Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys

[hgghg4]

???Question for someone why cant the tiger have the same range and power as the 88 when its the same bloody thing except on tracks?
OB3R

Balance!

[ScreamingStukas]

You know what...

I actually take back having Tigers being produced in factories, even with a limit. I kinda prefer them to be call-ins given there severely limited numbers in reality and their absence from the core of the army, normal Wehrmacht panzer divisions didn't have any. I see doctrinal call-ins as like independent/elite reserves that are to support the regular army (i.e. armed Waffen SS and independent Heavy Panzer Battalions), it is a role the Tiger obviously had and I actually think it should keep it in the Ostheer.

I know it'll be similar to the Wehrmacht method given it's a call-in, but the Ostheer Tiger I could be a Tiger belong to the SS, with benefits like perhaps extended view on all sides and ability to command tanks as I had demonstrated in my Ostheer concept.

[Akalonor]

I wouldn't call it "Severly" limited , I'd say relatively rare.

[SauerKRAUT]

It was essentially what I like to call an "OH SHIT!" weapon. When Russians were threatening to overwhelm a sector, they call in the tiger company to fix that little "problem." Call in makes sense, like the PE panthers but much cheaper than the nerfed god forsaken wehrmacht tiger but defiantly not doctrinally constrained.

[ford_prefect]

I've always called it the "pest infestation company"  whenever my friends were feeling all high and mighty with some Shermans I just call in the pest infestation company

[Gen. Patton]

that would be a good idea nut the tigers should either have engine damage oy tracks destroyed because the tigers made later on in the war had lots of problems because of sabotage

[comrade2012]

The reason I think that the Tiger should be a doctrine unit is because the Germans didnt make that many of them, so it wouldnt have been easlily accessable.

However, I do think that whichever doctrine gets to call it in should be able to call in more than one, like maybe two or three.

[Paciat]

The reason I think that the Tiger should be a doctrine unit is because the Germans didnt make that many of them, so it wouldnt have been easlily accessable.

However, I do think that whichever doctrine gets to call it in should be able to call in more than one, like maybe two or three.

1350 Tigers. Thats as much as MarderIII or StugIV. Twice as more as all stubby PzIV. Much more than Ostwinds and Bergetigers.

Nobody said that it will be a spammable unit. Some say that there should be a limit of Tigers on the field, others say that it should be just more expensive (750-900MP/180-200Fuel).

There will also be a longer (more expensive) teching up to get a Tiger than to get a Soviet IS-2.

Finnaly youll build youre Tigers with 0 vet. No vet 3 call-ins will be possible.

[vietlord]

pz4 = 6000 made...

except that I agree with you Paciat
2 tigers limit seems good

[Cranialwizard]

I'm saying that would be a good idea, but like Paciat, make it a limit. I'm thinking maybe 3 max?

[comrade2012]

Yea, the Germans made 1,354 Tigers, and like 6,000 Panthers. I dont know exactly how many Panzer IV's were made, but I know that it was more than Tigers. The Panzer IV came out earlier, and it was cheaper. 1,354 may sound like a big number, but it really isnt, because that was over the entire war. Many were destroyed or abandoned.

[wordsmith]

To put a max.limit to Tiger would have sense only if the Tiger would be doctrinal unit. In whole CoH only doctrinal units have max.limit. Units produced from factories don't, except British Lieutenant, Captain and Command Cromwell.

The better would be don't put a max.limit but to make it less available. For example - as I suggest in my concept:

- Tiger has "Progressive popcap" attribute, it means that first Tiger build has 14 popcap, next would have 16 and next 18 and so on representing the fact that Tiger was state of the art technology and it required high prestige to obtain more of them. If some Tiger is destroyed this Popcap will decrease too so the popcap limit could be then like this:
1 Tiger  14
2 Tigers 30
3 Tigers 48
4 Tigers 68
5 Tigers 90

[Akalonor]

I like wordsmith's idea, but maybe lower it a bit.

[comrade2012]

I get this feeling that if we didnt put a cap on Tigers, that AI's would make a lot of them. think about it, a bunch of Tigers would be unstopable!

It would be cool if you were the guy with all the Tigers, but when your the guy facing it, then your all of a sudden not be liking it as much.

[Akalonor]

Tigers can be killed by flanking, almost easily.