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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2011, 04:44:18 AM »
TA already has the Crack Shot ability that grants extra range (70) and damages engines. Nothing else will be added.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2011, 12:53:21 PM »
TA already has the Crack Shot ability

I never knew that ???. Was that recently added or was it there b4 cause when I used te TA I didn't see crack shot ??? Gitch?

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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2011, 01:11:25 PM »
I'm fairly sure we put it in for 1.5. It received further improvements for 1.6.

Crack shot is a 70 range ability that damages engines and has high penetration. It allows it to compete with the opposing 1-timer, the IS-3.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2011, 01:36:50 PM »
Could you spill the beans on the improvements?
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2011, 01:42:49 PM »
Well, in 1.5 there is a bug so that Crack shot has very low penetration and actually does LESS damage than a normal shell. It is also more difficult to use because the aim times aren't as fluid. These were corrected in 1.6.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2011, 01:44:20 PM »
Good. I used to wonder why it was so crappy.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2011, 08:30:02 PM »
now Tankbuster can bust more tanks!


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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2011, 11:04:13 PM »
now Tankbuster can bust more tanks!

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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2011, 08:01:02 AM »
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 08:20:15 AM »

Has the tiger ace been tested in the context of the "beloved" old brit faction?  I'm wondering because by the grace of its ridiculously lumbering speed, fireflies will fend off a King tiger, at least keeping it at bay, and there is plenty of time to react to a kt on the field, getting out a second firefly as needed.. my experience against this bastard is that it can just blitz in and make scrap out of my only tank that can hurt it, and then have free reign to do whatever it wants. 

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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 08:51:06 AM »
It has a little over half the health of a KT. Fireflies will always penetrate and kill it very quickly. Against anything less than a Firefly or 17lber though, the TA will dominate the field.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 01:18:21 PM »
Actually, with a bit of micro you can dominate the Firefly. The comet has no chance against it.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2012, 05:57:06 PM »

I thought it hat 1500 to the KT's 2000 hp, is that not right?

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I see,  the updated version will only have 1300 hp.  Am I right in reading that its armor type is higher than the KT?  Does tiger armor x .9 mean less than a standard tiger?  The armor value is another area where I think this should take a bit of a hit...and I'm really interested in seeing what happens when it also gets its special range shot. 

As to the fireflies dealing with it...you mean fireflies plural obviously, which is just hard to have on the ready against a very agressive gren strat, because those puppies are a huge cost sink until that tank hits the field.  Is the tiger ace the same cost of 500 upfront and then a drain over time?  If that is the way it works, I don't think it reflects it's immediate shock value.  The KT is a force of slow domination, and a slow drain makes sense to me.  Tiger ace should pay upfront in my opinion.

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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2012, 12:35:09 AM »
No, that's not how the armour works in CoH. When I say x0.9, that is the modifier to penetration vs for enemy weapons. So say a 17lber has 100% penetration vs Tiger, it now has a 90% chance vs the TA. *Example only

King Tiger armour is better than the TA. The ace will have the same drain as KT, Jagd and IS-3.
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Re: Tiger Ace
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2012, 03:03:40 PM »
The Tiger Ace is most effective vs. American and British units, against the stronger soviet tanks the King Tiger performs better due to having superior armour . However, it depends a lot on your playstyle. If you can utilize its speed advantage somehow by hunting down enemy tanks or flanking AT-Guns it's definately a good choice.

King Tiger is for spearheading a frontal assault to soak up damage, while the Ace is better at causing chaos in the enemy frontlines during an assault by attacking, retreating once the enemy notices and then attacking from a different angle again.

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