTanks/M4A2%2876%29WSherman/p3.jpg)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Akalonor on May 23, 2010, 05:34:35 PM
Don't the soviets already have a sherman?
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: ford_prefect on May 23, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
thats the one their using
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: PSIHOPAT on June 02, 2010, 01:18:38 PM
I have a Question and i would say here,because i don't want to create another topic just for that.

This model can be used in EF ?
http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/dnm/model_disp.php?uid=1490&count=count (http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/dnm/model_disp.php?uid=1490&count=count)
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: InkvizitoR_51rus on June 02, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
It is not true that T-34-57 with 57mm cannon, which is very good pierce armor tigers and panthers from 1000 meters. Developers, remove the tanks T-70 and T-90, better make the BT-7 and KV-1.
Title: Re: --idea for new soviets tanks--
Post by: Zerstörer on June 02, 2010, 06:45:34 PM
Nope...on both the above posts  :P