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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 08:10:00 PM »
Goliath was invented after Kursk battle...

No, it was invented During the kursk battle.

Ok- stop going off topic.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 08:12:51 PM »
Soviet troops are easily suppressed and have no real counter to a nice MG42 other than  a mortar.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 08:13:37 PM »
And the sniper.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 08:28:43 PM »
True but a sniper can be suppressed AND hunted by a motorcycle. It's risky but can work.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 08:41:32 PM »
Not when supported by people. Just throw some constipats and make the mg hurt them and then out the sniper at the side.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2010, 04:41:20 PM »
Swarm (Platoon, or company) of any army troops can be stopped with full, or part unfolded barbed wire with MGs, or squad of troops + mortar rapid fire with flank armor attack  ... then, escalate full front counterattack.
Victory must be rapid, it is for time of battle ... vulnerability, that you can not give at risk. This kind of attack can be not be main dirrection of enemy charge. Be ready, that can be recon with combat operation & artillery barrage first before attack of main forces. Hide AT guns & retreat the tank platoons to reserve, when it might be usefull & critically needed.

It's for anti-swarm defence, not combat maneuvering.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2010, 09:02:03 PM »
Yea, but who will have the time and resources to do that?
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2010, 10:11:48 PM »
Later in game Ostwinds are quite effective VS Inf spams.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2010, 10:16:53 PM »
Ostward:

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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2010, 02:32:48 PM »
When I play as PE it depends on what doctrine I pick.

If I go TD I take T1 and increase squad size and pump out grens with G43 to rape soviet hordes. I then usually go staight to T4 to get light AT half track and Panzer IV to deal with soviet blobs. Usually I get enough CP to go straight for hetzers (which I do) but I will go back and build T2 to get shreks later on or if the opponent is t34 rushing.
If I go with Luftwaffe then I'll go with T1 to get increase squad size and pump out grens with G43 as above but I'll either go and build T2 or T3 to get either shreks or maraderIII. going down the command tree I'll head straigh for Whirbelwinds to deal with soviet blobs.
If I go with SE then as before I go with simmilar strategy as both doctrines above: going with T1 for increase squad size, then getting some anti tank from wither T2 or T3 and after that I try to go for T4 quickly to get out panzer IV. For me this doctrine is a bit trickier against the soviets than the other two.

Overall I pretty much try to get either Panzer IV or Whirblewinds quickly because I find that too oftenly that AT rifle squads come out around the same time as PE armoured cars which get raped by AT squads. Plus G43's are so much win!

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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2010, 04:17:01 AM »
I don't like getting G43s anymore. And 4 man squads still only get two of them. MP44s is much more effective on these squads usually.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2010, 06:50:44 AM »
I don't like getting G43s anymore. And 4 man squads still only get two of them. MP44s is much more effective on these squads usually.
Finally someone noticed that G43 shouldnt be the main PE force. Their suppresive fire is usefull when you want to finish off a retreating squad, but thats it.
MP44 will slauther any infantry including Guards, they can run near an Outpost and kill faster than Soviets reinforce, their good counters (unlike G43) to AT rifle squads, sharpshooters, mortars and all other Soviet infantry exept PPSH Strelky.
G43 need offensive vet to be efective while MP44 slowly heal themselves with defensive vet.
Id rather place 3 flame mines with my shimm than get a G43.
Also the T1, T4 strat requires a lot of ammo.

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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2010, 08:01:20 AM »
I don't use more than one squad with G43, because of that. They aren't for those kind of jobs, that's why we can get PE w/MP44.
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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2010, 08:18:07 AM »
MP44 are great but the extra 25 munitions is a lot in the earlyish game where I want to give as much extra firepower to all of my panzergrenadiers.

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Re: How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2010, 07:41:13 PM »
I always try to have at the very least two squads with G43, they are much better for
killing garrisoned units, and right through the game they are effective as long as you keep them behind the other squads.
Mp44's are good, especially when used in conjunction with the G43's suppressive fire ability.
But if I had to choose between the two I would go G43.