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Offline SavageWorld

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Uncrew weapons
« on: November 23, 2009, 12:03:20 AM »
I know that it is not possible for the Russians to capture weapons, theirfor it might be too forgiveing to lose a mg or a nebelwerfer as WM.
Theirfore it should be possible for the Russians to focus fire on an uncrew gun and destroy it that way.

Due to PE's high reinforcment cost it is expensive for them to capture AT guns so their tanks and shreks can be order to attack them, so can any other faction, and theirfor it should be possible for russians army too.

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 04:37:32 AM »
Have you ever heard of the Focus Fire tab?


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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 05:31:18 PM »
Heck usually a wehr player wont give you the chance to steal his equipment. I know I arty my AT guns if I cant get to it before my opponent does. But yah, you can always just manually tell them to attack it, so that works 

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 07:01:07 PM »
Heck usually a wehr player wont give you the chance to steal his equipment. I know I arty my AT guns if I cant get to it before my opponent does. But yah, you can always just manually tell them to attack it, so that works

If the opponent can't take your equipment, it would be much better for you to keep it around until you get a chance to take it back.

Have you ever heard of the Focus Fire tab?

As you can't get new factions to recrew weapon you might not be able to focus fire on a uncrew weapon. I am not sure if this is the case, so that is why I ask.

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 11:42:14 PM »
If the opponent can't take your equipment, it would be much better for you to keep it around until you get a chance to take it back.

Not always an option. If I can't get it back i.e. they set up and MG covering it or he is already much closer, then arty is the way to go. However, if I can get there first or he cant prevent me from doing so, i go ahead and grab it.

Back on topic, well hopefully the Russians can manually kill it, or perhaps give strelky an ability to booby trap/dismantle uncrewed weapons?

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 01:12:57 AM »

 ! HEY!
 Awesome idea...
 
 Or, well, if don't want useless soviet AT corpses piling up...
 Can't we make soviet AT corpses (the gun) vanish after it's
 crew is dead? I doubt they can be 'dismantled' but it's worth
 looking into :)
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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2009, 09:34:18 PM »
Sure u can have troops with zookas or tanks focus fire.  But i think it would be nice to have just regular consctipts be able to attack it with regular guns.

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2009, 06:45:38 AM »

 Or engineers be able to eat it for extra munitions (like
 Wehr do). Either way, it'd be nice if could :
  : Find a way to destroy old useless AT gun corpses
 (No one can recrew them anyhow)
  : And offer units ways to get off the map (for pop recoup)
 When they're not desired anymore (dying T34/76 after the
 upgrade to /85, infantry, etc) Like retreat, except you can't
 get the unit back? Even if don't get money for units back,
 at least the enemy doesn't get XP out of them, and
 you don't need to artillery your own troops instead of
 the enemy.
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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 06:44:50 PM »

 Or engineers be able to eat it for extra munitions (like
 Wehr do). Either way, it'd be nice if could :
  : Find a way to destroy old useless AT gun corpses
 (No one can recrew them anyhow)
  : And offer units ways to get off the map (for pop recoup)
 When they're not desired anymore (dying T34/76 after the
 upgrade to /85, infantry, etc) Like retreat, except you can't
 get the unit back? Even if don't get money for units back,
 at least the enemy doesn't get XP out of them, and
 you don't need to artillery your own troops instead of
 the enemy.


Loup I think a more accurate portrayal of Soviet strategy would be to throw outdated and excess units at the enemy...wave after wave of them!

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 07:30:24 PM »

 Yea, I know. Zergs!
 But, still, what's to prevent the recycling of old units?
 I HATE using artillery on my OWN units :p

 But I was mostly referring to AT gun corpses that I can't
 recrew. If I were to make 10 over the course of a game and
 them all dying in my base, it'll make it cluttered in a hurry!

 Destroy dead AT guns at point of death, please, if they
 can'T be recrewed!
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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 08:24:12 PM »
For once I agree with Loup. If I cant have my AT gun back, I sure as hell don't want my opponent to have them. I just say have a way to salvage or dismantle them using your ingenery

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 11:22:47 PM »
Destroy dead AT guns at point of death, please, if they
 can'T be recrewed!
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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 11:06:41 AM »

 Voop_Bakon : Meh. For once? Lol.
 
 Well, specifically... you can't get your own AT guns back.
 OTHER GUY Can't have your AT guns back either. And you
 most likely can't eat them for munitions either... I say they
 ought just vanish like dead soldier corpses. I'm talking dead
 Hv Mortar, Sv AT guns.
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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2009, 03:25:48 PM »
Mortar is fine, but an AT gun is a big object and just seeing it disappear would just look like a bad glitch, especially to those who find the mod after release and dont come here to read about it.

I stand behind my idea that ingenery should be able to break it down. Maybe have mechanics break it down, but also get resources?

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Re: Uncrew weapons
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »
Answering the first post, there a lot of way to destroy AT or something.

- You can use attack ground  (tanks or something can do it)

- The M1938 Heavy Mortar
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The heavy 120mm mortar packs quite a punch. It has a long reload time and big scatter radius, but also a wide range and big boom. Be sure to protect them carefully though from those German raiding units.


- The ML-20 Firebase
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"This heavy 120 mm gun-howitzer can lay down a thunderstorm of steel. It is not very accurate, but fires a lot of shells in a single salvo. This makes it perfect for area bombardment. "

- Sharpshooter Team
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They cannot cloak, but can ambush while in cover, and observe a wider area of view when not moving. Once permission is granted, sharpshooters can call down precision artillery strikes.

- Commander
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ability to call-in light artillery strikes and lead heroic charges, the Germans do not stand a chance. I can even spy on those Germans with my binoculars. Ha ha, sneaky.

I answered the question correctly or I read wrong?  ???
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 04:03:00 PM by Michael Wittman »