Company of Heroes: Eastern Front
Eastern Front Mod (Read-Only) => Community Events and Tournaments => Topic started by: donthateme on December 22, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
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Hello community!
As I am mentoring for some years now in vCoH, my former mentee asked me some days ago, if its possible to create a similar "mentor-program" for EF too. So new players in EF can learn by experienced players how to play with/against USSR-faction (teching, strategys...). Note that the mentoring-program is exclusivley for PvP-matches (1v1), not for games vs computer.
For all those who never heard of the mentoring-programm or what a mentor is/has to do, please check the following links of gamereplays.org:
How to mentor--> http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=397141
What is the mentor/mentee program?--> http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=363282
So If anyone is interessted in being a mentor or players who are searching a mentor, just sign in here.
Please post if you want to sign in as a mentor or a mentee, your in-game-name, maybe X-Fire-account-name, your age, your nationality/language, your timezone, your faction you are good in or want to get better and your skill-level so its easier to find the perfect mentor/mentee for you. You also should have a microphone, so the mentor/mentee can use Teamspeak or Mumble to discuss with each other.
If you have any questions about mentoring then please pm me.
Regards.
Sign in as: mentor for 1v1
In-game-name: scientificcasualties
X-Fire: scientificcasualties
Age: 26
Nationality/Language: German/english
Timezone: GMT +2
Factions: All (except RMC)
Skill/Level: Lvl 12-14 with all factions; I play CoH since 2006
Hello guys,
donthateme started the mentor/mentee project for EF.
i realy like that idea and hope that many of our good players will join here.
we will edit this first post so all people can always fast see if there is a free mentee or mentor available
also we will post which mentee is linked to his mentor
to make it easy here is also a timezone map
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8267/worldtimememr1.gif)
Open Mentors:
GenVRMoran(Panzer4life): Language: English; Timezone: GMT -5; Factions: Wehr, PE, SU, RMC
Open Mentees:
117Havoc: Language: German / English; Timezone:GMT +1;
totalrecall(SnappingTurtle): Language: English; Timezone: GMT, Factions: Whatever; Skill/Level: Lvl 3, but I've beaten lvl 9s, I just don't play often at all
Icebreaker120: X-Fire: theredbaron2; Language: English, French (not very good), German (Currently studying also not very good.); Timezone: GMT; Factions: Okay with Brits and Panzer Elite, not very good with Soviet Union and Americans; Skill/Level: Level 4 - Brits, Level 4 - Panzer Elite, Level 2- Wermacht and Level 1 Soviet Union
TheAllMightyOne: Steam: [DE]TheAllMightyOne, WallNemesis; Language: English, Swedish (futile spanish and german); Timezone: GMT +1; Factions: any realy I could realy need improvement in all of them; Skill/Level: I'm LvL 1 on all factions
linked mentees
donthateme -> Fishhunterx
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hmm. sounds like a good idea to me. (not that id be able to mentor anyone) i feel like i am always seeing posts from people who say "this mod sucks" and other crap, when i nreality, they just dont know how to play.
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Can I join :D? I wanna be a mentee. I heard about a program like this on Gamereplays :P
Sign in as: Mentee
In-game-name: Fishhunterx
X-Fire: Fishhunterx (but I rarley use it, I use AIM)
Language: English, some spanish
Timezone: GMT -4
Factions: Okay with Brit, Wher, Ami. Not so great with PE and SU
Skill/Level: Lvl 5 with PE + Ami, Lvl 6 with Wher, Lvl 8 with brit, Kinda suck with SU. Playing since 2010
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Hey Fish, I wrote you a PM.
Regards.
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Timezone: How do you know find? ???
if donthateme only wants it in terms of gmt time, you will need to find out the GMT or London time and then say how many hours difference. for example, since donthateme has GMT plus two hours, he probably lives in either Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, or Switzerland. anyways, take the GMT time and add or subtract till you get your time, and then there you go. for example, i live in GMT -8.
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Considering how u live in California and I live in NY, I think my time is GMT -4
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maybe if you lived in peru. ;) try GMT-5
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8267/worldtimememr1.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/worldtimememr1.gif/)
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maybe if you lived in peru. ;) try GMT-5
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8267/worldtimememr1.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/worldtimememr1.gif/)
This is actually pretty helpful :P
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this was a realy good idea
i hope many player will use this
and hopfully we create a bigger community :D
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So exactly how many mentors and mentees are there. Besides donthateme and me ???
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You know I would certainly volunteer to be a Mentor but I don't really have the time to :*(
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No time for me either Crani. Such busy lives we lead.
