Ostheer Doctrines (kingtiger)

[aviso]

I know! the osther could call the finnish elite units (the Jalkavaki)or the hungarian elite units (the puskas). for the rumanians, they could call calvary ? I don't know any rumanian elite unit

it's an example

[kitekatus]

yeah call in finnish ski troops would be awesome -4 guys armed wih suomi m31 machine guns (could use te ppsh 41 model) , and ability to move fast even when camouflage is activated.but giving a whole doctrine to one nation..i dont like that idea. almost forgot got one other idea what is about making something like combat medics ill equiped guys  only with pistols and ability to throw grenades but they could heal guys near them like medic station for brits and americans  .

[aviso]

or armed with a mosin nagant sniper! like the britisch infantry section but u dont have to pay to shot, as if it were a Yankee or German sniper with other soldiers armed with suomi m31 and normal mosin nagant.

if I can't explain either, i will explain of other form

[Ghost]

ok, so we have a finsh unit:
"Jalkavaki" (assault infantry), 3 men, armed with smgs and grenades, have camo ability, on vet 2 they can run while cloaked, on vet 3 they can purchase "veteran sharpshooter" upgrade, replacing one soldier with a sniper (medium range).

some (more detailed ) ideas about a romanian and hungarian unit?

about calvary: well, i now that some actually fought in the WWII but i don't think they could fit into CoH 

[aviso]

hungarian puskas: 5 men armed with mosin nagant x3, tokarev pistol x1 and MP40 or beretta MP38 x1.  Upgrades: MG34 or MG42. Habilities: AT Grenade, Hand Grenade and camoflauge.
finnish Jalkaväki: 5 men armed with mosin nagant x3 and PPSH41 x2. Upgrades: Lati Saloranta M26 x2(modified MP44). Habilities: camouglafe, panzerfaust and hand grenade.
romanian heavy mortar: 6 men armed with kar98 x2 and tokarev pistol x1, the other three soldiers are the operators of heavy mortar.  Upgrades: increased distance bombing. Habilities: bombarment, defensive barrage and smoke.

[kitekatus]

ok, so we have a finsh unit:
"Jalkavaki" (assault infantry), 3 men, armed with smgs and grenades, have camo ability, on vet 2 they can run while cloaked, on vet 3 they can purchase "veteran sharpshooter" upgrade, replacing one soldier with a sniper (medium range).

some (more detailed ) ideas about a romanian and hungarian unit?

about calvary: well, i now that some actually fought in the WWII but i don't think they could fit into CoH 

about those "Jalkavaki" guys if they will be put in the game they shoud have moltow cocktails too and on vet 3 maybe they could choose between snarpshooter and guy with Lahti-Saloranta M/26(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti-Saloranta_M/26) just tninked of taht they could yell "perkele!" when attacking.  about calvary,i think it would be too hard for me to kill horses ,i hate violance aginst animals.

[aviso]

and the romanian hevay mortar team?

[BurroDiablo]

I really like the Idea of the Doctrines being the different Army Groups... 3 Armies - 3 Doctrines... how perfect is that? Almost like Hitler is helping us.

@ Aviso - Thats much more like it, I wouldn't mind seeing something like those in game.

[aviso]

the doctrines of the Ostheer:   
-Nord Ostheer, with the finnish allied forces (Jalkaväki and Stug III help u to anihilate the URSS)
-Center Ostheer, with the hungarian allied forces (Puskás and Toldi Light tank help u......)
and -South Ostheer, with the rumanian allied forces (hevay mortar team and R-2 help u .......)

its an example

[kitekatus]

one thing i dont like in kingtiger nord osth.  doctrine is that they wouldnt have defences cuz in the war army group nord fighted very well in defense take for example courland pocket.

[aviso]

I dont understand what u mean?
u say that finns have to be more defensives? or what?  I dont understand

[kitekatus]

I dont understand what u mean?
u say that finns have to be more defensives? or what?  I dont understand

im actualy not talking about finns but about the whole Heeresgruppe Nord doctrine "-disadvantages: no heavy tanks, no AT-infantry, no defenses" 

[aviso]

the finns, for example, can build trenches, MG bunkers and also can be upgraded with Lathi AT rifles... heavy tanks with the Stug III, captured T-34 and captured KV-1

[Ghost]

everyone could defend, but the idea about it is to create three army groups all focused and specialized on a unique concept:

north focused on assault and fast units, so no defences, perfect for an aggressive playing style

center focused  on defences and heavy units, for players who like to dig-in and later on attack the enemy with heavy tanks and infantry, defences will need population so you can choose from many heavy units but can't build all of them

south focused on urban combat with light defenses, perfectly suited to urban maps and players who like to use specialized infantry

so i think you can choose an army for every situation, map or playing style AND it is the combination of the army groups that makes the difference 

ps: about the romanian heavy mortar team, they already have a heavy mortar team...and i guess there are many people who want to see captured T34 tanks on the Ostheer

[aviso]

the finns where very defensives (the mannerheim line) and they also can call stugs III and captured T-34 or KV-1 to help the defensives line.