What you are saying maccollo is that your opponent made bad mistakes.
Anyway there was patch that fixed a bit the mid game with the incresae of the survival capacities of mortar and Zis.
just, why do u think sov midgame is so underpowered? best mortar, best sniper, very good at gun, tank hunter to prevent flak to at gun... make sniper with at gun. nothing can come close. thats how up sov midgame is... support wsc units with command squad and outpost and its done, u dont need any doctrine or tanks..... they just make things easyer. well like i said id be glad to show u, if u want, and maybe ull change ur mind about this. or maybe i will but i doubt that 
What you are saying is interesting. You can win with only support units?
?! Ok pioflammers vetted or nebels and bye bye everything or hetzer + mortar ht + blob mp44
I think you have misunderstood me :
-Tank rifles are not up, they have been buffed and they can kill a panther ok
-But, what I said, is in low ammo map (ha! don't play high ressources with US player that can make observation posts!) improving units cost ammo, you can get with the upgrade a good mortar. But I don't want to have a strategy around support unit as mortar. Why? Because, very easy to lose (less with the new patch ok, but before yea) I have to recognize that I often went propaganda so I prefered to wait for a katyusha and spend for IS2 and guards.
-Now with the patch soviets mid game is less up since conscrits can get molotov for only 125 ammo.
"improving resources also isnt in because sov can secure the map easly early and hold it with outpost"
Easly early??!! Ok they need to mass their units to fight and if you do well you can anilhate the entire early soviets units. Or just can make some damage and back. This actually depends on the map. So it is hard to say who will have the advantage on early game.
"unbelievable, they dont need much muni and fuel as it is"
Yea but have you seen the manpower they need, how it goes down fastly?
"infact go play sov/brit combo and ull see, fully upgraded sov in 10 mins with is-2 spam"
Unrealistic combo but I have already won it even in 1.0.
"now the fact they cant retreat seem to realy bother u aswell, but abilitys are ther eto counter that. simply use fireup and sprint abilitys, they have so many..."
Sure I use them, but an axis player would hunt your injured units (more in early game) and even with your outpost, you won't be able to counter them.
"now the thing with ingenery is the same. unupgraded they die very fast. but once u buy 200 muni upgrade and u go urban doctine for flamers they are hands down best infantry in the game. i will say again: 150mp 50 mun, basicly for half the cost u get a unit that is better than 2 vet3 pios. how can u underestimate this? not only is the hp and dmg basicly like 2 vet3 pios, they also get free satchels and immunity to mines! u DONT need munis for anything other than upgrading ur sturm ingenery man... apart from maybe upgrading zis and maybe tanks, but u can just buy is-2."
You misunderstood me, I did not say that ingenys was an up unit. I answered that they were not invincible in early game.
When I say :"Urban doc is up" it does not mean that every thing in it was up, I was more talking about the KV2 and the sniper.
"just for the sniper ace, just like any sniper u cannot use it alone. but while he has no retreat, full speed in cloak and smoke are enough that he never dies if u take care of him like you would of any sniper. he also gets sticky, foo arty, what mor eu want. for 750 its not only a goodly sniper, but also vehicle disabler and unit that fires foo arty form cloak. do you realize how deadly that is? "
Ok you launch a sticky. What happen? Unless your opponent don't know about this sniper existence, he will try to find it .
But ok, it was just a proposition, just asked for better survival capacities. I know that is deadly but it is really easy to kill if soviets use it as a spotter/killer (and not only a spotter). However ok, let my proposition go down, I don't play a lot urban doc but if you'd better spend 750mp for a IS 2 (remember that you said that they get fuel easily) than a simple sniper. This is just too risky, I know that it should not be superman but it is a last game unit.
"Im also pretty high lvl it really seems to me your missing some crucial things and because of that u say sov midgame is up. i mean what can i say, we can play games and i can show you how to use wsc units?"
Ok let's play together or I play against you.
Just tell me what is your
Ranked level 2vs2 or 1vs1. Remember also that we can't see the level with soviets and it is the begining; everyone as me or you will improve. I actually have won most of my games with soviets. Even if I have returned to coh only for EF, I don't think that I have lost a lot of my wehr/PE. I have won all my axis games in EF (I have more played with Soviets, that is sure and maybe people in front of me were not always good).
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