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So exactly how many mentors and mentees are there. Besides donthateme and me ???
The problem is that the mod's pretty much dead, so no one actually goes to these forums anymore. :-\ I'm not trying to be the doomsayer here, but this is the straight truth. I never beat around the fucking bush.
It used to be us (Sublime) and all the balancers who kept playing EF and kept it alive by hosting basic match games once in a while. Sublime Snugz and Glimz has moved back to vCoH, along with me to play with my skinpack, Cranial and Dennis are busy in RL, and Killar and Ape have also moved back to vCoH. The forum going down was the nail in the coffin. Now all the EF games you see in the lobby are utter garbage compstomp or noobshit map / settings games.
Its basically over, and I really doubt Ostheer is going to be a big enough boost to bring the mod back to life, since there's already German factions in the game. The hype, if there's any at all, just won't be the same. The Ostheer is just another German faction with a few new models (nothing really new, despite what some people will want to portray), and even vCoH is getting old. Its a great game, (IMO the BEST game ever) but this is the truth. Back in the day when the USSR was released, vCoH was already starting to go on the wrong side of the slope. Now, forget about talking about mods; even vCoH is in decline.
Even as I'm typing this, there's only 5 registered users on these forums. Even on prime time, there's only an average of around 10-12 registered users, and usually over 60% of them are either devs or balancers, and they're only the same people every time. The daily guys. Its sad, and it fucking sucks, but that's really how it is. The Ostheer needs to come soon, and it really, really needs a huge-ass publicity miracle if EF mod wants to stay on the radar at all.
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So exactly how many mentors and mentees are there. Besides donthateme and me ???
The problem is that the mod's pretty much dead, so no one actually goes to these forums anymore. :-\ I'm not trying to be the doomsayer here, but this is the straight truth. I never beat around the fucking bush.
No, I agree. Unfortunetly the crowd for vCOH declines for various reasons which also effects the crowd for EF. If you have ever visited the GR.com forums they always talk about vCOH being dead, whether ppl still play, and if there is a COH2 (which I personally doubt)
But the community of EF can still try and keep this mod alive and active by hosting little things like mentor progrmas and tournaments and basic games(cause they're so fucking rare these days, yeah I cursed excuse me). Its these actions that will show ppl that this mod is still worth looking at and maybe pursuade them to join (although probably not that many ppl). Despite the dwindling crowd we can still try our best :D.
And Ostheer might not draw in too many ppl at least it'll bring in some :P. Hopefully they're not comp stompers :P
The only thing that might work (for EF ppl still here) is to have games on a regular schedualed basis. Like every friday or saturday for example. Just like the touraments that tried to take place b4 the timing went all wrong and shit happened. Then another attempt by both hosters and attendies never occured. The community must be tenacious in these games and actually attend :P
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man it hurts for you to lay it all out like that yauz, but now that you mention it, i think you're right. even the COH online stuff put on by relic failed. one might even go as far as to say that relic is dying. well, ill keep playing EF, and fish is right about the scheduled game stuff. if EF started having ritual tournaments, then im pretty sure we could revive this mod, at least for a while. i know pretty much 99% of COH players have heard of EF, and im willing to bet that at least 50% have it, even if they play vcoh instead.
EDIT: this mod is not dead, it may not be in its glory days, but its definitely not dead. dead is- no longer in use : obsolete, no longer producing or functioning,having the appearance of death. this mod is not dead yet.
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Well, let's hope when the new patch is released a lot of players retyrn to EF ;D.
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Well, let's hope when the new patch is released a lot of players retyrn to EF ;D.
Well, people will return but for maybe few days, weeks and again EF will be empty, i mean game. Same were with previous patches. There is hope in ostheer but... you know...
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Well at first i have to say that EF is still one of the most busy forums for coh mods. If our forum is already dying how will it be for other mods?
About plp leaving EF. Well the balance and gameplay of the soviets is not ready even after 2 years of development! We will change this with the next patch. Currently the soviet faction in the beta has already improved so much that its so lots of fun to play it. I think a good 1vs1 tourney will lure plp in. Remember the last failed tourney. There were many high ranked players that wanted to take part.
I would avoid the word "dead" because even today there is a solid player base for coh version 1.0 and 1.7. They play on other servers and have much fun. Even if EF development has stopped, plp will still continue to play it. Me for my part play still very old games because they make fun.
And what yauz said about we moved back to vcoh. Of course we did because we don´t have any fun with playing the current patch if we have access to the beta. Some of our friends dont have so we play vanilla with them. This will change with the next patch.
