Just Found Out About The Mod.

[HaroldSax]

All I can say is thank you to the team. A couple of buddies and I have been raving about how awesome it would be to play as the Russians and storm in on Eastern Front maps. This is truly going to be a wonderful thing for Company of Heroes and will get us firing our CoH's all over again for months to come.

I'm very excited to see this mod come to light and if there is any way I can help advertise the mod, please let me know.

Awesome work on the video too!

[ford_prefect]

All I can say is thank you to the team. A couple of buddies and I have been raving about how awesome it would be to play as the Russians and storm in on Eastern Front maps. This is truly going to be a wonderful thing for Company of Heroes and will get us firing our CoH's all over again for months to come.

I'm very excited to see this mod come to light and if there is any way I can help advertise the mod, please let me know.

Awesome work on the video too!

I knew about this mod forever but I threw it into the back of my mind and completely forgot about it. Until my friend got the game and he asked for me to look for a GOOD mod.
I remembered this mod and signed up   

[HaroldSax]

Well it's good to see a good mod coming up for this game, it really deserves it.

[ford_prefect]

Well it's good to see a good mod coming up for this game, it really deserves it.

It rely NEEDS it

[Loupblanc]

 - I like the new models, the new units, the new spec
 doctrine trees (strategies)... ...
 I really like that they're ADDED to regular COH, in that
 they don't try to change 'vanilla' COH. Tons of other mods
 change everything. While nice, those never become main
 stream, and, this might MIGHT allow EF to become official?
  One can hope.
 - The one thing I don't like... REALLY don't like.
 Is how teching works. It SEEMS way too easy to tech
 rapidly. Making the T34 useless, if I can make IS2
 directly, no?

 I haven't tried the BETA, but I strongly feel teching is
 waayy too easy.

[BurroDiablo]

So, the Panzer IV is useless because people can build Panthers? The IS-2 requires all 3 main buildings before it can be constructed. If you Tech quickly (i.e, you build a Barracks first and then a Tank Hall, skipping the Support Barracks), you don't get access to it...

[Voop_Bakon]

One can hope.
 - The one thing I don't like... REALLY don't like.
 Is how teching works. It SEEMS way too easy to tech
 rapidly. Making the T34 useless, if I can make IS2
 directly, no?

To build the T-34, you need only the tank hall and either Mustering Tent/Support Barracks. However to get IS-2, you need all three. we don't know strengths and weaknesses or even costs of the tanks at this point either, so it seems like the devs know what they are doing.

Here is how the tiers work.

Btw devs, could you somehow show this in the guide or even add the info in my thread to the FAQ, its annoying to find my thread every time I forget how its divided

EDIT: ninja'd by dev

[Loupblanc]

 I know EXACTLY how the tiers work
 And, yea, I DO NOT BOTHER with the Pz4.
 I only make Panthers and StuG. If I need anti-infantry
 work I 'll use the Pz4/37. But never, never, never, ever
 would I bother with the Pz4/75 unless I have to.

 I know I need 3 buildings to make IS2. But why in hell
 would I bother with T34/76, upgrade to T34/85...

 if I can buy 1 little extra inexpensive building
 (surely of equivalent cost to the T34/85 conversion)
 if I can skip all that and go straight to the yummy IS2?
 
 Which is AT/AI/HT hybrid (like Tiger)... I mean, WTF

 I'd like to know what is the advantage of SU85 over
 T34/85, too? (cost?)
 

[BurroDiablo]

If you plan to build nothing but IS-2's then good for you. T-34's are there so people have quick access to armour... you can build 2 T-34's to the price of 1 IS-2 and you could probably build 2 T-34's in the same time it takes to build an IS-2. IS-2's also have a massive pop cap (12 in the current build) so unless you have an army entirely manned by conscripts, you're not likely to get many on the battlefield, T-34's spread around the fire-power a bit. SU-85's have better penetration (I think) and longer range than T-34/85's. Also, as with all Self Propelled guns, it is hard to flank because it turns to follow its target.

[ford_prefect]

If you plan to build nothing but IS-2's then good for you. T-34's are there so people have quick access to armour... you can build 2 T-34's to the price of 1 IS-2 and you could probably build 2 T-34's in the same time it takes to build an IS-2. IS-2's also have a massive pop cap (12 in the current build) so unless you have an army entirely manned by conscripts, you're not likely to get many on the battlefield, T-34's spread around the fire-power a bit. SU-85's have better penetration (I think) and longer range than T-34/85's. Also, as with all Self Propelled guns, it is hard to flank because it turns to follow its target.

yes................a entire army run by conscripts Muhahaha. I feel like Stalin right now

[BurroDiablo]

Strelky need love too

[Loupblanc]

 : 12 pop isn't massive. Not by a long shot.
 : You guys should make AOE repair trucks Like in
 Codename panzers
 : Does the IS2 function like a no-limit Pershing tank?
 And what is it's HE ability? At 122mm please tell me
 that it's deadlier than, say, the Panzer4's HE blast?
 : If IS2 is hybrid (like Pershing), please. PLEASE explain
 to me why I'd want anything than an army of them +
 conscripts for capping?

 - double cost?
 Sounds like T34 has 300 and IS2 has 600 (Panther) costs.
 I'd still prefer to have IS2 over T34/76 though.
 
 : Saying SU85 has limitations (Hard to flank with)
 does NOT give me reasons to buy it
 
 : If the difference in cost between T34/85 upgrade
 and extra building (thus reaching magical T3). Why
 in HELL would I want to bother with T34?

 Might want to bring IS2 to 14 pop. It doesn't have
 limitation in number (like Tiger) and while it is equal to
 the panther, it *IS* more well-rounded.

 (Better side armor, better anti-infantry/building),
 Better HE capability WHILE having better or equal anti-
 tank capabilities

 14 pop it is. It's like a (for balance sake) a crappy
 Pershing, not an uber M10 (Like the Panther is)

[ford_prefect]

12 pop is a lot
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Strelky need love too

ah indeed they do that gives me a though...............thanks Burro!

[Loupblanc]

 12 pop is NOT a lot.
 
 Churchill take 14-18 pop. They have armor but weak gun.
 IS2 has same armor, but major gun. And less pop.
 And is non-doctrine. And is a heavy crusher.
 And...
 
 No, 12 pop is NOT a lot.

 Tiger has only 14 but it's unique.

[ford_prefect]

 12 pop is NOT a lot.
 
 Churchill take 14-18 pop. They have armor but weak gun.
 IS2 has same armor, but major gun. And less pop.
 And is non-doctrine. And is a heavy crusher.
 And...
 
 No, 12 pop is NOT a lot.

 Tiger has only 14 but it's unique.

well if your playing a 1v1 map it is