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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #195 on: August 03, 2011, 12:00:04 PM »
Not really. 4VPs only turn stale on maps with too few crossings and destructible bridges. 3VPs would have to favour one team on this map because of it's design. With the North VP moved to the townhouses, it'd be foolish to block the 2p left island anyway. Either way, good players will be aggressive and push over. A few chokepoints shouldn't actually stop anyone too easily unless the bridges are actually destructible, which they're not.

I really don't like infantry bridges. They're blocked by a single tank trap and have far too little health. They make for bad gameplay IMO. I'd rather the small wooden bridge that is still crossable by tanks or a shallow river crossing. I think the locations here (in blue) need additional crossings (shallow river/frozen river crossings would be best IMO) and the location in green should be a small wooden bridge (found on best/hochwald, wide enough for tanks) or a metal infantry bridge rather than a wooden infantry bridge:

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Silly me... The river near the castle IS crossable XD.
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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #196 on: August 03, 2011, 12:23:09 PM »
What the hell!?! I can not play this map. Now CoH see map, but when i try play it, everytime is crash. I changed graphic, crash. I changed graphic to very low (everything low), crash. I cleaned my PC, still crash. Any ideas what should i do?

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #197 on: August 03, 2011, 01:13:30 PM »
Are you trying to run it in vCoH? Maybe it has EF specific textures/units?
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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #198 on: August 03, 2011, 01:32:05 PM »
Your suggestions look very interesting, Dennis and I actually think they're worth being implemented. In our testing sessions, we had the problem of not a whole big combat but two fronts, a major one at the main land and a minor one for the hill on the left side.
Adding a bridge in the middle would be pretty good, I'll make the middle bridge an indestructible and leave the outer as they are, only the second and forth bridge will be destructed in the beginning.
I will have to have a closer look at the sector layout too.
If somebody is in for testing these changes in the evening that would be nice.

What the hell!?! I can not play this map. Now CoH see map, but when i try play it, everytime is crash. I changed graphic, crash. I changed graphic to very low (everything low), crash. I cleaned my PC, still crash. Any ideas what should i do?
Does somebody else have the same problem?

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #199 on: August 03, 2011, 02:17:08 PM »
If anyone from the previous team is busy I'll gladly help test in their place.
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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #200 on: August 03, 2011, 02:38:39 PM »
If anyone from the previous team is busy I'll gladly help test in their place.
Sure, there will be a place for you. I don't think there's a 'team' anymore cause it's open beta now.

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #201 on: August 03, 2011, 02:51:23 PM »
Good idea with those bridges. And Dennis has also great idea for sector layout, as for the town didn't saw fighting at all ( well, maybe little KV-2).

Also I like idea of 4 VPs. That was my first idea in the past.

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #202 on: August 03, 2011, 02:52:10 PM »
Looks better, probably be a little less effective sitting in negative cover defending that VP, although I have to admit my defence there was pretty resilient given the beating you gave me with that goddamn Howitzer :P

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #203 on: August 03, 2011, 02:55:25 PM »
... GoW annihilated everything you had there, Burro  :-\

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #204 on: August 03, 2011, 02:55:50 PM »
I have to admit my defence there was pretty resilient given the beating you gave me with that goddamn Howitzer :P

That was not only mine, both Cranial and Killar had also one pounding the shit out of your bunkers  ;)

... GoW annihilated everything you had there, Burro  :-\
plus that.

Burro are you in for testing this evening, let's say at 10:00 forum time? Until then the sector layout should be done too.

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #205 on: August 03, 2011, 03:00:15 PM »
I'm out today, so don't count me  :(

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #206 on: August 03, 2011, 03:01:55 PM »
I'll be free then so I don't see why not.

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #207 on: August 03, 2011, 03:07:39 PM »
Looks way better now with that new bridge.

Will Dennis sector layout be used?

Im in for testing  8)

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #208 on: August 03, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »
Currently I have to versions, one is the result of yersterdays testing and the other one the experimental with Dennis' sector layout and the changes to the bridges. Plus we will need a new loading screen now because the hill has changed a lot.

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Re: Kalach (3v3)
« Reply #209 on: August 03, 2011, 03:14:42 PM »
Leave the loading screen. It's awesome!