I was against to start this mentor programm now because it comes at a the wrong time.
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indeed^^
we moved back to vCoH because all of our mates has no beta access.
another problem was/is that our last patch was good but in some parts the balance failed extremly
and if your familiar with the current beta you dont want to play the older version :D
but your right
we (the dev team) have to be more active.
that means we have to organisate in the future more tournaments (hopefull with high ranked players), we should ask one or two of the professional shoutcasters if they want to shoutcast our tournaments.
the mentor/mentee program should start with the next big patch.
and we should start ostheer balance asap
the next patch alone will not lead into the big return to ef, but it is the beginning
i hope i havent missed something important^^
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The key is the high level players. Once there is a competitive community here, the noobs will follow. The problem I always had with EF was that it was always too noob-oriented, with things like AI improvements, noob factions like the RMC, and noobshit maps like Leningrad and such. Really, aside from the fact that it fucks up my skins, the AI just encourages compstompers, because it gives them a further excuse not to play with humans. Maps like Leningrad also serve as an excuse to play on a noob map, while still playing on an EF map. You can always attract noobs with a high level player base, but you cannot attract a competitive community with a noob player base, such as the one we have right now.
Noobs are good for making it seem like there are more actual games hosted than there really are, when they're hosting their compstomps / noob map & settings matches, but other than that, they're useless to have around. There is no need to woo the sheep one by one. Capture the shepherds, and the sheep will follow.
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Capture the shepherds, and the sheep will follow.
QFT .... enough garbage excuses allready, fineally truth hits the halls of the deaf
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Problem is there are only so many of these high lvl players you suggest we bring in and have host games. And a majority of them are too preoccupied to do such things (balancing, RL is a bitch)
We would have to get players to preform better. Thus a mentor programs fills that role. Unfortunetly without mentors(no one besdies donthateme can do it so far) that area falls short of producing quality players. Latley I've just been playing EF Skrimish hard/expert como b/c its not even worth it to join a "noob stomp" game on say Zhythmor (excuse the spelling). And when I host a game sometimes ppl join but it rarley happens
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Thus a mentor programs fills that role. Unfortunetly without mentors(no one besdies donthateme can do it so far) that area falls short of producing quality players.
but currently you are also the only mentee right? :D
Latley I've just been playing EF Skrimish hard/expert como b/c its not even worth it to join a "noob stomp" game on say Zhythmor (excuse the spelling). And when I host a game sometimes ppl join but it rarley happens
i know sometimes its realy boring if you host a game and realy nobody will join.
we hope the better balance will improve this situation.
we also want to start a new 1vs1 tournament after the next patch
btw i will edit always the first post so all can see which mentor is free and which mentee still needs a mentor :D
so if there are still mentors and mentees please post ^^
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But the community of EF can still try and keep this mod alive and active by hosting little things like mentor progrmas and tournaments and basic games(cause they're so fucking rare these days, yeah I cursed excuse me). Its these actions that will show ppl that this mod is still worth looking at and maybe pursuade them to join (although probably not that many ppl). Despite the dwindling crowd we can still try our best :D.
Thats the point... By saying "This mod is dead" its not getting better... EF is a great mod, and we should try keeping it popular. Anyways, please keep this thread clean of discussions and things like that... For imporovements or suggestions you can send me a PM.
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Sign in as: Mentee and Mentor <-- Wehr only
In-game-name: 117Havoc
X-Fire:Not in Use! But i have Skype and MSN
Language: German / English
Timezone:GMT +1
Faction: Wehrmacht only
Skill/Level: My ingame Rank is not so goob but I can play the Wehrmacht realy good playing it since 2009
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I love this mod, and i think we need to get the newcomers up and running faster, as a lot of the time, they get into games where they get stomped on hard by players who use super Soviet Spam tactics. So i will help those who face the wrath of the red tide.
Sign in as: mentor for 1v1
In-game-name: GenVRMoran
X-Fire: don't use X-fire but will use in-game chat.
Age: 17
Nationality/Language: English
Timezone: GMT -5
Factions: Wehr, PE, SU, RMC
Skill/Level: Been playing CoH since 2009.
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Hooray! More mentors :D. Now we just need some more mentees :P
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Why not advertise the mod at CoH forums? The more people that know the mod exist, the more will join. Also, it would help if the devs sent more infor on the progress of the mod, so that people will know it isn't dead. It happened to a mod i enjoyed playing, and now since no one knows what is going on, the support the mod had kind of died out. :-\ So the devs need to make sure that the fan base doesn't die out.
