The Jagdtiger issue

[Strayker]

+1 for the idea of making Jagdtiger a reward unit for the Jagdpanther, honestly i thought it would be that way when it was introduced.

Anyway, now for the Tiger Ace i tend to disagree...it would sure make the Blitz even less more attractive. I played around patch 1.5 and back then it was quite different...you could call in 2 Tigers as Blitz and only one as Terror. So it was a hard decision to make, however i mostly went for the Blitz then. Nowadays when you could only call one-at-a-time for Blitz its a different story. I propose another solution, which already appeared in this thread earlier - make a Tiger II (King Tiger) with production turret (Henschel turret) a reward unit for the King Tiger with Porsche turret. No change in stats just a visual change same as with the Tiger 205 reward unit. And the grand-reappearance of Tiger Ace should be on the Eastern Front comrades! Yes the Ostheer should have it instead, i mean wasnt that Hauptman Voss and/or Oberst Schultz portraited as Michael Wittman? And where Michael Wittman gained his reputation...ofcourse on Eastern Front (its even said in the intro of the Tiger Ace campaing in ToV) where he started as Stug III commander and then he gained his Tiger and became a tank legend.

So lets summarize it:
- Terror can gain a powerful King Tiger with Henschel turret reward unit, which is more historically accurate (and i personally think cooler), anyways it will keep with the current concept of Terror doctrine - psychological abuse and spreading fear.
- Ostheer on the other hand can gain the great call-in Tiger, not just another ordinary Tiger I and/or buildable one, it could be the (in)famous Tiger Ace, which many players would like to see again (including me as well). Ostheer design isnt finished yet, based on what Lord Rommel stated, so i think it wouldnt be much of a problem to fit it in some doctrine. And lastly it could bring some more players to EF which would want to see Tiger Ace again, because frankly if i recall right its not in any other mod around.
- And most importantly it will keep with the EF policy of not changing vanilla factions in any (drastic) way.

So fellow comrades what do you think?

[Blackbishop]

If the ace goes to ostheer, I will choose ostheer instead of wehr-BK any day, and also will make BK less attractive .

[Strayker]

If the ace goes to ostheer, I will choose ostheer instead of wehr-BK any day, and also will make BK less attractive .

Well thats great, because many players will choose that as well, which means more players for Ostheer - more players for EF - one big win.

[Blackbishop]

I'm not too fond of making Blitzkrieg doctrine being underused . Lets hope the devs make the right decision .

[Chancellor]

Also, we don't need to add the Henschel turrent KT.  Its essentially the same unit.

If you want it instead of the lame Porsche version, just use Halftrack's model in your skinpack.
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?248022-HTs-amp-TDs-3D-Factory-new-custom-models-M5-3inch-AT-Gun [nofollow]

[Analpirat]

Yeah if your only idea is to have a KT with a different model replace the current KT then I think that idea is without merit. You think anyone apart from you cares enough whether the KT has a Henschel or a Porsche turret if it doesn't even make any difference gameplay wise? Might es well offer reward units that differ merely in the skin they use. A reward unit should imo at least differ in Performance from the unit it replaces, because if it can't do even that it's just a gimmick.

No, I think the Tiger Ace should, if at all, come back to Terror where it belongs. The only question is how that can be implemented without making Blitz (even more) unattractive.

[Venoxxis]

Yeah if your only idea is to have a KT with a different model replace the current KT then I think that idea is without merit. You think anyone apart from you cares enough whether the KT has a Henschel or a Porsche turret if it doesn't even make any difference gameplay wise?

I gotta agree with you, that a reward unit has to have some difference. So there is a clear no form me for a reward unit like that. But i gotta support chancellor about this one. He sent me his skinpack, which included the henschel-turret KT as well. First of all i didnt care about it, but than i called it in once. It looks simply kick-ass. I could upload some screens later..

[...] come back to Terror [...]

hell yea!



Regards

[cephalos]

@Venoxxis - awesome pic

[Vrachov]

indeed   

[Desert_Fox]

@Venoxxis - awesome pic

+10000 

[Venoxxis]

Thank you very much guys! I really enjoyed making it.
The return of this unit in form of the sp_black_ace will be a hype.

Get ready for the AceAct CoH community! 



best Regards

[IJoe]

I don't see, what your problem is, guys...
I mean, just download the skin, and use it to your pleasure, really.

[Venoxxis]

of course you are right, but its not about that skin. The skin would be just an addition ppl here and in the relic forums seem to like as well

Bringing a old pupular unit back is the idea of the tiger ace. With all its advantages and disadvantages over the KT.


Regards

[SublimeSnugz]

I don't see, what your problem is, guys...
I mean, just download the skin, and use it to your pleasure, really.

Skins are not compitable with EF multiplayer games

[IJoe]

I don't see, what your problem is, guys...
I mean, just download the skin, and use it to your pleasure, really.

Skins are not compitable with EF multiplayer games

You're absolutely definitely wrong here. This goes only for  wrongly inserted skins.