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Messages - spanishfly
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« on: February 18, 2010, 12:07:06 AM »
Fair enough - I'm not going to bend over backwards to convince you, I've already written enough responses to your one-liners. I have plenty of Polish friends who aren't as close-minded as you so whatever.
Man really? Sorry but you're opinion matters so much for me, that I cannot stand your rejection...
You know what? And I have many Russian friends who do not ask me to glorify their heroes. If for you it was a well-organised bunch of superheroes and so be it. Do I force you to pay your respect to the polish heroes who defeated Russian Army in 1920? No I don't.
So tell me, why am I close-minded? Because I disagree with you? You said that Soviet Army was a professional army. But still - sorry it wasn't. It was well organised - I must agree, victories did not come from nothing. But man - calling Soviet soldiers professionals, just because they knew how to kill is a mistake. For me the meaning of "professional army" is something more than just effectivness on the battlefield.
People - from now on, we can say only good things about the Soviet Army, because "thebomb" said so.
I'll start - thank you, Soviet Army, for bringing never-ending peace to my country. I'm glad that you saved me from the German oppression.
And now for serious - thanks to all Soviet soldiers who fought, believing that they are bringing freedom.
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« on: February 17, 2010, 11:45:19 PM »
I don't know what to tell you, the results speak for themselves.
Yep, the result - over 20 mil soviets dead - once again, Soviets won by numbers; Sorry, but I will never say anything good about soviet officers. For me they're just scum.
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The Soviets were fighting for freedom from German oppression.
Unfortunately, you brought "your" freedom to Poland as well.
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« on: February 17, 2010, 06:51:51 PM »
WWII started not on 1.9.1939. It was started when Westernies treated Czechoslovakia and let Hitler occupy Austria. 1938Says who? Do you recall any battle in Czechoslovakia od Austria? Or maybe you're talking about the political situation? Than maybe the II WW starded in 1919 after the I WW? Or maybe in 1795 when Russia, Prussia and Austria had divided Poland? Or maybe it starded in 1410 in Tannenberg? Artillerist - once again you do not understand what you're saying. You cannot see the difference between military conflict and annexation. I suggest that you should read more or at least say smth which has any sense. P.S. USSR was not the only who made a pact with Hitler. Baltic countries signed same pacts (defencive pacts, to-not-attack-each-other-pact) BEFORE USSR.Once again - It's not even worth to explain you over and over again the same problem. If you do not see the difference between non aggression pacts and a plan of military conquest of another country...than I think that you really should read some books man... Fighting for freedom and fighting for existance is very very different things.
You will never understand that, pnoozi.Yea- because in his country people never had to fight for their freedom against those damn Soviets, ne? 
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« on: February 17, 2010, 07:28:36 AM »
There were thousands of factors that played a role, one of which was the competence and professionalism of the Soviet army.
Lol? What was professional in Soviet Army? O_O I may agree that this was the biggest army...but professional...man...just no ;p
Just because Soviets were winning battles by numbers, it doesn't mean that the whole organisation was professional.
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« on: February 14, 2010, 01:33:57 AM »
Soviet attack was totally unwaited to Hitler. He didnt knew about Stalins plans over eastern PolandJust as Der Deutsche said - Ribbentrop - Molotov Pact. I'm not suggesting that Hitler and Stalin were "pals". I'm just saying that Hitler and Stalin worked together for a long time  Napaść na Polskę----------------------------------------------------------- And once again - I don't understand WHY should we think, that Hitler was worse than Stalin. They were just the same - the only difference is that one of them won the war. That's all.
