Finns - Captured T34 hehe

[Loupblanc]

The Finns called the T-34 Sotka after the Common Goldeneye, a sea duck, because the side silhouette of the tank resembles a swimming waterfowl (as related in the memoirs of Finnish tank ace Lauri Heino). The T-34-85 was called pitkäputkinen Sotka, 'long-barreled Sotka'.
 
 Cuts down on Making new models, and would be quite
 interesting to add to the OstHeer as a call-in
 I'd rather they were limited call-once only, though.
 Perhaps a battlegroup of 2 ?

 I like the names

[ford_prefect]

I like how on a RO map they have a few captured t-34's their a bitch for the Russians

[Loupblanc]

 Yea. Iron Cross has Axis Shermans, Allied Panther.
 MrScruffs made Soviet Shermans too.
 
 Don't see it as hard to make Finnish T34s

[Ryousan]

I was proposing a captured tank battlegroup. With two T-34/76 and one IS-2





But it seems like it was not a very welcome idea

[Loupblanc]

 I'd prefer the captured tanks to be finnish Kill 2 birds
 with one stone. If those are captured-by-germans, you
 hurt inclusion of finnish chance
 
  2x T34+IS2? Too strong for a call-in battlegroup.
  A once-only 2x T34(85?) call-in, though, I like. They
  being 76 or 85 would depend on an earlier upgrade,
  and how soon they are called-in.

 But IS2? I like, but... ah, naaaah
 Unless it'd replace that Doctrine's King Tiger equivalent
 or something. And would be call once only for sure.

[Ryousan]

I get your point, anyway, finnish or german captured T-34s are cool

The T-34 x2 call in I like too, and the the main upgrade could be made via individual upgrade (more expensive in ammo though). But once per battle...there were enough of them available for the germans and (as I said before somewhere) the Germans even captured a T-34 factory. It was not a so rare sight and was used in both the Waffen-SS and in the Wehrmacht

[BurroDiablo]

IS-2's were rarely captured, I don't think I've ever heard of one be used against Soviet forces. That particular one reads 'Destined for OKW', so it was probably heading to Kummersdorf for testing.

I think we'd rather use unique tanks for the Ostheer rather than recycling

[Venoxxis]

I think we'd rather use unique tanks for the Ostheer rather than recycling

yes thats the point, we want to see something new.

[Loupblanc]

 Oh! Well, if they were common (T34's) then perhaps put
 a cap on them (2) but make them re-callable? (Like the 2
 Callioppe or something).
 
  Thanks Ryousan

 BurroDiablo : Hehe, thanks. Yea, eh. I'm ok with medium-
 normal units being captured, but not, say, an allied-painted
 King Tiger IS2 ... with axis color would FOR SURE be a
 1-time only affair. While the T34's could be recallable, but
 no way do I want to see 30x Axis T34's running around

  New models? Ah, cmon Finnish T34s would be soooo
 yummy Plueeeeze?
 Making it a call-in or a reward unit vs Finnish tank? (Normal)
 I'll automatically say yes to just about anything that gives
 Finns a chance to be in OstHeer

  It's a nice proposal, though, no?

[Ryousan]

Why everyone hates the Axis IS-2 ?

You are welcome, Im all for captured T-34s

[luz777]

Im all for captured Finnish T-34's, but if the mod team is intent on making new models, add it as a reward unit, replacing the BT-42, if we go that far with Finns (I doubt it though).

If the devs really wanted a new model they could alter the T-34 abit, make it look abit more battle worn and add some camouflage and stuff to it etc. Like the missing side skirts from the one in the picture above

Cheers

[S1lv3rWolf]

obviously captured tanks wouldn't be as unique as one thinks, a simple retexture and it would "look like new".

but no-one ever said there wasn't uniqueness in field modifications, so why not a Flakpanzer T-34(r)? it would definatly be more unique than a simple Captured T-34 Tank, and would give the Ostheer their own "unique" version of the Wirbelwind. It would just be as unique as say...the Bergetiger.

[Venoxxis]

another good idea.
caputerd tanks should be involed in this game,
at least in the campain, a pritty dirty t-34 with a
finnish flag on its turret would fit in pritty good.

but dont take it in the ostheer, it would just take another
sensefull place.

[Voop_Bakon]

obviously captured tanks wouldn't be as unique as one thinks, a simple retexture and it would "look like new".

but no-one ever said there wasn't uniqueness in field modifications, so why not a Flakpanzer T-34(r)? it would definatly be more unique than a simple Captured T-34 Tank, and would give the Ostheer their own "unique" version of the Wirbelwind. It would just be as unique as say...the Bergetiger.

That is something I would like to see in some form of or another. Either in the campaign or as a captured Ostheer unit

[Flippis]

Finns called both versions of T-34's as Sotka. Pitkäputkinen Sotka is only the literal term which was hardly ever used outside paper reports... In combat they were all called as Sotka since it made no difference to the finns which ones they were, both were nasty...

Finns in COH, as a doctrine or something for ostheer? In deep russia? Are you people mad?? Besides, finns only captured 7 T-34/85's and only a couple of them were actually used against their former owners. Makes no sense give them those.

Most T-34's captured by the finns also had modifications done to them, mainly cosmetical.