[1.04] Balance, esp. early game for lower level players

[Akalonor]

In RL the 57 would be dead faster than the trigger was pulled.

[GodlikeDennis]

Get more mp40 volks and flamers early game.

Also, don't fight coms. As fun as the game seems against them, it is infinitely better against an intelligent opponent. Even if you aren't a fan of the competitive automatch, try finding a basic match against someone of similar low level who you have fun against, add them to friends and play some rematches. Or get some friends to buy the game and play some casual games.

Several years ago I thought that versing coms was fun but it doesn't compare to humans. Playing with people is just so much better.

[Akalonor]

I get killed easily when I go against Humans...In ANY game I play.

[hgghg4]

I find the AI is more challenging then most human players.... that says a lot O_o

[Paciat]

I find the AI is more challenging then most human players.... that says a lot O_o

You probably mean a hard AI that gets extra resources and then spams, spams, caps and spams.

[GodlikeDennis]

I get killed easily when I go against Humans...In ANY game I play.

Keep playing. That's why i suggest you play until you find someone of equal skill and add them to friends. I guarantee that a casual game between friends, even unskilled ones is more fun than against coms. This is especially true when playing over ts when you can laugh and joke about. Hell, even playing WITH friends against coms would be more fun than playing alone against that unfeeling cold bastard. 

Plus, playing against people you will actually get better eventually rather than play the same tired gameplay against an incredibly stupid enemy with perfect map awareness. It opens up a whole new level of strategies that can actually catch a person unawares, which can provide a massive high when you pull it off.

I respect that you probably don't have much time for all these strategies and you quite enjoy playing against coms but I still seriously recommend finding someone of comparable ability and playing against them.

[Akalonor]

Yeah,  I do badly  on every map but Lyon (That map is my defensive element)
I have played a few against players And they are relatively enjoyable, since you can ask someone to capture a point and they dont send their whole army like Computer player.

[bavbav]

havent check here for couple of weeks, seen responses to my post....

i dont understand. why would you not want to get better?

its really confusing what u guys say

for me, the game is balanced the moment u can go and say, damn i lost because i played bad, i should play better

this can never happen if u balance around low lvl players. they will be happy, but those who can get better, will stop playing because its not fun if its imbalanced

so if it balanced around top lvl of play, nobody can blame the game for sucking, the game is then perfect. in that case the only fault is onto players who refuse to learn

theres is no other way to do it and yes i can understand it sucks to put lot of time into learning a game

the only other solution i think could be done is to basicly make 2 diffrent versions, and players could choose what the like to play. you know like beginner ladder and normal ladder in automatch for example. but i dont know is it worth it? promoting lazyness that is..... it just simply doesnt matter, if someone want to compstomp they can do it either way.

i mean this board is a testament to diffrent players all screaming for balance the way they want it. how can you make them all happy? impossible. there cant be 100 versions of the game, only one. so it should be the one which makes most sense, where players are to blame for losing themselves and not the game

[SavageWorld]

I would agree that the Russian has an early game advantage. This is not only true for low level players. I think that they can get to many unit early on in the game.

The russians start with a 300 manpower advantage over WM to compensate for WMs 120 manpower starting unit, in addition Russias Tier 1 is 120 manpower cheaper. This means that Russia has a lot more unit early game so they can often outcap and push the Wm player.

I think that the game would be more balanced early game if Russias tier 1 had a cost of 200 manpower and they only startet with 700 manpower (50 less than now.)

[vietlord]

like US russia are on the offensive... werhm is slow starting but  one bunker going medic with mg save a crucial point ... put volk near, and defensive doctrine if needed

bike are also really good

PE is harded to use, xp-pg is necessary to take the best with a red blob ... the scortched earth trap is good to prevent light caping (ia throws halved unit for caping every none defended blob)

my little pb is the end game with pe against tank spam