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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 02:49:07 AM »
Well we do already have a question:
Can anyone tell me difference between PzIV aufs H and sufs J? I read somewhere that one of them had inefficient turret traversing system.
I would like to know the answer too. ;D

My personal advice: Walter J Spielberg - Panzer IV and its variants.
Here u will find all this information.

Here a quick information about the differences:
The electrical turret traversing system was replaced by a manual system.
A new 200L fuel tank.
A new "Seitenrichtmaschine" (dont know the english term):
The new machine made it easier to turn around the turret by hand.
And one, two smaller changes in consequence of the "major changes".

I believe there were improvements to the optical systems as well.
Skirts and the use of Zimmerit were field mods not a design series.
The Pz IV J was developed to increase production more than to improve the fighting capabilities over the "H".

http://http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerkampfwagen-iv.htm#panzer4
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2011, 10:16:46 AM »
What was so special about the Stg44?
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2011, 02:34:53 PM »
Its the worlds first assault rifle. If you think about that it haves a whole new type of bullet. The führer himself was agaisnt the weapon in the beginnening but the OKW ( Ober kommando wehrmacht?)

 made it in secret because they saw its potential under the name mp44 so Hitler thought it just was a new smg. Later when he found out he also found out the great succses the mp44 had been so he renamed it to stg44 (sturmgewhr) and decided for full scale production.

Mikhaeil Kalasnikov took insperation from it and created his ak47. However mechanical and such the ak47 and stg44 are totally differant machines. The stg44 however stand ground for the future postwar G3 rifle ^^

 I think thats right? XD (taken from head!)

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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2011, 02:54:28 PM »
Mikhaeil Kalasnikov took insperation from it and created his ak47.
thats not confirmed

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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2011, 06:52:35 PM »
Mikhaeil Kalasnikov took insperation from it and created his ak47.
thats not confirmed
Well the Stg44 looks like a smaller version of the AK-47
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2011, 06:54:17 PM »
those two guns were completly different developments afaik

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2011, 07:14:17 PM »
Its only uncomfirmed beacause all we have to go on is what Kalashnikov says and he'll never admit (if he really did) that the pride and joy of the motherland was based on German designs.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2011, 07:41:29 PM »
Its not a direct copy of the german gun. In fact the way both weapons function are different except the gaspressureloader (wrong word but didnt find the right one), which was known before the Stg44 was invented. So ...

Its like saying that the Horten Go 229 was the direct predecessor of the B2. Norten did have in fact own aircrafts. A test flight of the Horten wasnt even done.

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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2011, 09:28:29 PM »
I can only speculate based on the evidence as I see it, the two ARs look somewhat similar at least on the exterior, the AK afaik was in the developement stages in '45 post war and having all these STGs lying around its kinda hard not to study their design. Of course it has parts that are of his unique design, he'd never have any credibility if he presented (more or less) a carbon copy of the STG44.
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2011, 07:23:24 AM »
Was The Stg44 useful in combat?
I think that it wasn't as good as it is in OF or EF
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2011, 07:46:27 AM »
it performed well in combat and the soldiers loved it, but it wasnt produced in any significant numbers to make a big impact

in real life it wasnt the buzzsaw that it is in COH however
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2011, 07:47:25 AM »
Was The Stg44 useful in combat?
I think that it wasn't as good as it is in OF or EF
It didnt have less recoil than Thompsons or more powerfull bullets than BREN guns. ;D It was just another smg - but with a better kick.

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The first assault rifle was the Russian Fedorov Avtomat made in 1915!!!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedorov_Avtomat

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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2011, 12:40:23 PM »
So the Fedorov Avtomat was the granddaddy of the Stg44 which is the granddaddy of the AK-47 which is the granddaddy of almost all modern assault rifles. Did i get it right?
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2011, 01:06:52 PM »
I did not know where write so has wrote here. Has Seen on picture tank IS-3. This mistake. The First party these tank was released at the last days of the war in 1945 and participation in battles he did not take. He never met with german. Never!
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Re: WW2 Warfare Discussion thread
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2011, 05:22:38 AM »
Who cares. They are great Ingame
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