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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2010, 07:03:07 PM »
Ouuhh yeah.. finally the brits will be playable for me  ;D Can't wait to play with RMC + a mate choosing the normal RC and celebrate a little D-Day revival match with them (Marine Commandos + Glider Guys  ;D)
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The changes that are shown in this list will be done. That means, the doctrines still the same only the normal units were changed(plus vet stacking, buffed speed); you can play by yourself RMC + Commandos any day :).

Good.. After explaining it a dozen times to all of us, I still don't get it, but doesn't matter. I'll see how it works when the patch is out. By the way: When does it come? And I don't want any "when it's done" please.

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Then do them by yourself. Anyway this is OT.

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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2010, 07:22:11 PM »
If you want to use RMC you need to go to reward section and activate RMC. Then go to the match and select brits as usual. After the loading screen you will see the difference.

The release date is still unknown due to the balance part.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2010, 07:29:34 PM »
Okay thank you. Now I got it.  ;D

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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2010, 08:17:03 PM »
Balance wise, you won't really need the bren carrier early on because
a)Troops move at normal speed and therefore flanking is quite legit
b) Recon squad is no longer a handicaped squad compared to other tommies
c)You get access to alot of sexy new jeeps and the bren carrier which can be filled with SAS for some nice flanking and raiding, only slightly later at more appropriate time.
d)You can get engineers with normal move and piats from the 'get go' to also help against early cars etc.

SAS are not going to be a spamable unit to replace commandos. They're just there to help promote the use of small fast moving flanking groups. The whole SAS command is effectively the Tier2 missing from the original brits. Also a useful assault unit if you don't go for commandos.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2010, 08:44:47 PM »
Somehow I feel that the new brits will be overpowerd.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2010, 09:21:11 PM »
Somehow I feel that the new brits will be overpowerd.
I feel the same about Ostheer, but I'm sure that Reborn guys will lead the new brits to a good balance.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2010, 09:47:27 PM »
A little unfair if they get the luxury guns with 100-round drums when they come out. :P.

I would like that to be an upgrade actually from M1A1 to the M1928-style model, with better accuracy at long range and a 50 round-drum. But lets save the Royal Marine upgrades till later.
Actually, the M1A1 would be the upgrade. The M1928 was the earlier model and had a few problems (like Drum magazine jamming) That is also why the M1A1 isn't compatible with a drum magazine, only strick magazines.
And the design for the M1A1 a whole was more refined, like better sights.

Anyway, how do you propose to release this as part of 1.30 when you can't finish the Ostheer?
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2010, 10:08:02 PM »
A little unfair if they get the luxury guns with 100-round drums when they come out. :P.

I would like that to be an upgrade actually from M1A1 to the M1928-style model, with better accuracy at long range and a 50 round-drum. But lets save the Royal Marine upgrades till later.
Actually, the M1A1 would be the upgrade. The M1928 was the earlier model and had a few problems (like Drum magazine jamming) That is also why the M1A1 isn't compatible with a drum magazine, only strick magazines.
And the design for the M1A1 a whole was more refined, like better sights.

Anyway, how do you propose to release this as part of 1.30 when you can't finish the Ostheer?
I don't know what this has to do with ostheer.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2010, 10:41:38 PM »
A little unfair if they get the luxury guns with 100-round drums when they come out. :P.

I would like that to be an upgrade actually from M1A1 to the M1928-style model, with better accuracy at long range and a 50 round-drum. But lets save the Royal Marine upgrades till later.
Actually, the M1A1 would be the upgrade. The M1928 was the earlier model and had a few problems (like Drum magazine jamming) That is also why the M1A1 isn't compatible with a drum magazine, only strick magazines.
And the design for the M1A1 a whole was more refined, like better sights.

Anyway, how do you propose to release this as part of 1.30 when you can't finish the Ostheer?
I don't know what this has to do with ostheer.
I thought 1.30 was going to be released on the OH's completion. So if the OH can't be released yet because of needing animators, then how will there be 1.30? That is, unless 1.30 will be just more Soviet tweaking and the British.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2010, 10:47:37 PM »
1.30 will be just more Soviet tweaking and the British.

I think, it will.

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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2010, 10:56:02 PM »
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I thought 1.30 was going to be released on the OH's completion. So if the OH can't be released yet because of needing animators, then how will there be 1.30? That is, unless 1.30 will be just more Soviet tweaking and the British.
Who told you that? Afaik, devs haven't said that Ostheer was going to be released at 1.30. Just recrewing, tweaks on soviet's balance and new brits.

There's no ETA for Ostheer, but it's most likely that will be out on 2.00 than in 1.40, let alone 1.30.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2010, 11:04:07 PM »
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Just recrewing, tweaks on soviet's balance and new brits.

'Just'...ain't you lot greedy  ::)

We're not aiming for OP Brits, just better balanced,less on the knife edge and more importantly fun to play with/against
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2010, 11:14:52 PM »
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Just recrewing, tweaks on soviet's balance and new brits.

'Just'...ain't you lot greedy  ::)

We're not aiming for OP Brits, just better balanced,less on the knife edge and more importantly fun to play with/against

Sorry, I was confused. :-[
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2010, 11:24:02 PM »
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Just recrewing, tweaks on soviet's balance and new brits.

'Just'...ain't you lot greedy  ::)

We're not aiming for OP Brits, just better balanced,less on the knife edge and more importantly fun to play with/against
Yeah, sorry about that :-[.
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Re: Who Dares, Wins!
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2010, 02:42:12 AM »
Recon Element would be cooler if the rest of the squad were equiped with Stens.

I'm just sayin'.  ;)
However the "coolest" option isnt always the most balanced... unfortunately.

tompsons and stens arent very different what made comandos OP was the fact they had 6 stens and they were not all that worse than rangers with tommy guns so it could be a fesable option