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Offline irik

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Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« on: August 30, 2011, 06:13:16 PM »
Ingenery (unupgraded) are horrible at fighting. To me, they're only good at capping and building. I'll admit it, they're not bad at fighting pioneers. After Sturmovie Ingenery upgrade, I think unupgraded Ingenery can use satchel charges and get flamethrower upgrades. I remember a match, one of my Ingenery squads got veterancy. But, they suck. What the crap does veterancy do to Ingenery?
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 07:15:32 PM »
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 07:19:26 PM by Paciat »
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 07:32:31 PM »
Combining the stuff found by Paciat and the recent changes... we got this ;D:

Ingenery Veterancy
 - Veterancy 1: Armour changed to Airborne
 - Veterancy 2: 1.2 accuracy modifier
 - Veterancy 2: 0.75 cooldown modifier
 - Veterancy 3: 1.2 Damage modifier

Plus they get +10HP when Sturmovies are researched and another +10HP when Street Fighting is purchased.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 08:35:46 PM »
Giving them a total hp of (drum roll please) - tap tap tap tap:

How much hp do ingenry normal have :P?
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 08:41:13 PM »
30 per man  ;)
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 08:51:45 PM »
Using my rudimentary math skills :P

30= Regular engineer
30+10= 40 = Sturm engineer
30+10+10= 50 = Street Sturm engineer

Hooray ;D
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 09:04:32 PM »
Quote from: Fishhunterx on August 30, 2011, 08:51:45 PM
Using my rudimentary math skills :P

30= Regular engineer
30+10= 40 = Sturm engineer
30+10+10= 50 = Street Sturm engineer

Hooray ;D

A+

Could have said earlier that sturmovie have 40 HP.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 10:02:13 PM »
Quote from: Fishhunterx on August 30, 2011, 08:35:46 PM
Giving them a total hp of (drum roll please) - tap tap tap tap:

How much hp do ingenry normal have :P?
lol
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 10:10:47 PM »
Quote from: MaxiKing6 on August 30, 2011, 09:04:32 PM
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Could have said earlier that sturmovie have 40 HP.
Do not confuse Ingenery with Sturmovie Ingenery, both are different units.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 10:16:15 PM »
Oh I'm sorry, I overlooked that it was about upgraded ingenery.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 05:34:38 AM »
If sturm engineers have so little health (40hp) how are they able to rush assault grenaders and still be victorious ???. What is their armor? Elite?
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 05:42:53 AM »
Quote from: Fishhunterx on August 31, 2011, 05:34:38 AM
If sturm engineers have so little health (40hp) how are they able to rush assault grenaders and still be victorious ???. What is their armor? Elite?

They have their own armor type that's fairly protective, much based off of the Solider Armor IIRC but toned down to match a more balanced perspective and to make sure their suppression values are in line. In 1.4 they could charge 2 MGs at once and receive no suppression.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 06:04:25 AM by Cranialwizard »
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 06:03:39 AM »
Sturmovie actually now have 80hp per man IIRC and their armour type is based off soldier. The rest of what Cranial said is correct.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 06:07:14 AM »
Which armor did they have in 1.4? Wasn't it elite? I knew we tweaked with Solider Armor a bit to create "Sturmovie Armor" but I could swear they had elite values in 1.4.

Was a type error on my part, it's kind of late and I've been in rushes recently with work + school.
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Re: Does veterancy help Ingenery at all?
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 06:16:26 AM »
They used to have infantry armour IIRC, but had bonus on penetration modifiers (usually used at tanks).
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