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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2010, 09:39:07 PM »
I think it's alright to have a non-doctrinal tiger for the Ostheer but then the Blitz tiger absolutely MUST be changed into the ace in that case. Otherwise there is simply no good reason to go Blitz. I think the Ostheer T4 tank roster should be made up of panzer 3, panther and tiger. Panzer 3 being quite good against infantry and marginal against tanks, panther being the AT specialist and tiger being the heavy generalist tank.



no reason for blitz? theres not only tiger but stormtroopers stuh also, or those grenades...

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2010, 11:47:11 PM »
How can they build a big tiger like that in a little bunker like that?
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #137 on: July 01, 2010, 08:48:20 AM »
no reason for blitz? theres not only tiger but stormtroopers stuh also, or those grenades...

Stuh is crap, nades are gimmicky and stormtroopers I have already stated is all that's left. Truly the only reason to go blitz is to get them and nothing else. That's why the old ace should be brought back and put in blitz if the Ostheer's getting tigers.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #138 on: July 01, 2010, 11:57:46 AM »
theres still a reason to pick up a blitz tactic because its a wehr doctrine not ostheer, so different units tanks abilities i mean when you have wehr then you cant build tiger from factory so your only way is to go ostheer (if will have implemented the buildable tiger) but then you will not have wehr units under comand so theres no reason to not pick a blitz when you play wehr cause its wehr not ostheer... ::) hope you know what i mean

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #139 on: July 01, 2010, 12:21:01 PM »
I understand what you mean but if you want to use a tiger you may as well go Ostheer and get the full benefit of one of those doctrines. Blitz is already a pretty terrible doctrine with the only attraction coming from stoms and the tiger. Take away the tiger and only storms remain. You may as well go defensive or terror so as to not limit yourself in a competitive game. You would only gain 1 useful ability as blitz but would gain 6 as the other doctrines.

As I said, I'm not against making the Tiger non-doctrinal for the Ostheer but the Blitz tiger must be replaced with the old ace from the pre-OF terror doctrine. Most players would probably prefer this anyway, especially the GR crowd who loved the ace.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #140 on: July 01, 2010, 12:28:35 PM »
but its just your view i prefer wehr doctrines like this:
1. Blitz
2. Terror
3. Defense
and also when you have veted tanks on lvl 3 then its not the same tiger as you should build in factory as vet lvl 0 (dont know what veterancy system will ostheer use)

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #141 on: July 01, 2010, 12:46:26 PM »
i can't really see why the Tiger shouldent be included in the ostheer. The Tiger is the most famous tank from ww2 imo. would be a shame to leave it, and not include it into the Ostheers weaponry

im gonna wait and see how it turns out, when the ostheer is revealed. Theres a pretty good mix of ideas for the devs to work with in here so far, keep up.

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2010, 05:16:28 PM »
but its just your view i prefer wehr doctrines like this:
1. Blitz
2. Terror
3. Defense
and also when you have veted tanks on lvl 3 then its not the same tiger as you should build in factory as vet lvl 0 (dont know what veterancy system will ostheer use)
Actually it's general consensus that Blitz is the worst of the 3 wehrmacht doctrines, only worth going because stormies are your only stopgap AT before sturm armoury if you go T1-T3 or to abuse assault grenades early on.

Say the Soviets were able to build the exact ranger unit out of their barracks, sure makes infantry doctrine less appealing now doesn't it? And that's with a large amount of other useful powers. I don't see why you would be reluctant to change the tiger with the tiger ace anyway, the ace is much better and Blitz certainly needs the buff. It also needs a way to spend munitions but this is probably beyond the goals of the EF devs.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #143 on: July 01, 2010, 06:02:41 PM »
you'll need mechanized repair units at least...Schwere-Panzer Abteilungen (Heavy Panzer Battalions) never operated without them, since Tigers kept breaking down  ;D

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #144 on: July 01, 2010, 06:20:05 PM »
you'll need mechanized repair units at least...Schwere-Panzer Abteilungen (Heavy Panzer Battalions) never operated without them, since Tigers kept breaking down  ;D

About the schweren Heeres-Panzerabteilung:
There is one more point you forget; Tiger operated always in groups!
My wish for the Ostheer would be solution with min. of 2 Tigers on the battlefield. Okay...this Tiger had to be weaker then the Wehrmacht Tiger, but Ostheer needs this SYMBOL! ( Tiger - designed as T-34 counter ) on the battlefield.
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #145 on: July 01, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »
I don't see why you would be reluctant to change the tiger with the tiger ace anyway, the ace is much better and Blitz certainly needs the buff. It also needs a way to spend munitions but this is probably beyond the goals of the EF devs.
Just throw blitz nades with MP40 volks. Works well vs British.
The tank doctrines of OF fractions have no abilities to spend their ammo on. Wehrmacht is the most ammo consuming fraction of them all. Just make MP44/shreck storms.

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #146 on: July 01, 2010, 07:35:25 PM »
you'll need mechanized repair units at least...Schwere-Panzer Abteilungen (Heavy Panzer Battalions) never operated without them, since Tigers kept breaking down  ;D

About the schweren Heeres-Panzerabteilung:
There is one more point you forget; Tiger operated always in groups!
My wish for the Ostheer would be solution with min. of 2 Tigers on the battlefield. Okay...this Tiger had to be weaker then the Wehrmacht Tiger, but Ostheer needs this SYMBOL! ( Tiger - designed as T-34 counter ) on the battlefield.

+1 I would love to see a Tiger group, with 2 or even 3 tigers. It would be costly, but terribly cool!!
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2010, 08:13:20 PM »
+1 I would love to see a Tiger group, with 2 or even 3 tigers. It would be costly, but terribly cool!!
Or a T-34 battlehorde. 6 or even 8 T-34.
It would be costly, but terribly cool!!

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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2010, 10:39:34 PM »
yes, i use the officer
he is great
works well when people try to flank you...(force retreat...)
i also like blitz doc cause of stuh(blobkiller) and blitkrieg assault(rapes enemy tanks)
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Re: Tiger tanks being built out of Factorys
« Reply #149 on: July 01, 2010, 11:29:12 PM »
Paciat, you always ruin peoples fun >:(
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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