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Why not advertise the mod at CoH forums? The more people that know the mod exist, the more will join. Also, it would help if the devs sent more infor on the progress of the mod, so that people will know it isn't dead. It happened to a mod i enjoyed playing, and now since no one knows what is going on, the support the mod had kind of died out. :-\ So the devs need to make sure that the fan base doesn't die out.
We could try advertising at the COH forums :P Does it cost money? I wouldn't know tbh
@Panzer4life: What mod are you talking about???
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The mod in question was Command and Conquer's Rise of the Red mod. It was going strong, but after a year of silence, people began to joke about a revival. And I don't know either about advertising, whether is cost anything.
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i dont think i need a full on mentor, but it seems whenever i play as SU i end up spamming tank hunter and strelky blobs.
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mh ok this thread was created for mentors or mentees
so mentors can find a new manetee or a mentee a new mentor
this topic is not for discussion or spamming
so plz keep this topic clean
thx
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I think what stealthattack is asking for is a SU mentor :P
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@ stealthattack1: If you need a mentor for SU, please sign in as in first post explained.
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Sign in as: Mentee
In-game-name: totalrecall
Steam: SnappingTurtle
Language: English
Timezone: GMT
Factions: Whatever
Skill/Level: Lvl 3, but I've beaten lvl 9s, I just don't play often at all
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Sign in as: Mentee
In-game-name : Icebreaker120
X-Fire: theredbaron2
Language: English, French (not very good), German (Currently studying also not very good.)
Timezone: GMT
Factions: Okay with Brits and Panzer Elite, not very good with Soviet Union and Americans
Skill/Level: Level 4 - Brits, Level 4 - Panzer Elite, Level 2- Wermacht and Level 1 Soviet Union
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So now there is 4 or 5 mentees and 2 mentors. Hooray :D!
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So Havoc117 may be a Mentor for SnappingTurtle for Wehrmacht and Panzer4Life a Mentor for Icebreaker125 for USSR-faction. You guys should write each other a PM to get a time when you can play together. This way you can see if you can learn by each other or not...
@ Fish: If you want to do some games with me, feel free just to send me a PM.
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So now there is 4 or 5 mentees and 2 mentors. Hooray :D!
Depending on the other's skill level I guess I could mentor someone worse than me, though I'm not entirely sure what "mentoring" entails. To be sure, I could give some advice to some of the worse players. Even if it's just "stop capping the VPs first" :D
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Sign in as: Mentee
In-game-name: TheAllMightyOne
Steam: [DE]TheAllMightyOne, WallNemesis
X-fire:Pontus2000(don't expect to connect with me there)
Language: English, Swedish (futile spanish and german)
Timezone: GMT +1
Factions: any realy I could realy need improvement in all of them but I'd be pleased with whermacht and soviets so that i can plan as either side in a 1v1.
Skill/Level: I'm LvL 1 on all factions as I have resorted to only playing skirmish games because of not managing 1v1 games but with this mentor programe I am ready to get back into the fray.
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... though I'm not entirely sure what "mentoring" entails. ...
Plz check the links of "gamereplays.org" I posted in the first post.
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Sign in as: Mentee
In game name: Dann88 (and some other secret aliases)
Steam: no, just no
X-fire: what is X-fire?
Language: English (Vietnamese if you want to try).
Timezone: I don't care, seriously.
Looking for: GodLikeDennis as mentor. Improve any strats of any factions I play. Learn something about competive 2vs2.
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So now there is 4 or 5 mentees and 2 mentors. Hooray :D!
Depending on the other's skill level I guess I could mentor someone worse than me, though I'm not entirely sure what "mentoring" entails. To be sure, I could give some advice to some of the worse players. Even if it's just "stop capping the VPs first" :D
Well what donthateme does with me is I send him replays and he crtiques them and gives me feedback. We also play games and I get to see some more expert gameplay and he tells me things and ask me questions to see what Im doing wrong :P
BTW Im not that bad myself (well, maybe I am) so I too could mentor ppl who are worse than me :P
Looking for: GodLikeDennis as mentor. Improve any strats of any factions I play. Learn something about competive 2vs2.
I dont think you can "request" specific mentors per say. Espcially if the person you are requesting isnt a mentor :P. There are a number of skilled players who are mentors
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I dont think you can "request" specific mentors per say. Espcially if the person you are requesting isnt a mentor :P. There are a number of skilled players who are mentors
@Fish: not all of them are mandatory.
