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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2012, 06:52:31 AM »
Giving PE a regular Panzer IV to replace stubby would not only screw with balance but it would make little stubby sad :(. History is nice but balance is nicer :P. I could argue why I think so but I'd rather just leave it at this.

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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2012, 10:54:26 AM »
Giving PE a regular Panzer IV to replace stubby would not only screw with balance but it would make little stubby sad

and is 10000% nothing we can discuss
there will never be such a vanilla change

also we have atm no plans to add more reward units

History is nice but balance is nicer

haha i realy like this XD
so yes maybe its history but history and realism has nothing to do with balance and gamedesign
panzer IV will 100% no normal OH unit and 100% not a reward unit of one of the ohter tanks

and wouldnt it be a bit boring if all axis units would use the PIV as main battle tank?



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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2012, 07:04:00 PM »
As much as I would like to see a regular Pz4 in the PE forces, There are so many AT units that there's no point from a gameplay stance.
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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2012, 01:33:09 AM »
As much as I would like to see a regular Pz4 in the PE forces, There are so many AT units that there's no point from a gameplay stance.
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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2012, 10:18:33 PM »
There is no point having different factions if they have the same units. The idea of mirror factions is long dead. You play each faction because its units are unique and different from the others.

In hind sight(and if it was up to me), because of the wealth of axis vehicles, I would have made sure that no unit from WH/PE would have been present in Ostheer with (perhaps) the exception of the Panther.

I'd rather avoid the feeling of 'been there/seen that/used it before/ no real novelty. It also avoids the inevitable comparison like PE panther vs WH Panther exact same tank but which one is better value for money? Why is that better? Buff the other one to be on a par as its the same tank etc...

Anyways folks, PzIV won't make a 3rd appearance in Ostheer unlike the Panther  ;)
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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2012, 10:45:10 PM »
It also avoids the inevitable comparison like PE panther vs WH Panther exact same tank but which one is better value for money? Why is that better? Buff the other one to be on a par as its the same tank etc...

I agree with this statement :P. People are always saying "Oh PE panthers are so much better, more cost efficient, etc"

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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2012, 10:46:36 PM »
Well OH has a tiger tank and maybe a KT. Also Schwimm and Kübel aren´t so different too.

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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2012, 10:58:34 PM »
Well OH has a tiger tank and maybe a KT. Also Schwimm and Kübel aren´t so different too.

all are different versions

so wehrmacht has early tiger, ostheer tiger late
wehrmacht has porsche kingtiger, ostheer henschel kingtiger



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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2012, 11:07:46 PM »
Well OH has a tiger tank and maybe a KT. Also Schwimm and Kübel aren´t so different too.

all are different versions

so wehrmacht has early tiger, ostheer tiger late
wehrmacht has porsche kingtiger, ostheer henschel kingtiger

May I inquire what the difference between a porsche and henschel king tiger is ???? Cause I honestly don't know

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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2012, 11:21:47 PM »
[...]May I inquire what the difference between a porsche and henschel king tiger is ???? Cause I honestly don't know
they had a different turret:
-porsche version(50)
-henschel version(>430)

both turrets had different armor stats and designs (henschel turret was better design) and different ammo storage capacities.
henschel version was the far more common and serial production version, while  the porsche turrets were used for the first 50 tanks b/c of lacking enough henschel turrets at that time.

about panthers:
OH will have G version, which has a different hull design and armor stats.
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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2012, 11:41:28 PM »
Well OH has a tiger tank and maybe a KT. Also Schwimm and Kübel aren´t so different too.

all are different versions

so wehrmacht has early tiger, ostheer tiger late
wehrmacht has porsche kingtiger, ostheer henschel kingtiger

That doesnt matter. OH tiger will have the same role as a Wehr tiger (heavy doctrinal tank) just like the Kübel will have the same role as a Schwimm (scout unit).

Besides the wehr tiger is not a early version ;) looks more like a middle production.


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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2012, 12:07:51 AM »
Well OH has a tiger tank and maybe a KT. Also Schwimm and Kübel aren´t so different too.

all are different versions

so wehrmacht has early tiger, ostheer tiger late
wehrmacht has porsche kingtiger, ostheer henschel kingtiger

That doesnt matter. OH tiger will have the same role as a Wehr tiger (heavy doctrinal tank) just like the Kübel will have the same role as a Schwimm (scout unit).

Besides the wehr tiger is not a early version ;) looks more like a middle production.

Let's not start this argument again...
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Re: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2012, 04:30:02 AM »
Thread title: Panzer IV as a reward unit?
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