Thx comrade, SE doct is usually considered UP. the majority of players like luft. although that whirble was a poor choice. he rushed so fast it seems he may have overstepped his supply. good observation SE woulda helpedmaybe I'm getting soft or something, but his level of play surprised meI know you were looking for some tips for fighting PE did this help any? Looking back I would've done a few things differently here. Like not built ANY TH squads at all, but in the heat of battle who has time to think so clearly? those tank hunters really let me down, only thing they did was help kill a panther. and by then the game was over more or less