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« on: February 12, 2010, 10:04:23 PM »
Stalin approached the Western powers first in the hope of making a formal deal with them to stop Hitler. But after Poland refused Soviet troops and Belgium refused French troops, Stalin took his business elsewhere because the Western powers weren't serious about stopping HitlerBecause for Poland or other Western countries Soviets were just the same threat as Hitler. The moment Polish government would allow the Soviet Army to enter Poland - it would be the end of freedom in Poland. Yes, I read about a Polish-German cooperation.Lol - so read more There were no such cooperation from the polish side. Both Japanese and German suggestions were declined by the polish foreign minister. There were no plans of invasion on USSR in Poland. And when you're trying to compare polish actions in Czechoslovakia and Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939, try to compare the results of both those actions. Try to count the victims of polish rule in Cieszyn (mainly inhabited by Poles) and the Soviet aggression on "Kresy" in 1939. In fact, not huge. It coincides with the ethnic maps in the 85-99%Source? If novadays, most of Belarussians speaks Russian....than it means that the nation do not exist?
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« on: February 12, 2010, 07:35:57 PM »
Probably the most stupid topic ever...
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« on: February 12, 2010, 04:36:16 PM »
It is good ethnic map. Here you can see real ethnic polish lands.It's a language map not an ethnic map. And it's a huge difference. P.S. I am not an anti-polish fanatic. For example, I do not think that Crimea is an Ukrainian land. Just would be good if countries had borders corresponding ethnic linesAs there are no ukrainians there novadays Only Russian fleet...and Russian propaganda. --------------------------------------------------------- You had your vision of polish borders few years ago and it looked like that: http://www.culls-page.de/WW%20II%20Karten/Second_world_war_europe_1940_map_de.pngThat would be perfect, nah? It's a shame that Soviets and Germans broke their alliance...they were such a nice couple. Atak Sowiecki 1939 (German and Soviet friends 1939)
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« on: February 10, 2010, 10:47:39 PM »
Last time i checked it...China was not in Europe. I was aiming at the "Finland" argument ;p To be honest - for me it would be a lot more interesting to play a game about the beggining of the war. In my opinion II WW from 1942-1945 is just too boring after all those movies, games etc. etc. And I'm not talking just about Poland...but about France or Finland from 1939 - 1940. If it goes to the Japanese. I would rather see a game about Japanese-Chinese conflict than another shit about the Pacific ;p It's just boring. ---------------------------------------------------------- Paciat, pisałem o Europie  Chociaż czy ruskie były mocniejsze od nas to też cholera wie (poza tym, że mogli nas "przykryć czapkami") - w Finlandii zbyt wiele nie pokazali ;p ----------------------------------------------------------
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« on: February 10, 2010, 09:43:57 AM »
It was to UeArthemis ;p
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« on: February 10, 2010, 09:41:39 AM »
In my opinion it doesn't have sense. If we would count all the nations who were a part of the Soviet Army we would have like 666 different factions.
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« on: February 10, 2010, 12:42:05 AM »
Only country that embarrassed Russia? You've clearly never heard of the Russo-Japanese war.It's not the topic about kicking bolsheviks ass, ok?  (Although topic is very close to my heart - polish -bolshevik war 1920 ;p) If it goes to Finland...well...they had their moment during the war with Soviets...but after all they were rather a weak country before and during the II WW. In my opinion the most powerful countries in Europe at the beggining of the war were: 1. Germany 2. France 3. Soviet Union 4. Poland 5. Italy 6. Great Britain And I think that only the first 3 countries could compete with Japan at that time.
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« on: February 10, 2010, 12:23:35 AM »
The Soviet army is not an American imperialistic army the USSR was a peaceful country before Afghanistan and didn't wage wars Czechoslovakia 1967
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« on: February 02, 2010, 10:08:46 AM »
We too have suffered in those times.I've never said that Ukrainians and Russians did not suffered. As I said - I respect all victims of the II World War - no matter what was their nationality. What we must agree UeArtemis - that Poland, Ukraine, Bielarus and eastern Germany saw the REAL II World War. The things that French or Americans saw was nothing to the cruelty of the war in the eastern Europe. We were the nations who fought Germans from the very begining of the II World War (many Ukrainians and Belarussians were in the polish army - often as officers). In Poland you can still find the effects of the II WW. You can find destroyed buildings in Warsaw: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Uprising_bank_polski.jpg You can meet people who saw how Germans were burining down enitre villiges.
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