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No time for me either Crani. Such busy lives we lead.
i think that means you wont be having him as a mentor. :P
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Well, I feel pretty honoured to be specifically requested. I'll have more time in 2 weeks I think.
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Is this topic still alive??
I would like to register as a mentee
greetings SM
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THis topic is pretty much dead BUT Im sure there are 1 or 2 EF ppl willing to help. I would help but my mouse broke :(
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thanks for the answer Bread Fish :)
but can the people who still have pleasure to be a mentor leave a message or something else??
that would be nice
greetings
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I begin to play EF again lately.
Add me in-game: Dann88.
My skill is normal, play with me some 1v1 so you can have replays to provide balancers so they can give you some tips. And of course I can give you some tips too.
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Dann is being modest. He's one of the better players in the community who isn't a balancer.
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Yeah giving us a replay would help a lot
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thanks for the quick answers :)
and Dann I`m really looking forward to our matches ;D
In-game-name: Mummel,Cocowan
skill: can I appreciate bad
Fraction is really identical
all depends of the map
I don`t have save a replay so i will it redirect ;)
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Hi mate
fill up this http://www.doodle.com/brwkqh97ncp6yst5
and stay onlain
This are the times for this weekend when you will be onlain to play EF :)
Dann and Darc are the first 2 :)
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If you don't have any replays no thats fine. Just upload them when you get them.
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Well I'm not being modest, I wrote what I thought lol
And you exposed my secret identity >:(
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wow so cool thanks all :D
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I'd sign up to be a "mentee" for this in a heart-beat... But living in Australia would make arranging anything problematic at best :(
I guess I'll have to suffice with replay feed-back: http://www.mediafire.com/?3o1t7ow96t0vybz - It was a 1v1 VPgame. Technically I lost in points, but I figure that's just because my opponent was being nice ^^; The one big failing I spotted myself is that I waited too long to get AT guns out to counter (or even prevent) his light vehicle rush...
~JD
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Okay so I watched the replay. These are just my thoughts. If you don't agree that's fine:
-Getting 3 Inginery is risky early game and they dont have a lot of fighting power either so you might cap fast but you will die even faster. It's not like US where u can get 4 engineers and be okay. And then instead of getting infantry you get more Inginery
-When building your first building (typically T1) always build it at the edge of your build space. That way units can deploy faster and reinforce away from HQ
-Don't build both buildings (T1 and T2) as SU and not even make anything from T1. It leaves you with too little units. Stay to one tier until you are ready to escalate to the next one. And if you've got both tiers then just build Strelky, not conscripts.
-Don't buy an upgrade for a unit you don't even have. It just waste fuel and resources
-Don't cap a point with more than 1 unit. It doesn't help and it only puts you at a disadvantage.
-Don't build an MG nest early game on a 1v1. It waste so many resources that could have gone into teching or new units. And the enemy can just go around it (considering how you positioned it).
-Don't build under fire. You take 4x the dmg from doing so. And there is no point in putting an Outpost on a strategic point because you get no extra resources.
-You need to harass the other side of the map, not just bunker down on one side.
-You blob too much. Spread out
- You let him have 2 medium fuels which means you should have expected armor of some sort (which came in the form of a flame HT base rushing)
-You captured his MG and just left it in your base for a while. One of the main weaknesses of the SU is their lack of a suppression unit (you even built an MG). If you have one use it, and be aggressive with it.
-If you are getting attacked by flamers do not run into green cover. You take like 1.5x the dmg
-You had 70-80 fuel and instead of getting tanks immediately you bought Sturmovie which u didn't need. You needed AT desperately.
-You picked your doctrine way too early. BT would have helped a lot since all he did was spam light vehicles until t4
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I'm from Vietnam! Near Australia ;D
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Yeah GLD and Dann can help you as they are both near you. Im sure there are more ppl but I dont know them
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where I should upload my replay??
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You can upload replays in "Eastern Front replays". Create a thread like: "Sanchez Mucherrato's awesome replays" then upload replays to that thread and you're good to go. ;D
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Or here like drakus did
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ok thanks
but it`s a ranking match and I play on normal CoH
it that a problem??
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This is the wrong thread. If you want to post replays and want to get feedback, post it in the replay-section. This thread is ONLY for finding mentors/mentees, and not for discussing gameplay - better do this by PM.
Also, if you want to post vCoH-games, you will find way more ppl watching your replays if you post them at GR.
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Then in that case just post it in the replay section. And tbh no one cares if its vCOH. Its not a EF specific section, its just a replay section